When do we start talking 2016 Draft?

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PetermanRealityTour wrote:

Any Chicago-Area Prospects worth a high pick?

 

Usually like to go to a couple playoff games with the top guys throwing

 

Like TomtheBombadil wrote U of I RHP - C. Sedlock is the highest rated prospect in the draft and is very impressive. I doubt the Cubs will get a chance to draft him since he'll probably go in the 1st round.

 

I believe RHP - Z. Burdi is actually from the Chicago suburbs (I could be wrong?) so he would be the highest rated draft prospect from the Chicago-land area? The HS C - Cooper Johnson is a defensive wizard behind the plate and will most likely be taken in the 2nd round. There is also a RHP - M. Dietz who pitches downstate at a small CC (John A. Logan) who will probably go in rounds 3-4.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Yeah, Burdi is probably the highest rated guy actually from the Chicago area.

 

Nah, Corey Ray wins that honor (Simeon HS).

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Dang, forgot about him. You are correct!

[Hrubes20]

What are everyone's thoughts on taking either Kyle Funkhouser or Kyle Cody if they are there in the 3rd? Neither have improved much over their junior years, but both have some nice raw stuff. As seniors without elite production, they shouldn't be expected monster bonuses.

[SRQCub]

http://www.baseballamerica.com/draft/mock-draft-4-0/#P40V3U3ZD4ubwkZ0.97

 

Moniak at 1 seems odd to me.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

http://www.baseballamerica.com/draft/mock-draft-4-0/#P40V3U3ZD4ubwkZ0.97

 

Moniak at 1 seems odd to me.

 

It is probably more possible than Puk at 1, they are nuts if they go with a pitcher. I learned that there is a Boras Classic HS baseball tournament in that article. Collins finally makes the top 10, just 4-6 more spots to go. I was going to mention TJ Zeuch as a 104 candidate after a good game against Miami, but he's in there at 16.

 

Zeuch and Justin Dunn (BC) have quite a bit of helium.

 

Also, the link says Cal Quantrill is doing bullpen sessions (there was a poster asking about Quantrill and Wil Crowe's rehab from TJS a while ago).

[Tryptamine]

I really hope in the near future that draft picks are made tradeable assets.

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Tryptamine wrote:

I really hope in the near future that draft picks are made tradeable assets.

 

I think there is strong momentum now for allowing draft picks (all draft picks) to be traded in the next CBA. They've experimented with it, and there are some drawbacks (big market teams like the Dodgers can essentially buy a draft pick by taking on a bad contract/player). Still, teams should be allowed to trade draft picks if they choose to do so.

 

Also, the intrigue of trading up/down in the draft will be exciting and we will be able to see which scouting departments can take advantage of that. There are definitely years where I could see a team with the #1 overall pick wanting to trade down when there is no consensus top talent available...

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Mark Gonzales[/url]"]The Cubs scouted pitcher/third baseman Bobby Dalbec of Arizona during a series three weeks ago against Arizona State. Dalbec, once projected as a late first-round pick, has experienced a subpar junior season.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Video of Jason McLeod talking about next week's draft: http://vplayer.nbcsports.com/p/BxmELC/chicago_article/select/media/i_71sELPkGzc

[CaliforniaRaisin]

David: Alec Hansen has performed better of late – does the stuff match the improving box scores?

Klaw: No. I heard he was mostly 90-92 at the big 12

 

Kevin: Keith, Oregon pitcher questions. Matt Krook still a top-five round pick? Could Cole Irvin and Stephen Nogosek go that high too.

Klaw: Krook maybe fourth/fifth, but given healthy history I think he could get past that. Neither of the others seems like a great bet to go that high either.

 

Jon: When do you see Kyle Funkhouser getting drafted this year?

Klaw: Third round. He’ll never see the $2 million-plus he turned down last year.

 

Lute: This time last year some people were talking 1-1 for Dalbec and then he horsefeathers the bed. Does he go back to school or take whatever he’s offered in round 20?

Klaw: OK, anyone who was talking 1-1 on him last spring or summer was out of his or her mind. He was NEVER that kind of prospect. If he’d hit some, he could have been a first-rounder, but his hit tool has always been a question mark. I think he’d be better off going back to school if someone doesn’t offer him, say, top 3 rounds money.

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The thing about possibly selecting Bobby Dalbec is what he prefers doing on a baseball field :dontknow:

 

Going into this year scouts thought he might improve his stock and be viewed as a decent hitting prospect with a suspect hit tool, but game-changing power. I mean the pool of college hitting prospects is not that impressive this year. Also, going into this year (I believe) not that many preferred him as a pitcher. I don't know what he prefers personally, but he might ask a team or all teams that he wants to be drafted as a hitter even though most teams view him as a pitcher.

 

I don't like him as a prospect personally. I mean yeah, he's athletic and seems to possess a strong arm, but he seems like he'll end up being a reliever. I mean if I were him I would go back to school to improve my stock unless some team really believes in me and takes me in the top 3 rounds, but that looks unlikely right now. Just my 2 cents...

[toonsterwu]

a month ago, I wouldve laughed at this thought, but I wonder if Connor Jones is there at 104. With his struggles down the stretch, plus low k's, and recent uva pitching history ... I wonder. Still think he probably gets popped in the 2nd.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

A four round community mock draft which gives you an idea of the type of players who will be around for the Cubs' first two picks: http://www.minorleagueball.com/mlb-baseball-draft/2016/6/5/11860974/2016-minor-league-ball-community-mock-draft-final-results

 

3.104: Zach Hess, RHP, Liberty Christian HS (Virginia)

4.134: Shaun Anderson, RHP, Florida

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The good thing about this draft is it's deep in HS pitching prospects and I believe (and hope) the Cubs have scouted the lower tier prospects pretty well. No point in scouting the top 50-75 prospects beyond a cursory glance.

 

Sure there is a chance someone falls but we probably can't sign them anyway. I expect some HS pitchers and college senior signings. This draft class could be very good or very very bad depending on how these pitching prospects they select develop in the future. No highly-rated advanced hitting prospect to redeem the draft class this time...

[davell]

I think that's the direction I'd go too. But my guess is they go with mostly college pitching. I'll guess they take 2 HS pitchers inside the first 10 rounds and my guess is they only take seniors in 9 and 10. Just not enough money to play with here, so I think they'll take the "boring" route. But......They've gotten to spend much more time on the 100-300 type players than other teams, since they didn't have to worry with top 75 types. I figure it'll be boring as horsefeathers, but they'll come out of it with a decent class once its looked at a few years later.

 

My guess is 6 college pitchers, 2 HS pitchers, and 2 college position players inside the top 10 rounds, with 2 senior signs......

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Davell wrote:

My guess is 6 college pitchers, 2 HS pitchers, and 2 college position players inside the top 10 rounds, with 2 senior signs......

 

Ah, I think you forgot they don't have a 1st or 2nd round pick this yr buddy lol. Only 8 picks in the first 10 rounds this time...

[davell]

Davell wrote:

My guess is 6 college pitchers, 2 HS pitchers, and 2 college position players inside the top 10 rounds, with 2 senior signs......

 

Ah, I think you forgot they don't have a 1st or 2nd round pick this yr buddy lol. Only 8 picks in the first 10 rounds this time...

 

Ha! Geez, I'll take it down to 4 college pitchers. Although, I could AMOST see them using every pick on pitching in this draft, especially with the large discrepancy in IFA between hitting and pitching. Still praying for a late Gutierrez(or Bolanos) signing somehow.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

No way he'd fall to 104, would he? (Word is it is PEDs.) He doesn't have a college commitment so there goes his leverage.

 

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Whoa...SS Delvin Perez failed a drug test?! I read that he was falling down draft boards leading up to the big day, but I thought that was due to questionable makeup (I guess a failed drug test confirms that) and an okay hit tool. I mean I've read his physical tools and athleticism are incredible -- Why would he feel the need to take PEDs? I guess the PEDs could improve his overall strength and speed, but that still seems strange to me.

 

Is the possible failed drug test over recreational drug use like marijuana or something? Cause if that's the case I could care less over a failed drug test and would take him. I'm sure other teams would feel the same way. Hmm, I hope we get clarity on his unique status on Thursday.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Whoa...SS Delvin Perez failed a drug test?! I read that he was falling down draft boards leading up to the big day, but I thought that was due to questionable makeup (I guess a failed drug test confirms that) and an okay hit tool. I mean I've read his physical tools and athleticism are incredible -- Why would he feel the need to take PEDs? I guess the PEDs could improve his overall strength and speed, but that still seems strange to me.

 

Is the possible failed drug test over recreational drug use like marijuana or something? Cause if that's the case I could care less over a failed drug test and would take him. I'm sure other teams would feel the same way. Hmm, I hope we get clarity on his unique status on Thursday.

 

BA confirmed it was PEDs.

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Well, I'm conflicted now lol. I'd still probably take him if he were available at #104, but I don't think he'll fall that far down. Some team is gonna get a bargain since he has no leverage. Wish we had a late 1st round pick now...

[stitchface]

Davell wrote:

My guess is 6 college pitchers, 2 HS pitchers, and 2 college position players inside the top 10 rounds, with 2 senior signs......

 

Ah, I think you forgot they don't have a 1st or 2nd round pick this yr buddy lol. Only 8 picks in the first 10 rounds this time...

 

Ha! Geez, I'll take it down to 4 college pitchers. Although, I could AMOST see them using every pick on pitching in this draft, especially with the large discrepancy in IFA between hitting and pitching. Still praying for a late Gutierrez(or Bolanos) signing somehow.

 

 

Curious about the ratio of college to high school pitchers. Wouldn't the Cubs take a more high risk approach drafting in later rounds?

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Stitchface wrote:

Curious about the ratio of college to high school pitchers. Wouldn't the Cubs take a more high risk approach drafting in later rounds?

 

It will be majority college and/or JUCO selections among pitchers. They probably will select maybe 1 or 2 HS pitchers, but not more than that. HS pitching prospects carry more risk, but also a higher reward potentially down the road. However, they also usually carry a higher price tag as well (the highly rated HS pitching prospects, anyway) or have strong commitments to collegiate programs. That's why you'll see the ratio skew more towards the college side.

 

Also, college and JUCO pitching prospects tend to advance through the minors a little bit faster than the HS crop.

 

I wish we could go after the high-risk/high-reward targets, but the Cubs simply don't have a large enough draft pool to afford that strategy this yr. It's too expensive and is a very risky approach if you don't balance it with "safer" high floor draft prospects.

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PetermanRealityTour wrote:

Any Chicago-Area Prospects worth a high pick?

 

Usually like to go to a couple playoff games with the top guys throwing

 

Like TomtheBombadil wrote U of I RHP - C. Sedlock is the highest rated prospect in the draft and is very impressive. I doubt the Cubs will get a chance to draft him since he'll probably go in the 1st round.

 

I believe RHP - Z. Burdi is actually from the Chicago suburbs (I could be wrong?) so he would be the highest rated draft prospect from the Chicago-land area? The HS C - Cooper Johnson is a defensive wizard behind the plate and will most likely be taken in the 2nd round. There is also a RHP - M. Dietz who pitches downstate at a small CC (John A. Logan) who will probably go in rounds 3-4.

 

6-6 guy that throws 96. Could be an interesting pick..

http://thesouthern.com/news/opinion/editorial/hefferman/hefferman-dietz-an-unassuming-pro-prospect-in-your-backyard/article_a840fb80-25c6-5193-b6da-2878a1fb68f5.html