FREE DA JERSEY - Week 15 Bears @ Lions, Saturday Afternoon for some reason 3:30 PM CT, NFL-N

[biittner77]

i think the case is reasonably in favor of keeping him, but would not be upset if he was replaced. If you did replace him, then Mitchell becomes somebody else's problem, and the next guy will be allowed to start from scratch at qb again in 2-3 years. Pace has his guy and should get one shot to win in 2018. There's no excuse for this team to be this weak and bereft of talent this far into his tenure. This isn't baseball when it takes 4-6 years to develop prospects. The NFL allows for yearly roster turnover and three years in this is entirely Pace's team. This isn't Emerys fault anymore.

 

Fwiw, I think Pace will be back. I can't imagine year 4 being that much of an improvement to where you can justify bringing him back for off-season #5. It is disappointing that Mitchell's 1st two years of a cost controlled rookie contract will consist of a lame duck coach in year 1 and a lame duck GM in year 2.

 

I have no reason to be confident in Pace turning this thing around after 3 bad years and an already failed coaching staff his 1st time through.

If Mitch is any good, they should at least contend for playoff position in 2018. Probably won't go from 4-12 to 10-6, but at least flirt with 9-7 and show actual improvement. If they can't manage that, then he's gotta be gone.

 

Would better play calling and actual wide receivers be enough to change 4-12 to 10-6? I'd say yes. That happens in the NFL all the time. This year's Rams for example.

[David]

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[jersey cubs fan]

Would better play calling and actual wide receivers be enough to change 4-12 to 10-6? I'd say yes. That happens in the NFL all the time. This year's Rams for example.

 

It could and maybe it should, but it probably won't. The point is I wouldn't put 10-6 as a bare minimum for Pace to return. If they improve to 9-7 next year, or even 8-8, and Trubisky takes a step forward, then bringing in a new GM after all that leaves you in another lame duck coach/QB situation. The new GM will then get a few years to evaluate both Mitch and whoever Pace hires this offseason, then after 2 years he can clean house and start fresh from there. I don't really like that idea.

[minnesotacubsfan]

Would better play calling and actual wide receivers be enough to change 4-12 to 10-6? I'd say yes. That happens in the NFL all the time. This year's Rams for example.

 

It could and maybe it should, but it probably won't. The point is I wouldn't put 10-6 as a bare minimum for Pace to return. If they improve to 9-7 next year, or even 8-8, and Trubisky takes a step forward, then bringing in a new GM after all that leaves you in another lame duck coach/QB situation. The new GM will then get a few years to evaluate both Mitch and whoever Pace hires this offseason, then after 2 years he can clean house and start fresh from there. I don't really like that idea.

 

Trubisky taking a step forward will depend on the wr position and better coaching. If he gets that and the defense stays healthy, theres enough talent to be at 9-7. If the get lucky a few games, i could see that team get to 11-5.

 

But with likely coach turnover i could just as easily see a 5-7 win team. Then what do you do? Dump Pace to leave an unwanted coaching staff for a new GM? I think Pace will get 2 more years.

[jersey cubs fan]

Would better play calling and actual wide receivers be enough to change 4-12 to 10-6? I'd say yes. That happens in the NFL all the time. This year's Rams for example.

 

It could and maybe it should, but it probably won't. The point is I wouldn't put 10-6 as a bare minimum for Pace to return. If they improve to 9-7 next year, or even 8-8, and Trubisky takes a step forward, then bringing in a new GM after all that leaves you in another lame duck coach/QB situation. The new GM will then get a few years to evaluate both Mitch and whoever Pace hires this offseason, then after 2 years he can clean house and start fresh from there. I don't really like that idea.

 

Trubisky taking a step forward will depend on the wr position and better coaching. If he gets that and the defense stays healthy, theres enough talent to be at 9-7. If the get lucky a few games, i could see that team get to 11-5.

 

But with likely coach turnover i could just as easily see a 5-7 win team. Then what do you do? Dump Pace to leave an unwanted coaching staff for a new GM? I think Pace will get 2 more years.

 

At this point, I'd give Pace a 2 year extension (taking him through 2021), so that when he goes out and recruits a head coach he can point to the stability and get whomever he wants.

 

Ownership then evaluates 2018/2019 and either moves forward with the Mitch/New Coach/Pace trio, or cleans house.

[minnesotacubsfan]

Maybe well have new ownership by then. One can dream.

 

In other news, Rodgers looked like crap yesterday. Maybe thats a trend.

[UMFan83]

[jersey cubs fan]

john fox loves to argue

 

[minnesotacubsfan]

john fox loves to argue

 

 

 

Jersey you’re inciting a fools errand

[David]

a couple of good mitch plays from the bears' propaganda dept

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tuxc3D2Mnjs