Bears offseason

[jersey cubs fan]

I didn't want them to take a Qb at 3, but if they had to, so be it. Actually trading up from 3 was just dumb and no, if it works out it doesn't take away how dumb that move is. Draft picks are valuable commodities and Pace treated his like fake chips at a charity poker event.

 

If Trubisky is a pro bowl QB and Pace identified him as such and someone else was going to leapfrog the Bears to grab him, of course it makes the move a stroke of genius you horsefeathering pecker.

nobody was going to leapfrog them.

 

that point is obvious.

 

in any competitive negotiation the bears had the biggest chip out there in the 3 spot. SF was always going to be more comfortable moving down 1 spot to 3 than trading down several spots to get even lower.

 

And Trubisky would have been there at 3.

[Sammy Sofa]

I didn't want them to take a Qb at 3, but if they had to, so be it. Actually trading up from 3 was just dumb and no, if it works out it doesn't take away how dumb that move is. Draft picks are valuable commodities and Pace treated his like fake chips at a charity poker event.

 

If Trubisky is a pro bowl QB and Pace identified him as such and someone else was going to leapfrog the Bears to grab him, of course it makes the move a stroke of genius you horsefeathering pecker.

nobody was going to leapfrog them.

 

that point is obvious.

 

in any competitive negotiation the bears had the biggest chip out there in the 3 spot. SF was always going to be more comfortable moving down 1 spot to 3 than trading down several spots to get even lower.

 

And Trubisky would have been there at 3.

 

Their crafty strategy:

 

[David]

Pace was on with Mike & Mike

 

http://www.espn.com/espnradio/play?id=19287522

[Guest]

I didn't want them to take a Qb at 3, but if they had to, so be it. Actually trading up from 3 was just dumb and no, if it works out it doesn't take away how dumb that move is. Draft picks are valuable commodities and Pace treated his like fake chips at a charity poker event.

 

If Trubisky is a pro bowl QB and Pace identified him as such and someone else was going to leapfrog the Bears to grab him, of course it makes the move a stroke of genius you horsefeathering pecker.

nobody was going to leapfrog them.

 

that point is obvious.

 

in any competitive negotiation the bears had the biggest chip out there in the 3 spot. SF was always going to be more comfortable moving down 1 spot to 3 than trading down several spots to get even lower.

 

And Trubisky would have been there at 3.

 

SF has several needs and this was a deep draft with many potentially elite players. If the Jets throw in their second rounder this year, it's fairly similar. Same with Cleveland. There isn't much difference between the impact of Jamal Adams and the impact of Solomon Thomas or Lattimore or Hooker.

[Guest]

Pace was on with Mike & Mike

 

http://www.espn.com/espnradio/play?id=19287522

 

Well, sounds like someone was trying to move up to yhe Bears' pick. HOW COULD PACE HAVE KNOWN THAT? I BET IT WAS THAT GODDAMNED ROBERT REDFORD AND PAUL NEWMAN PRETENDING IT WAS A DRAFT BUT IT WAS REALLY JUST THE BASEMENT OF BURT REYNOLDS'S HOUSE

[jersey cubs fan]

Pace was on with Mike & Mike

 

http://www.espn.com/espnradio/play?id=19287522

 

Well, sounds like someone was trying to move up to yhe Bears' pick. HOW COULD PACE HAVE KNOWN THAT? I BET IT WAS THAT GODDAMNED ROBERT REDFORD AND PAUL NEWMAN PRETENDING IT WAS A DRAFT BUT IT WAS REALLY JUST THE BASEMENT OF BURT REYNOLDS'S HOUSE

why are you acting as if nobody else thinks somebody was probably trying to move up to the Bears position?

[Guest]

 

If Trubisky is a pro bowl QB and Pace identified him as such and someone else was going to leapfrog the Bears to grab him, of course it makes the move a stroke of genius you horsefeathering pecker.

nobody was going to leapfrog them.

 

that point is obvious.

 

in any competitive negotiation the bears had the biggest chip out there in the 3 spot. SF was always going to be more comfortable moving down 1 spot to 3 than trading down several spots to get even lower.

 

And Trubisky would have been there at 3.

 

Their crafty strategy:

 

 

It was simply an elaborate conspiracy theory to trick Pace into wasting mid-round picks. Trubisky isn't even a real dude. So many teams involved, this plot goes deep.

 

I hear that Paul DePodesta was played by Jonah Hill but he had to use a different name, legally, because Paul DePodesta was too hard for John Lynch to say. Even though they tried replacing Lynch with the giant face of Channing Tatum, but Lynch said no way because he does all his own stunts. So they put a clause in his contract that states if he fucks up the sting then he has to kill himself by shooting himself in the chest so he can donate his brain to CTE study.

[Guest]

Pace was on with Mike & Mike

 

http://www.espn.com/espnradio/play?id=19287522

 

Well, sounds like someone was trying to move up to yhe Bears' pick. HOW COULD PACE HAVE KNOWN THAT? I BET IT WAS THAT GODDAMNED ROBERT REDFORD AND PAUL NEWMAN PRETENDING IT WAS A DRAFT BUT IT WAS REALLY JUST THE BASEMENT OF BURT REYNOLDS'S HOUSE

why are you acting as if nobody else thinks somebody was probably trying to move up to the Bears position?

 

And you're thinking is that Pace didn't simply ask what Cleveland or whomever, was offering, in order to fully understand the situation?

 

I'm thinking Pace played it pretty well, by operating so under the radar, that he was alerted to the possibility by his chief competition. If Chicago is linked, in any way, to that player, nobody calls him, and he loses his QB.

[minnesotacubsfan]

I'm guessing Cleveland checked in with Chicago on the 3rd pick thinking they could draft Trubisky at #3. When Pace realized he could get trumped, and SF says "yeah, the Browns called us", if Pace really wanted Trubisky he had one choice. Get the #2

[WrigleyField 22]

FWIW, I think I read the trade was pretty spot on to the traditional trade value chart. I am not the biggest fan of that chart, but it does usually end up being a pretty good representation of actual market value on trades that actually happen.

 

Also, I'm highly skeptical of the idea thrown around that John Lynch "fleeced" Pace or read through his poker face or something;

 

http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2017/05/01/san-francisco-49ers-nfl-draft-room-bears-trade-reuben-foster-peter-king

“Man, who do they want?” Lynch said. “Gotta be Solomon, right?”

“Call me crazy,” Marathe said. “But I think it’s Trubisky.”

“Then why’d they go get [free-agent quarterback Mike] Glennon?” Lynch said

Who basically sounds about as smart as the average Score caller in this sequence from the Peter King article.

 

Liking Trubisky enough to pick him at three, but drawing the line at the trade is a weird line to draw to me. I'm a fan of valuing mid round picks and not throwing them around willy nilly, but everything has an exception and trying to acquire a franchise QB is one of them. It was an insurance policy, and if you think a QB is worthy a top 3 pick, its a valuable commodity and the insurance premium is going to be high.

[David]

FWIW, I think I read the trade was pretty spot on to the traditional trade value chart. I am not the biggest fan of that chart, but it does usually end up being a pretty good representation of actual market value on trades that actually happen.

 

Also, I'm highly skeptical of the idea thrown around that John Lynch "fleeced" Pace or read through his poker face or something;

 

http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2017/05/01/san-francisco-49ers-nfl-draft-room-bears-trade-reuben-foster-peter-king

“Man, who do they want?” Lynch said. “Gotta be Solomon, right?”

“Call me crazy,” Marathe said. “But I think it’s Trubisky.”

“Then why’d they go get [free-agent quarterback Mike] Glennon?” Lynch said

Who basically sounds about as smart as the average Score caller in this sequence from the Peter King article.

 

Liking Trubisky enough to pick him at three, but drawing the line at the trade is a weird line to draw to me. I'm a fan of valuing mid round picks and not throwing them around willy nilly, but everything has an exception and trying to acquire a franchise QB is one of them. It was an insurance policy, and if you think a QB is worthy a top 3 pick, its a valuable commodity and the insurance premium is going to be high.

 

I posted this the other day, but this guy looked at it a few different ways.

 

http://www.windycitygridiron.com/2017/4/28/15470238/2017-nfl-draft-mitch-trubisky-trade-nobody-got-ripped-off-chicago-bears-value-mock

[WrigleyField 22]

FWIW, I think I read the trade was pretty spot on to the traditional trade value chart. I am not the biggest fan of that chart, but it does usually end up being a pretty good representation of actual market value on trades that actually happen.

 

Also, I'm highly skeptical of the idea thrown around that John Lynch "fleeced" Pace or read through his poker face or something;

 

http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2017/05/01/san-francisco-49ers-nfl-draft-room-bears-trade-reuben-foster-peter-king

“Man, who do they want?” Lynch said. “Gotta be Solomon, right?”

“Call me crazy,” Marathe said. “But I think it’s Trubisky.”

“Then why’d they go get [free-agent quarterback Mike] Glennon?” Lynch said

Who basically sounds about as smart as the average Score caller in this sequence from the Peter King article.

 

Liking Trubisky enough to pick him at three, but drawing the line at the trade is a weird line to draw to me. I'm a fan of valuing mid round picks and not throwing them around willy nilly, but everything has an exception and trying to acquire a franchise QB is one of them. It was an insurance policy, and if you think a QB is worthy a top 3 pick, its a valuable commodity and the insurance premium is going to be high.

 

I posted this the other day, but this guy looked at it a few different ways.

 

http://www.windycitygridiron.com/2017/4/28/15470238/2017-nfl-draft-mitch-trubisky-trade-nobody-got-ripped-off-chicago-bears-value-mock

The 99% its better to move down guy again lol?

 

Anyways, very possibly, SF and Chi both win the trade, and the loser is Cle, or someone else who maybe was trying to trade up for Trubisky. If no one else was seriously trying to trade up for Trubisky, then Chi doesn't necessarily quite lose the trade, but did obviously overpay.

[David]

FWIW, I think I read the trade was pretty spot on to the traditional trade value chart. I am not the biggest fan of that chart, but it does usually end up being a pretty good representation of actual market value on trades that actually happen.

 

Also, I'm highly skeptical of the idea thrown around that John Lynch "fleeced" Pace or read through his poker face or something;

 

http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2017/05/01/san-francisco-49ers-nfl-draft-room-bears-trade-reuben-foster-peter-king

 

Who basically sounds about as smart as the average Score caller in this sequence from the Peter King article.

 

Liking Trubisky enough to pick him at three, but drawing the line at the trade is a weird line to draw to me. I'm a fan of valuing mid round picks and not throwing them around willy nilly, but everything has an exception and trying to acquire a franchise QB is one of them. It was an insurance policy, and if you think a QB is worthy a top 3 pick, its a valuable commodity and the insurance premium is going to be high.

 

I posted this the other day, but this guy looked at it a few different ways.

 

http://www.windycitygridiron.com/2017/4/28/15470238/2017-nfl-draft-mitch-trubisky-trade-nobody-got-ripped-off-chicago-bears-value-mock

The 99% its better to move down guy again lol?

 

Anyways, very possibly, SF and Chi both win the trade, and the loser is Cle, or someone else who maybe was trying to trade up for Trubisky. If no one else was seriously trying to trade up for Trubisky, then Chi doesn't necessarily quite lose the trade, but did obviously overpay.

Not that it's of any consequence, but I feel like you're taking that number and that statement a little too literally lol

[WrigleyField 22]

 

I posted this the other day, but this guy looked at it a few different ways.

 

http://www.windycitygridiron.com/2017/4/28/15470238/2017-nfl-draft-mitch-trubisky-trade-nobody-got-ripped-off-chicago-bears-value-mock

The 99% its better to move down guy again lol?

 

Anyways, very possibly, SF and Chi both win the trade, and the loser is Cle, or someone else who maybe was trying to trade up for Trubisky. If no one else was seriously trying to trade up for Trubisky, then Chi doesn't necessarily quite lose the trade, but did obviously overpay.

Not that it's of any consequence, but I feel like you're taking that number and that statement a little too literally lol

I get it's not literal, but by its very nature it should basically a 50/50 proposition, so it's not like the guy is using hyperbole to make the point that its a very big number, lol.

[Sammy Sofa]

nobody was going to leapfrog them.

 

that point is obvious.

 

in any competitive negotiation the bears had the biggest chip out there in the 3 spot. SF was always going to be more comfortable moving down 1 spot to 3 than trading down several spots to get even lower.

 

And Trubisky would have been there at 3.

 

Their crafty strategy:

 

 

It was simply an elaborate conspiracy theory to trick Pace into wasting mid-round picks. Trubisky isn't even a real dude. So many teams involved, this plot goes deep.

 

I hear that Paul DePodesta was played by Jonah Hill but he had to use a different name, legally, because Paul DePodesta was too hard for John Lynch to say. Even though they tried replacing Lynch with the giant face of Channing Tatum, but Lynch said no way because he does all his own stunts. So they put a clause in his contract that states if he horsefeathers up the sting then he has to kill himself by shooting himself in the chest so he can donate his brain to CTE study.

 

Whut.

[David]

i know these college highlights against this competition are entirely meaningless, but this is still fun to watch

[jersey cubs fan]

i know these college highlights against this competition are entirely meaningless, but this is still fun to watch

at least his were filmed from press box level instead of cheerleader angle for Ashland Chipotle.

[UMFan83]

i know these college highlights against this competition are entirely meaningless, but this is still fun to watch

 

Again like you said, this is with respect to the level of competition, but he looks Devin Hester like in his elusiveness, acceleration, ability to use his blockers and ability to cut back at the perfect time.

[David]

i know these college highlights against this competition are entirely meaningless, but this is still fun to watch

 

Again like you said, this is with respect to the level of competition, but he looks Devin Hester like in his elusiveness, acceleration, ability to use his blockers and ability to cut back at the perfect time.

 

I actually thought the same but didn't want to say such a silly thing

[jersey cubs fan]

 

http://sportsmockery.com/2017/04/ryan-pace-could-luck-out-again-by-snagging-brand-new-free-agent/

[David]

 

http://sportsmockery.com/2017/04/ryan-pace-could-luck-out-again-by-snagging-brand-new-free-agent/

 

I was so confused by that blog saying "A Bears Jaye Howard reunion could help both parties" like i somehow completely missed a player we had at some point

[David]

http://wgnradio.com/2017/05/01/hoges-10-bears-things-final-thoughts-conclusions-on-a-wild-bears-draft/

[jersey cubs fan]

http://wgnradio.com/2017/05/01/hoges-10-bears-things-final-thoughts-conclusions-on-a-wild-bears-draft/

 

Contrary to the popular narrative over the weekend, two third-round picks and a fourth-rounder is not a lot to give up for a quarterback in the first round.

 

Another in a long line of stupid quotes by Bears media.

 

They didn't give up "2 third round picks and a fourth round pick for a quarterback."

[WrigleyField 22]

http://wgnradio.com/2017/05/01/hoges-10-bears-things-final-thoughts-conclusions-on-a-wild-bears-draft/

Thanks, pretty good article;

Now, I’m not naive. You don’t draft a quarterback No. 2 overall unless you plan on him being your franchise quarterback, but there’s nothing wrong with having more than one bullet in the gun at the most important position in sports. A city starving for a quarterback as much as Chicago should understand that.

I actually think Chicago fans are struggling with this based on what I've seen/read elsewhere. We're a collectively a scarred bunch and just want our comfort zone of great defenses and Jim Miller-Shane Matthews, Rex Grossman-Kyle Orton QB battles.

[WrigleyField 22]

 

http://sportsmockery.com/2017/04/ryan-pace-could-luck-out-again-by-snagging-brand-new-free-agent/

Would make me feel better about our DL rotation. Any interesting OLB out there too?

 

Also this;

 

And mostly some guys who should get some "Who?" reacations