Bears offseason

[David]

the bears have to be pretty damn happy with how titillated the chicago media is with the new king

 

just wait til we have training camp tweets

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http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-mitch-trubisky-coach-north-carolina-spt-0503-20170502-story.html

 

This is a good read as well (don't miss the other one on the bottom of the previous page)

 

To me, that's hard to teach. I think either you are or you're not. Obviously, there are some fundamental things you can correct as far as foot placement, body position and arm slot to try to create as consistent a release point as you possibly can. But as quarterbacks go, some guys can just put it where they want to put it all the time, and some guys can't. That's one of the things Mitch has really been blessed with. He's the most accurate quarterback I've ever been around.

 

It's something that we've seen every day since he was a freshman. That was one of the things that stood out the moment he walked on campus and walked out for his first practice. "Man, this kid is pretty accurate." We'd go days in practice where he'd throw one incompletion or one ball where it was an overthrow or a missed throw. Everybody would be looking around going, "Dang, what's wrong with Mitch today?" And I'd be like, "Guys! That's one throw! Every other one has been right on the money all practice long!" But that's the environment, the atmosphere that Mitch created because of what he did on a consistent basis. It just became what people expected from him because they were so used to it.

 

 

How did you see his accuracy shine in games? How did his accuracy change games for you?

 

Throws that some guys look at as being covered, his ball placement allowed guys to be open. Things of that nature. When you can put it where you want it, the windows can be a lot smaller, and you can still get the ball in there. Guys that are inaccurate, that means (receivers) have to be wide open for them to complete passes. That ability to put it where you want it, to be able to control it, allows you to throw into tighter windows, into smaller spaces, and do it with the confidence and consistency you need to be an effective passer. That's one thing that Mitch does really well, one of his main talents.

 

What do you sense in how he trusts his arm? And how does that trust show on the field?

 

You see it more in the man-to-man coverage stuff where a guy is on (the receiver), a guy is running with him. Not only the trust in his velocity and arm talent as far as how fast he can get it there, but also the ability to control where he puts it. He'll throw guys open, as opposed to guys having to get open for him to make throws. That's a big difference.

 

That's such a big deal at the NFL level too.

 

People ask all the time: What are some things that translate in his game? Why is he so highly rated in the eyes of the NFL scouts and evaluators? To me, it's two things that stick out. One, his accuracy and ability to throw the football consistently. Two, how fast he's able to process information. To me, those two things will serve him well as he makes his transition.

Thanks

 

At some point in the offseason I began flirting with Trubisky as my top QB prospect before reverting back to Watson, but I really cant kick the feeling I'm just fighting with my inner meatball and Trubisky is the clear better prospect and I should be as excited for Trubisky as I would have been for Watson.

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the bears have to be pretty damn happy with how titillated the chicago media is with the new king

 

just wait til we have training camp tweets

The first Glennon TC pick is gonna explode on twitter.

[jersey cubs fan]

At some point in the offseason I began flirting with Trubisky as my top QB prospect before reverting back to Watson, but I really cant kick the feeling I'm just fighting with my inner meatball and Trubisky is the clear better prospect and I should be as excited for Trubisky as I would have been for Watson.

 

I had a vague sense of liking Trubisky after reading about him going back a couple months and am perfectly happy with him going forward. I remain highly skeptical of Pace's ability to surround Trubisky with a good team, which is how Seattle and Dallas helped their young guys succeed so early. And I really don't think Fox is the right head coach to develop the guy. I'm just going to treat 2017 as no expectations, expect fun bad (holy crap if butt fumble plays a lot, can you imagine?). Will Fox go off script and demand Mitch play early on at the first sign of Glennon being Glennon? Everybody is playing nice now, but there is high probability of things getting ugly between Pace, Fox, Dowell, Glennon and Trubisky and this doesn't even take into account the potential for offense vs defense mutiny. I'd put my money on Vic surviving that battle.

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At some point in the offseason I began flirting with Trubisky as my top QB prospect before reverting back to Watson, but I really cant kick the feeling I'm just fighting with my inner meatball and Trubisky is the clear better prospect and I should be as excited for Trubisky as I would have been for Watson.

 

I had a vague sense of liking Trubisky after reading about him going back a couple months and am perfectly happy with him going forward. I remain highly skeptical of Pace's ability to surround Trubisky with a good team, which is how Seattle and Dallas helped their young guys succeed so early. And I really don't think Fox is the right head coach to develop the guy. I'm just going to treat 2017 as no expectations, expect fun bad (holy crap if butt fumble plays a lot, can you imagine?). Will Fox go off script and demand Mitch play early on at the first sign of Glennon being Glennon? Everybody is playing nice now, but there is high probability of things getting ugly between Pace, Fox, Dowell, Glennon and Trubisky and this doesn't even take into account the potential for offense vs defense mutiny. I'd put my money on Vic surviving that battle.

Yea, low expectations is definitely true. And I get sunday tickey free this fall, so I'm adopting Houston as my fun-good team (hopefully), and I still get to go all meatball for Watson.

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I know it was just a workout in shorts and whatnot but his performance at the combine was fantastic. Every single throw was on the money, perfect height, hit his receivers in stride. And he looked like he wasn't even trying. He showed great poise under the pressure of the whole process.

 

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[jersey cubs fan]

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Oh man, he's using us just to make the other girl jealous, right?

[David]

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At some point in the offseason I began flirting with Trubisky as my top QB prospect before reverting back to Watson, but I really cant kick the feeling I'm just fighting with my inner meatball and Trubisky is the clear better prospect and I should be as excited for Trubisky as I would have been for Watson.

 

Watson isn't close to a better prospect than Trubisky.

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So I've read a lot of terrible Trubisly articles over the past week, but this one by far takes the cake;

 

https://sports.yahoo.com/news/why-bears-start-trubisky-week-120010187.html

 

If they follow through on their claim they are starting Glennon, the Bears are running a huge risk. Glennon put up pretty good numbers behind an offensive line of Donald Penn, Jamon Meredith, Jeremy Zuttah, Davin Joseph, and Demar Dotson. The current Bears offensive line is a lot better than that, and will only get better when Hroniss Grasu comes back healthy.

 

So what happens if Glennon comes and plays at a Pro-Bowl level? I do not believe that is out of the realm of possibility this season, as I feel the Glennon signing was a beautiful piece of business by the Pace regime. If this happens, the Bears will have a Pro-Bowl level quarterback at a price well below the price of the average starting quarterback.

[UMFan83]

So I've read a lot of terrible Trubisly articles over the past week, but this one by far takes the cake;

 

https://sports.yahoo.com/news/why-bears-start-trubisky-week-120010187.html

 

If they follow through on their claim they are starting Glennon, the Bears are running a huge risk. Glennon put up pretty good numbers behind an offensive line of Donald Penn, Jamon Meredith, Jeremy Zuttah, Davin Joseph, and Demar Dotson. The current Bears offensive line is a lot better than that, and will only get better when Hroniss Grasu comes back healthy.

 

So what happens if Glennon comes and plays at a Pro-Bowl level? I do not believe that is out of the realm of possibility this season, as I feel the Glennon signing was a beautiful piece of business by the Pace regime. If this happens, the Bears will have a Pro-Bowl level quarterback at a price well below the price of the average starting quarterback.

 

Hahaha I love that. "You guys fucked up because you might have acquired 2 good QBs. You bums!"

[jersey cubs fan]

So I've read a lot of terrible Trubisly articles over the past week, but this one by far takes the cake;

 

https://sports.yahoo.com/news/why-bears-start-trubisky-week-120010187.html

 

If they follow through on their claim they are starting Glennon, the Bears are running a huge risk. Glennon put up pretty good numbers behind an offensive line of Donald Penn, Jamon Meredith, Jeremy Zuttah, Davin Joseph, and Demar Dotson. The current Bears offensive line is a lot better than that, and will only get better when Hroniss Grasu comes back healthy.

 

So what happens if Glennon comes and plays at a Pro-Bowl level? I do not believe that is out of the realm of possibility this season, as I feel the Glennon signing was a beautiful piece of business by the Pace regime. If this happens, the Bears will have a Pro-Bowl level quarterback at a price well below the price of the average starting quarterback.

 

The idea that Glennon may play at a pro bowl level is funny enough on its own, but he frames that as the risk of starting Glennon over Trubisky, as if that would somehow be bad.

[jersey cubs fan]

my mind is blown

[minnesotacubsfan]

LOOK AT ALL YHE GOOD THINGS THAT COULD HAPPEN!!! THE HUMANITY

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This is a close second and includes free advice from the journeyman QB you only recognize because his name is a [expletive] herb, but you know nothing else about;

 

http://thebiglead.com/2017/05/03/sage-rosenfels-just-ethered-the-chicago-bears-for-mitchell-trubisky-pick/

 

And the man has a point

A bad point.

 

He’s not wrong.

He's very wrong

 

Again, it’s hard to argue with anything Rosenfels wrote.

Because your jaw is currently on the floor

 

What happens if Glennon does play well and cements himself as the team’s starting signal-caller?

WHY IS THIS A THING?! WHAT IF?!

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Rumors the Chiefs offered the 27, their 2 and 3, and next year's 1 and 2 for the 3rd pick

 

Not gonna lie, if that's true, passing on all that hurts quite a bit.

 

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I love Jay just as he is, but he could only be a good broadcaster if hes been hiding a horsefeathers load of charm the past 11 years. Don't be full of charm. You're total lack of giving a horsefeathers what people think is what makes you endearing.

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I love Jay just as he is, but he could only be a good broadcaster if hes been hiding a horsefeathers load of charm the past 11 years. Don't be full of charm. You're total lack of giving a horsefeathers what people think is what makes you endearing.

 

I disagree. I want to see Jay sneer at a QB's lack of arm strength. "Jesus, really? He can't make THAT throw?" I want to see him laugh at all the dropped passes. Let him throw in some Urlacher hair comments each broadcast. Sneer at his broadcast partner, "You guys are clueless, aren't you?"

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Rumors the Chiefs offered the 27, their 2 and 3, and next year's 1 and 2 for the 3rd pick

 

Not gonna lie, if that's true, passing on all that hurts quite a bit.

 

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Just going off the "traditional" trade chart, that doesnt get close. Represents about 80% value of what it needs to.

 

Based off an analytical model, its like 80% excess value...

 

So analytics say you run with that, but as a market participant you're kind of leaving "easy" value on the table... kind of an intetesting. Personally at that high in the draft, I'd say stick to market values/trends. Use the analytical model to get deals later on.

[davell]

Rumors the Chiefs offered the 27, their 2 and 3, and next year's 1 and 2 for the 3rd pick

 

Not gonna lie, if that's true, passing on all that hurts quite a bit.

 

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Just going off the "traditional" trade chart, that doesnt get close. Represents about 80% value of what it needs to.

 

Based off an analytical model, its like 80% excess value...

 

So analytics say you run with that, but as a market participant you're kind of leaving "easy" value on the table... kind of an intetesting. Personally at that high in the draft, I'd say stick to market values/trends. Use the analytical model to get deals later on.

 

Deal fell apart when Pace asked for Putney.

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I love Jay just as he is, but he could only be a good broadcaster if hes been hiding a horsefeathers load of charm the past 11 years. Don't be full of charm. You're total lack of giving a horsefeathers what people think is what makes you endearing.

 

I disagree. I want to see Jay sneer at a QB's lack of arm strength. "Jesus, really? He can't make THAT throw?" I want to see him laugh at all the dropped passes. Let him throw in some Urlacher hair comments each broadcast. Sneer at his broadcast partner, "You guys are clueless, aren't you?"

Even that much would be too much effort for Jay.

 

"Trubisky drops back rifles a pass over the middle, picked off by Kuechley! Jay, walk us through what happened on that pick"

"He threw the ball to the other team"

"Can you elaborate"

"The other team caught it. Back to you Joe"

"Jay you're not giving us much color here"

"Don't care"

*Smokes cigarette during halftime recap*

 

Thats the only version of Jay I want to see.

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Rumors the Chiefs offered the 27, their 2 and 3, and next year's 1 and 2 for the 3rd pick

 

Not gonna lie, if that's true, passing on all that hurts quite a bit.

 

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Just going off the "traditional" trade chart, that doesnt get close. Represents about 80% value of what it needs to.

 

Based off an analytical model, its like 80% excess value...

 

So analytics say you run with that, but as a market participant you're kind of leaving "easy" value on the table... kind of an intetesting. Personally at that high in the draft, I'd say stick to market values/trends. Use the analytical model to get deals later on.

I realized that as well. But I don't know, how well has that chart held up for the most recent major trade-ups on draft day? Genuinely curious.

 

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[raw]

So I've read a lot of terrible Trubisly articles over the past week, but this one by far takes the cake;

 

https://sports.yahoo.com/news/why-bears-start-trubisky-week-120010187.html

 

If they follow through on their claim they are starting Glennon, the Bears are running a huge risk. Glennon put up pretty good numbers behind an offensive line of Donald Penn, Jamon Meredith, Jeremy Zuttah, Davin Joseph, and Demar Dotson. The current Bears offensive line is a lot better than that, and will only get better when Hroniss Grasu comes back healthy.

 

So what happens if Glennon comes and plays at a Pro-Bowl level? I do not believe that is out of the realm of possibility this season, as I feel the Glennon signing was a beautiful piece of business by the Pace regime. If this happens, the Bears will have a Pro-Bowl level quarterback at a price well below the price of the average starting quarterback.

 

The idea that Glennon may play at a pro bowl level is funny enough on its own, but he frames that as the risk of starting Glennon over Trubisky, as if that would somehow be bad.

 

And Grasu isn't a starter. And the OL isn't "a lot" better than that, it's slightly better if Long stays healthy. Penn was a former pro bowler (2010) who would go on to be a future pro bowler (2016). Joseph was still a very good guard then, before injuries derailed his career, also 2-years removed from a probowl when Glennon got there. Zuttah's also a solid lineman who was also a 2016 pro bowler. Dotson's not great, but he's not bad either.....still the starting RT for Tampa.

 

I hate the narrative that Glennon will be so much better now than he was in Tampa because he had nothing to work with back then. OL isn't much better, if at all. The WRs/TEs aren't much better if at all. He had a prime Vincent Jackson his rookie year and Mike Evans the year after that. Defensive minded head coach with an iffy OC.