Bears offseason

[WrigleyField 22]

seems weird that we signed Cunningham and then used one of our 5 draft picks on another change of pace RB. I know Pace is a BPA guy (with a glaring exception) but RB is really not a position I would have expected us to draft especially with just 5 total picks and about 30 holes at other positions. I guess they will probably try to use this guy as a return man as well. Either way at least one of Carey, Langford or Cunningham is gone.

Not surprised at all they went RB day three. They had lots of visits with day 3 scat back/ third down back types.

 

I think Langford is safe. If Howard is injured or has a sophmore slump, Langford is the only back on this tean who could do a number one back, 20 carries a game type act, and I think this O will plan to run a lot. Thst said 4 backs seems likely with a battle between Cunningham, Carey, and Cohen. I'd say Carey has the biggest hill to climb.

[minnesotacubsfan]

do running backs have sophomore slumps?

[David]

That was one of my points all along. We're just not in a great position to take a QB. We'll be keeping Fox and Co in 2018 now too, since the entire regime now gets a hall pass of some sort in 2017. Continuity is a great thing, we won't have that for Trubisky.

 

Then, you've got to shoehorn your next head coach into Trubisky, when he'd prefer finding his own guy, unless Trubisky has shown enough by then, that's he's the goods.....

 

And how will he? He's got no receivers and the line isn't set at all on the exterior.

 

Moving up and losing picks to get Trubisky didn't bother me. We could recoup picks at that point. Just one trade down to 45 and then reaching on a position that was far from our biggest need, that bothered me.....

 

Free Agency sucked. Its taking a blanket approach. Spreading cash around. Its set up for pure mediocrity at best. No impact at all. Spent tons of money on depth.

 

Which tells me they actually LIKE what's on the roster. And that's scary. Its a bottom 5 roster. They think health is going to propel them. To what? 6 wins?

 

Pace says he's building thru the draft.....In a full fledged rebuild(which this is), using 5 picks in the draft is horsefeathering stupid. That's what teams with GOOD rosters do, in taking a luxury pick.

 

I didn't want Trubisky. I think its 50/50 that he's successful. I don't think this team was in position to take that chance at this point. I'm pulling for him though.

 

But, I'm very worried this just set us back further.

 

i'm admittedly making assumptions about what you are terming to be "successful" here, but if you think that it's 50/50, i feel like you should be ecstatic with the pick.

[davell]

That was one of my points all along. We're just not in a great position to take a QB. We'll be keeping Fox and Co in 2018 now too, since the entire regime now gets a hall pass of some sort in 2017. Continuity is a great thing, we won't have that for Trubisky.

 

Then, you've got to shoehorn your next head coach into Trubisky, when he'd prefer finding his own guy, unless Trubisky has shown enough by then, that's he's the goods.....

 

And how will he? He's got no receivers and the line isn't set at all on the exterior.

 

Moving up and losing picks to get Trubisky didn't bother me. We could recoup picks at that point. Just one trade down to 45 and then reaching on a position that was far from our biggest need, that bothered me.....

 

Free Agency sucked. Its taking a blanket approach. Spreading cash around. Its set up for pure mediocrity at best. No impact at all. Spent tons of money on depth.

 

Which tells me they actually LIKE what's on the roster. And that's scary. Its a bottom 5 roster. They think health is going to propel them. To what? 6 wins?

 

Pace says he's building thru the draft.....In a full fledged rebuild(which this is), using 5 picks in the draft is horsefeathering stupid. That's what teams with GOOD rosters do, in taking a luxury pick.

 

I didn't want Trubisky. I think its 50/50 that he's successful. I don't think this team was in position to take that chance at this point. I'm pulling for him though.

 

But, I'm very worried this just set us back further.

 

i'm admittedly making assumptions about what you are terming to be "successful" here, but if you think that it's 50/50, i feel like you should be ecstatic with the pick.

 

I don't mean franchise guy, I'm just talking "hey, he actually winds up starting for a few years" level of success. Franchise QB is a weird term anyway.

 

And no, that shouldn't mean you should be ecstatic. Next year is going to be so horsefeathering weird. Preseason will be must-see. You're probably not getting any Trubisky in the first half of the year. Maybe none at all, if Glennon looks competent and the team scratches out 6-8 wins.

 

I can't wait for next years QB class to wind up phenomenal. 4-5 guys better than anyone this draft. Its actually conceivable. But, that still affects us. If we wind up with a top 3-5 pick again next year(definitely possible), we could conceivably be put in a spot where Pace has to choose between Trubisky or one of that group.

 

Granted, it'd be hard for Trubisky to do anything that affects his own status next year and it'd be a bad look for Pace to abandon him. At any rate, maybe you can suck and actually get a true haul with a trade down next year.

 

I don't see playoffs. I think bottom 5 talent in the league is where this team is currently. If they play to that level again, I'll be hopeful they get a haul out of a trade down next year. Maybe they can make up some lost ground.

[WrigleyField 22]

do running backs have sophomore slumps?

I think in general, RB can be flash in the pan, especially after carrying big work loads the first time. I recall Forte slumping his second year. Its not like Howard is a dynamic pass catcher either to contribute in other ways. He'll be targeted this year big time.

[jersey cubs fan]

That was one of my points all along. We're just not in a great position to take a QB. We'll be keeping Fox and Co in 2018 now too, since the entire regime now gets a hall pass of some sort in 2017. Continuity is a great thing, we won't have that for Trubisky.

 

Then, you've got to shoehorn your next head coach into Trubisky, when he'd prefer finding his own guy, unless Trubisky has shown enough by then, that's he's the goods.....

 

And how will he? He's got no receivers and the line isn't set at all on the exterior.

 

Moving up and losing picks to get Trubisky didn't bother me. We could recoup picks at that point. Just one trade down to 45 and then reaching on a position that was far from our biggest need, that bothered me.....

 

Free Agency sucked. Its taking a blanket approach. Spreading cash around. Its set up for pure mediocrity at best. No impact at all. Spent tons of money on depth.

 

Which tells me they actually LIKE what's on the roster. And that's scary. Its a bottom 5 roster. They think health is going to propel them. To what? 6 wins?

 

Pace says he's building thru the draft.....In a full fledged rebuild(which this is), using 5 picks in the draft is horsefeathering stupid. That's what teams with GOOD rosters do, in taking a luxury pick.

 

I didn't want Trubisky. I think its 50/50 that he's successful. I don't think this team was in position to take that chance at this point. I'm pulling for him though.

 

But, I'm very worried this just set us back further.

I'm in board with the pick and think it's way less than 50/50 it works.

[davell]

Serious question for those that WANTED a QB at 3.....

 

Why were you so intent on doing it THIS year? We already signed Glennon. The success rates of QB's in the 1st is certainly not great. The fact that in this case, it was going to require taking a guy higher than where he's at on most boards. There's going to be a coaching change he's going to have to go thru soon. You're unsettled at the receiver spots, or on the outside of your O-Line. The team looks very bad on paper and its likely you'd be in or near the same position next year as you are now. Next years class looks better, by far. If its not, you've still got Glennon and a guy like Kizer, who you could have gotten in the 2nd.

 

Just seems like we really rushed this. We're not set up to take this kind of risk, in my mind. The whole "if not now, then when?" narrative is literally answered with "how about any other time?"

 

As a Bears fan, there's obviously an excited part of me. Hopes that Trubisky is awesome. But, looking at this roster and what appears to be ahead of us in the next year or 2, I'm really wondering if this just sets us back even further.

 

I wasn't ever on board with a QB at 3. But, the rest of the draft and FA too, has taken me from kind of liking Pace, to hoping he's gone soon.

[David]

Serious question for those that WANTED a QB at 3.....

 

Why were you so intent on doing it THIS year? We already signed Glennon. The success rates of QB's in the 1st is certainly not great. The fact that in this case, it was going to require taking a guy higher than where he's at on most boards. There's going to be a coaching change he's going to have to go thru soon. You're unsettled at the receiver spots, or on the outside of your O-Line. The team looks very bad on paper and its likely you'd be in or near the same position next year as you are now. Next years class looks better, by far. If its not, you've still got Glennon and a guy like Kizer, who you could have gotten in the 2nd.

 

Just seems like we really rushed this. We're not set up to take this kind of risk, in my mind. The whole "if not now, then when?" narrative is literally answered with "how about any other time?"

 

As a Bears fan, there's obviously an excited part of me. Hopes that Trubisky is awesome. But, looking at this roster and what appears to be ahead of us in the next year or 2, I'm really wondering if this just sets us back even further.

 

I wasn't ever on board with a QB at 3. But, the rest of the draft and FA too, has taken me from kind of liking Pace, to hoping he's gone soon.

 

I didn't WANT a QB (as I was pretty vocal about), so I guess this isn't directed at me, but if they were going to take one in the first, Trubisky was the one I liked best. I do respect the conviction and the balls it took for Pace to do this, and if he's as good as they obviously think, none of it matters. QB is a weird position and I don't love the whole "well if your guy gets taken you can get this other guy who is publicly viewed similarly" with it. Not in the first or second round, at least.

 

Gotta say, everything I've read about and seen with Trubisky in the last few days has me very impressed.

 

As for the rest of the draft, who the horsefeathers knows either. I know by now not to give a horsefeathers about how pundits rate drafts in the immediate aftermath. The whole thing with the media blasting the Bears draft a day after like they have any idea if it's actually good or not is hilarious to me. It's the job of scouts and the FO to find and pick who they think are good players. At the very least, they've earned some benefit of the doubt from me with how solid last year's draft (and I'll give a little credit for Goldman in 2015). There's some intrigue with the players they took. I can't wait to see Shaheen in preseason. Jackson was a good value. Let's actually see them play first.

[minnesotacubsfan]

Serious question for those that WANTED a QB at 3.....

 

Why were you so intent on doing it THIS year? We already signed Glennon. The success rates of QB's in the 1st is certainly not great. The fact that in this case, it was going to require taking a guy higher than where he's at on most boards. There's going to be a coaching change he's going to have to go thru soon. You're unsettled at the receiver spots, or on the outside of your O-Line. The team looks very bad on paper and its likely you'd be in or near the same position next year as you are now. Next years class looks better, by far. If its not, you've still got Glennon and a guy like Kizer, who you could have gotten in the 2nd.

 

Just seems like we really rushed this. We're not set up to take this kind of risk, in my mind. The whole "if not now, then when?" narrative is literally answered with "how about any other time?"

 

As a Bears fan, there's obviously an excited part of me. Hopes that Trubisky is awesome. But, looking at this roster and what appears to be ahead of us in the next year or 2, I'm really wondering if this just sets us back even further.

 

I wasn't ever on board with a QB at 3. But, the rest of the draft and FA too, has taken me from kind of liking Pace, to hoping he's gone soon.

 

 

What is the percentage of HOF quarterbacks taken outside of the first round?

 

Of course there will be a lot of failed ones, but QB has always been a Rd 1 prize, since Joe Namath. Saying "next year will be better" is totally guessing. Look at Kizer, he was supposed to light the world on fire this year and couldn't. They went with the top QB in the draft and took no chances of losing him. It looks crazy, but only crazy in theory w/o the results. Time will judge Trubisky as it will judge all the qbs, but to whine about making a calculated move is pointless

[minnesotacubsfan]

Also, you can't win in the NFL w/o a QB, and you need to be nearly perfect at every other position in order to win w/a mediocre QB

[davell]

Yeah, we're in wait and see mode. No doubt. We're going to get slaughtered by the national media(already are), which is just fodder until something is actually known.

 

Some QB's aren't going to fit certain systems perfectly. Trubisky evidently fits this one the best. Unfortunately, this system may very well wave bye bye soon enough, if Pace and Fox get punted into the stratosphere. I still have NO IDEA if they're even on the same page or not, depending on who you listen to.

[jersey cubs fan]

Serious question for those that WANTED a QB at 3.....

 

Why were you so intent on doing it THIS year? We already signed Glennon. The success rates of QB's in the 1st is certainly not great. The fact that in this case, it was going to require taking a guy higher than where he's at on most boards. There's going to be a coaching change he's going to have to go thru soon. You're unsettled at the receiver spots, or on the outside of your O-Line. The team looks very bad on paper and its likely you'd be in or near the same position next year as you are now. Next years class looks better, by far. If its not, you've still got Glennon and a guy like Kizer, who you could have gotten in the 2nd.

 

Just seems like we really rushed this. We're not set up to take this kind of risk, in my mind. The whole "if not now, then when?" narrative is literally answered with "how about any other time?"

 

As a Bears fan, there's obviously an excited part of me. Hopes that Trubisky is awesome. But, looking at this roster and what appears to be ahead of us in the next year or 2, I'm really wondering if this just sets us back even further.

 

I wasn't ever on board with a QB at 3. But, the rest of the draft and FA too, has taken me from kind of liking Pace, to hoping he's gone soon.

 

I didn't WANT a QB (as I was pretty vocal about), so I guess this isn't directed at me, but if they were going to take one in the first, Trubisky was the one I liked best. I do respect the conviction and the balls it took for Pace to do this, and if he's as good as they obviously think, none of it matters. QB is a weird position and I don't love the whole "well if your guy gets taken you can get this other guy who is publicly viewed similarly" with it. Not in the first or second round, at least.

 

Gotta say, everything I've read about and seen with Trubisky in the last few days has me very impressed.

 

As for the rest of the draft, who the horsefeathers knows either. I know by now not to give a horsefeathers about how pundits rate drafts in the immediate aftermath. The whole thing with the media blasting the Bears draft a day after like they have any idea if it's actually good or not is hilarious to me. It's the job of scouts and the FO to find and pick who they think are good players. At the very least, they've earned some benefit of the doubt from me with how solid last year's draft (and I'll give a little credit for Goldman in 2015). There's some intrigue with the players they took. I can't wait to see Shaheen in preseason. Jackson was a good value. Let's actually see them play first.

I really don't get the "respect the balls" idea. It wasn't a ballsy move at all in my mind.

[davell]

Serious question for those that WANTED a QB at 3.....

 

Why were you so intent on doing it THIS year? We already signed Glennon. The success rates of QB's in the 1st is certainly not great. The fact that in this case, it was going to require taking a guy higher than where he's at on most boards. There's going to be a coaching change he's going to have to go thru soon. You're unsettled at the receiver spots, or on the outside of your O-Line. The team looks very bad on paper and its likely you'd be in or near the same position next year as you are now. Next years class looks better, by far. If its not, you've still got Glennon and a guy like Kizer, who you could have gotten in the 2nd.

 

Just seems like we really rushed this. We're not set up to take this kind of risk, in my mind. The whole "if not now, then when?" narrative is literally answered with "how about any other time?"

 

As a Bears fan, there's obviously an excited part of me. Hopes that Trubisky is awesome. But, looking at this roster and what appears to be ahead of us in the next year or 2, I'm really wondering if this just sets us back even further.

 

I wasn't ever on board with a QB at 3. But, the rest of the draft and FA too, has taken me from kind of liking Pace, to hoping he's gone soon.

 

 

What is the percentage of HOF quarterbacks taken outside of the first round?

 

Of course there will be a lot of failed ones, but QB has always been a Rd 1 prize, since Joe Namath. Saying "next year will be better" is totally guessing. Look at Kizer, he was supposed to light the world on fire this year and couldn't. They went with the top QB in the draft and took no chances of losing him. It looks crazy, but only crazy in theory w/o the results. Time will judge Trubisky as it will judge all the qbs, but to whine about making a calculated move is pointless

 

Percentage of HOF QB's is beyond meaningless. Saying next year will be better is NOT totally guessing either. You can look at the options heading into a year and make educated guesses. Its not fool proof, but its far from a total crapshoot.

[davell]

Serious question for those that WANTED a QB at 3.....

 

Why were you so intent on doing it THIS year? We already signed Glennon. The success rates of QB's in the 1st is certainly not great. The fact that in this case, it was going to require taking a guy higher than where he's at on most boards. There's going to be a coaching change he's going to have to go thru soon. You're unsettled at the receiver spots, or on the outside of your O-Line. The team looks very bad on paper and its likely you'd be in or near the same position next year as you are now. Next years class looks better, by far. If its not, you've still got Glennon and a guy like Kizer, who you could have gotten in the 2nd.

 

Just seems like we really rushed this. We're not set up to take this kind of risk, in my mind. The whole "if not now, then when?" narrative is literally answered with "how about any other time?"

 

As a Bears fan, there's obviously an excited part of me. Hopes that Trubisky is awesome. But, looking at this roster and what appears to be ahead of us in the next year or 2, I'm really wondering if this just sets us back even further.

 

I wasn't ever on board with a QB at 3. But, the rest of the draft and FA too, has taken me from kind of liking Pace, to hoping he's gone soon.

 

I didn't WANT a QB (as I was pretty vocal about), so I guess this isn't directed at me, but if they were going to take one in the first, Trubisky was the one I liked best. I do respect the conviction and the balls it took for Pace to do this, and if he's as good as they obviously think, none of it matters. QB is a weird position and I don't love the whole "well if your guy gets taken you can get this other guy who is publicly viewed similarly" with it. Not in the first or second round, at least.

 

Gotta say, everything I've read about and seen with Trubisky in the last few days has me very impressed.

 

As for the rest of the draft, who the horsefeathers knows either. I know by now not to give a horsefeathers about how pundits rate drafts in the immediate aftermath. The whole thing with the media blasting the Bears draft a day after like they have any idea if it's actually good or not is hilarious to me. It's the job of scouts and the FO to find and pick who they think are good players. At the very least, they've earned some benefit of the doubt from me with how solid last year's draft (and I'll give a little credit for Goldman in 2015). There's some intrigue with the players they took. I can't wait to see Shaheen in preseason. Jackson was a good value. Let's actually see them play first.

I really don't get the "respect the balls" idea. It wasn't a ballsy move at all in my mind.

 

It could also be construed as "I've definitely bought myself another year".

[CaliforniaRaisin]

I've had some time to process not only the draft, but this entire offseason. And while I do like some of the moves (going in a legitimate direction at the QB position), I think overall there's not a ton to like.

 

It just seems like Pace is trying to play both sides of the fence a little too much. Spent more in free agency than any other team, but didn't really add any real building blocks. Showing loyalty to Fox by giving him a veteran QB, but then going all out for the top QB in the draft.

 

I think I'd feel better if the future of this team wasn't ALL on Trubisky's back. Granted,the future of any team is on the QB regardless, but I think the Bears would be in a much better position had at least 1 of the following things happened:

 

- New QB friendly coaching staff, with some history of developing a decent QB. John Fox is not a QB guy, and is too old for my liking. Loggains is nothing more than just "OK" as a QB coach/offensive coordinator. Nothing special. Had an opportunity and justification to get a new staff in here to develop a QB that was clearly going to be brought in thru the draft.

 

- Big splash in Free agency. I know, you build teams thru the draft. But the Bears had a ton of money to spent, actually spent the money, but still don't have much to show for it. Basically a bunch of 1-year deals or guys who could be cut with minimal lost after this year. I would have greatly preferred if the Bears could add at least 1 CB, safety, WR or OL that you could etch in the starting lineup for the next 3 years. And the Bears clearly tried and failed to get Gilmore, Bouye, Jeffery, and others.

 

- A less risky draft. I know every single pick is a risk to some extent. No pick is more likely to pan out than any other. But the Bears not only went from 7 to 5 picks on a team with needs at every position, they used 3 of the picks on guys who have to face a huge jump in competition. After going with an always risky QB pick early, I'd hope they'd follow it up with some more sure things types, if that even exists.

 

I just don't think this is the best situation for Trubisky to succeed. It's a long shot for him to get much help from his draft class. He doesn't have many veteran pieces in place that are going to help him along the way. And he isn't likely to get much help from a coaching staff that isn't likely to be here for the entirety of his rookie contract. The future success on this team is squarely on the shoulders of Trubisky at this point. The only people here that I can see taking pressure off him are Howard, Whitehair, Long, Meredith, Floyd, and Goldman. Everyone else on the roster either hasn't shown much yet or isn't going to be on the roster this time in 2019 (exception is Hicks re-signing and/or Cooper taking a big step forward).

 

Seems like these things don't often work out when a team doesn't full commit to one direction. That being said, if Trubisky is truly a stud....then everything else will fall into place. I just think the odds are more stacked against him than they should be at this point.

his future is in the hands of the offensive line, that must keep Glennon healthy enough while losing 15 games. And then maybe next year they will try to draft actual football players.

 

Oh, I'm going to be annoyed if they get another incredibly high draft pick in a draft where there are possibly 3 franchise QBs.

[David]

Serious question for those that WANTED a QB at 3.....

 

Why were you so intent on doing it THIS year? We already signed Glennon. The success rates of QB's in the 1st is certainly not great. The fact that in this case, it was going to require taking a guy higher than where he's at on most boards. There's going to be a coaching change he's going to have to go thru soon. You're unsettled at the receiver spots, or on the outside of your O-Line. The team looks very bad on paper and its likely you'd be in or near the same position next year as you are now. Next years class looks better, by far. If its not, you've still got Glennon and a guy like Kizer, who you could have gotten in the 2nd.

 

Just seems like we really rushed this. We're not set up to take this kind of risk, in my mind. The whole "if not now, then when?" narrative is literally answered with "how about any other time?"

 

As a Bears fan, there's obviously an excited part of me. Hopes that Trubisky is awesome. But, looking at this roster and what appears to be ahead of us in the next year or 2, I'm really wondering if this just sets us back even further.

 

I wasn't ever on board with a QB at 3. But, the rest of the draft and FA too, has taken me from kind of liking Pace, to hoping he's gone soon.

 

I didn't WANT a QB (as I was pretty vocal about), so I guess this isn't directed at me, but if they were going to take one in the first, Trubisky was the one I liked best. I do respect the conviction and the balls it took for Pace to do this, and if he's as good as they obviously think, none of it matters. QB is a weird position and I don't love the whole "well if your guy gets taken you can get this other guy who is publicly viewed similarly" with it. Not in the first or second round, at least.

 

Gotta say, everything I've read about and seen with Trubisky in the last few days has me very impressed.

 

As for the rest of the draft, who the horsefeathers knows either. I know by now not to give a horsefeathers about how pundits rate drafts in the immediate aftermath. The whole thing with the media blasting the Bears draft a day after like they have any idea if it's actually good or not is hilarious to me. It's the job of scouts and the FO to find and pick who they think are good players. At the very least, they've earned some benefit of the doubt from me with how solid last year's draft (and I'll give a little credit for Goldman in 2015). There's some intrigue with the players they took. I can't wait to see Shaheen in preseason. Jackson was a good value. Let's actually see them play first.

I really don't get the "respect the balls" idea. It wasn't a ballsy move at all in my mind.

 

Just think he's sticking his neck out and had to know how much horsefeathers was going to be flung his way. Ultimately, that's just noise, I suppose. I do get your angle that it buys him more time, if anything.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I'm not sure I can get behind the line of thought that says "we're looking at mediocrity at best, so what we really needed was more 4th-round picks."

[David]

I've had some time to process not only the draft, but this entire offseason. And while I do like some of the moves (going in a legitimate direction at the QB position), I think overall there's not a ton to like.

 

It just seems like Pace is trying to play both sides of the fence a little too much. Spent more in free agency than any other team, but didn't really add any real building blocks. Showing loyalty to Fox by giving him a veteran QB, but then going all out for the top QB in the draft.

 

I think I'd feel better if the future of this team wasn't ALL on Trubisky's back. Granted,the future of any team is on the QB regardless, but I think the Bears would be in a much better position had at least 1 of the following things happened:

 

- New QB friendly coaching staff, with some history of developing a decent QB. John Fox is not a QB guy, and is too old for my liking. Loggains is nothing more than just "OK" as a QB coach/offensive coordinator. Nothing special. Had an opportunity and justification to get a new staff in here to develop a QB that was clearly going to be brought in thru the draft.

 

- Big splash in Free agency. I know, you build teams thru the draft. But the Bears had a ton of money to spent, actually spent the money, but still don't have much to show for it. Basically a bunch of 1-year deals or guys who could be cut with minimal lost after this year. I would have greatly preferred if the Bears could add at least 1 CB, safety, WR or OL that you could etch in the starting lineup for the next 3 years. And the Bears clearly tried and failed to get Gilmore, Bouye, Jeffery, and others.

 

- A less risky draft. I know every single pick is a risk to some extent. No pick is more likely to pan out than any other. But the Bears not only went from 7 to 5 picks on a team with needs at every position, they used 3 of the picks on guys who have to face a huge jump in competition. After going with an always risky QB pick early, I'd hope they'd follow it up with some more sure things types, if that even exists.

 

I just don't think this is the best situation for Trubisky to succeed. It's a long shot for him to get much help from his draft class. He doesn't have many veteran pieces in place that are going to help him along the way. And he isn't likely to get much help from a coaching staff that isn't likely to be here for the entirety of his rookie contract. The future success on this team is squarely on the shoulders of Trubisky at this point. The only people here that I can see taking pressure off him are Howard, Whitehair, Long, Meredith, Floyd, and Goldman. Everyone else on the roster either hasn't shown much yet or isn't going to be on the roster this time in 2019 (exception is Hicks re-signing and/or Cooper taking a big step forward).

 

Seems like these things don't often work out when a team doesn't full commit to one direction. That being said, if Trubisky is truly a stud....then everything else will fall into place. I just think the odds are more stacked against him than they should be at this point.

his future is in the hands of the offensive line, that must keep Glennon healthy enough while losing 15 games. And then maybe next year they will try to draft actual football players.

 

Oh, I'm going to be annoyed if they get another incredibly high draft pick in a draft where there are possibly 3 franchise QBs.

 

If they are THAT bad, which is obviously in the range of possibilities, it seems like a great opportunity to get a crazypants RG3 type haul for the pick.

[davell]

his future is in the hands of the offensive line, that must keep Glennon healthy enough while losing 15 games. And then maybe next year they will try to draft actual football players.

 

Oh, I'm going to be annoyed if they get another incredibly high draft pick in a draft where there are possibly 3 franchise QBs.

 

If they are THAT bad, which is obviously in the range of possibilities, it seems like a great opportunity to get a crazypants RG3 type haul for the pick.

 

5 win over/under, with only SF and Cleveland behind....

[David]

 

Oh, I'm going to be annoyed if they get another incredibly high draft pick in a draft where there are possibly 3 franchise QBs.

 

If they are THAT bad, which is obviously in the range of possibilities, it seems like a great opportunity to get a crazypants RG3 type haul for the pick.

 

5 win over/under, with only SF and Cleveland behind....

 

yeah i saw that

 

with our schedule, i don't think it's crazy. i'd probably take the over if you put a gun to my head though. it's hard to be THAT bad, especially with a competent QB, which I think glennon is, and what likely will be a decent defense. my guess is something like 6 or 7.

Edited April 30, 2017 by David

[WrigleyField 22]

Whats this crap about 1st round QBs being a crap shoot. Its a lot better than any other round.

 

Also whos cares about next years class. You don't get to draft class worth of guys, youre drafting one guy. If that guy meets your criteria, why would you wait?

[davell]

Whats this crap about 1st round QBs being a crap shoot. Its a lot better than any other round.

 

Also whos cares about next years class. You don't get to draft class worth of guys, youre drafting one guy. If that guy meets your criteria, why would you wait?

 

I think its more than fair to question if Pace reached for one or not. Just because you think you're not going to be in this spot again, doesn't mean you HAVE to take one. And I've posted 1st rounders in the past, its closer to a crapshoot than anything else.

[jersey cubs fan]

Whats this crap about 1st round QBs being a crap shoot. Its a lot better than any other round.

 

Also whos cares about next years class. You don't get to draft class worth of guys, youre drafting one guy. If that guy meets your criteria, why would you wait?

People who wanted to wait didn't believe any of these guys met their criteria.

[WrigleyField 22]

Its less of a crapshoot than a QB in rounds 2 through 4 (let alone anything after that which isnt even worth mentioning).

 

Sure, its fair to question him on everything. I'm not sold, but I hate this crap about next year.

[WrigleyField 22]

Whats this crap about 1st round QBs being a crap shoot. Its a lot better than any other round.

 

Also whos cares about next years class. You don't get to draft class worth of guys, youre drafting one guy. If that guy meets your criteria, why would you wait?

People who wanted to wait didn't believe any of these guys met their criteria.

Then why not just say that? No need to bring up next years class?