Chicago Bears offseason

[WrigleyField 22]

Traded up for David Montgomery.

 

Looking for details of trade.

[minnesotacubsfan]

how is Montgomery?

[WrigleyField 22]

87(3rd), 162(5th), and a 4th in 2020.

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how is Montgomery?

 

Not just saying this because he's a Bear but he was my favorite RB in this draft. Jacobs was the best, but I had Montgomery as the 39th best player and Jacobs at 36, so it was close IMO. But Montgomery is a Kareem Hunt clone, but with flawless character.

 

Toughest runner in the draft, PFF record 99 broken tackles in 2017 (I believe). Averaged like 3.5 after contact this year. Really good hands. Best pass blocking RB in the draft. He's not a great route runner, but a guy that can create space at the catch point and will break tackles once he's in the secondary.

[jersey cubs fan]

Huge price for a guy from Iowa State

[WrigleyField 22]

Huge price for a guy from Iowa State

Gar's fingerprints are all over this pick IMO.

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87(3rd), 162(5th), and a 4th in 2020.

 

Bears got a 6th back from NE. That's probably going to be a kicker.

[WrigleyField 22]

87(3rd), 162(5th), and a 4th in 2020.

 

Bears got a 6th back from NE. That's probably going to be a kicker.

That actually makes me feel better (not the K part). Hate 3 for 1 trades once you get to the middle rounds.

[minnesotacubsfan]

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Huge price for a guy from Iowa State

 

you've spent waaaaaaaaaaay too much time on the east coast

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Alright, 3rd round about to start. Big board for the Bears:

 

1. Chauncey Gardner-Johnson, S Florida

2 Darrell Henderson, RB Memphis

[highlight=yellow]3. David Montgomery, RB Iowa St[/highlight]

4. Jace Sternberger, TE Texas A&M

5. Justin Layne, CB Michigan St

6. Juan Thornhill, S Virginia

7. Emanuel Hall, WR Missouri

8. Maxx Crosby, Edge, Eastern Michigan

9. Nate Davis, G/OT Charlotte

10. Amani Oruwariye, CB Penn State

11. Terry McLaurin, WR Ohio State

12. Oshane Ximines, Edge Old Dominion

13. Julian Love, CB Notre Dame

 

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Christian Miller, Edge Alabama

Kahale Warring, TE San Diego State

Amani Hooker, S Iowa

Dawson Knox, TE Mississippi

Jamel Dean, CB Auburn

Yodny Cajuste, OT West Virginia (torn ACL)

Sheldrick Redwine, S Miami

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[Bertz]

I feel like the Bears gave up horrendous value to move up 15 picks in the third round, but not necessarily horrendous value for Montgomery? Matt Miller (@nfldraftscout) had him as a second rounder and his #2 RB.

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Third round was always gonna be a RB. If you look at the 2 deep depth chart, it was the position that had the biggest "need".

 

All 11 starters were back on O, except Howard. Davis was an insurance plan. Only lost players on D were replaced by Clinton Dix and Skrine, their 2 biggest money FAs.

 

So now today the Bears have the luxury of truly taking the best player available.

 

With the 4th being the only pick they have right now of a guy who will for sure make the roster, the Bears will try to get a steal. They probably aren't picking a WR, unless it's a deep threat. But in general, I see this pick focusing on the best athlete they can find.

 

Pass rusher and defensive back, being the most likely. Of the guys they worked out or hosted, watch for Maxx Crosby, Christian Miller, Jimmy Moreland or Amani Hooker.

 

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I feel like the Bears gave up horrendous value to move up 15 picks in the third round, but not necessarily horrendous value for Montgomery? Matt Miller (@nfldraftscout) had him as a second rounder and his #2 RB.

I don't know if it was *horrendous*

 

3 for 2 or 2 for 1 swaps in the mid rounds are probably bad value propositions in the mid rounds on a macro level. It's not great process driven drafting... Probably. At the end of the day you are trading for a player though, not a draft slot. Even if all you get from Montgomery is 4 years of good RB play on rookie value contract it's probably a good deal. We don't know how he was valued by the Bears. If he had a mid 2nd grade on him you can kind of work yourself into logic that it's slightly better value that it looks like on paper.

 

FYI the traditional trade value chart seems to line up, so it seem relatively market value, though I tend to think that chart generally speaking values those mid round picks too far apart.

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Guess is jimmy moreland, CB, james madison

[WrigleyField 22]

With the 4th being the only pick they have right now of a guy who will for sure make the roster, the Bears will try to get a steal. They probably aren't picking a WR, unless it's a deep threat. But in general, I see this pick focusing on the best athlete they can find.

 

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Couldn't follow up on your good call last night. :)

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Riley Ridley. He's an interesting choice. May have been a BPA type of pick. I know the Bears tried to trade up late 1 last year for Calvin Ridley, so makes sens that they like his brother.

 

I didn't think he'd be an option, since he's very similar as a WR to Anthony Miller. Good route runner, with good-to-great hands, not game breaking speed. With Robinson, Miller and Gabriel, I thought they'd go for more of a deep threat.

 

WR room is now loaded. Robinson, Miller, Gabriel, Ridley, Wims, Patterson (may be more of a RB), and Marvin Hall (who is a deep threat).

[WrigleyField 22]

Yep, crowded room for sure.

 

If you start to blend the versatile positionless guys, like Cohen and Patterson, those 7 plus Cohen, Montgomery, and Davis just about reaches the upper limit of skill position players you might keep (plus 4 TE/FB) (then add 8 OL, and 2-3 QB and that's your offense.

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Top options on the board for the Bears (no order):

 

OLB De'Andre Walker, Georgia (because Chicago is apparently UGA north)

OT Oli Udoh, Elon

OLB Joe Jackson, Miami

CB Jimmy Moreland, James Madison

OG Beau Benzschwagel

TE Alize Mack, Notre Dame

CB Xavier Crawford, Western Michigan

CB Saivion Smith, Alabama

CB Mark Fields, Clemson

[Butterscup]

 

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Never heard of Shelley. Doesn't have a grade on NFL.com. His highlights are nice (as they should be since they are highlights). Seems to be a click-and-close type of CB. Not a man coverage guy, but an off-man or zone guy who attacks downhill when he sees the QBs eyes. Has shown some ball skills as well. 8 career INTs, and the 4-5 I saw on highlights were all pretty spectacular.

 

If you squint, you can see a player similar to what Bryce Callahan was as a UDFA 4 years ago. Going to be quite the project though. Probably going to be a last man on the roster type of guy, or a practice squad candidate while he learns the nickel role and puts on weight on his 173 lb frame. Seems like a player they didn't really have to draft, but this late, they didn't want to have competition for him. It's whatever

[David]

It's a little disingenuous but it's still cool

 

https://twitter.com/RobertZeglinski/status/1122237238253948928

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Heard of Kerrith Whyte, college backup RB. Extremely fast. Maybe some long term potential to replace Patterson as the kick returner. He's basically fighting with Mizzell for the 4th RB spot. Again an end of the roster guy. Never be more than a 3rd RB on this team. Strange pick, but I knew the Bears liked him (1/30 visit) and I knew there was a strong chance they'd double up at RB in this draft.

[UMFan83]

Bears going back to the small college well with their last pick, a CB out of Valdosta State