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I thought the backline looked pretty good. Zardes and Wood were about as expected, Clint was the most dangerous attacker but still doesn't look completely comfortable. Bradley played most of the second half like had taken a blow to the head.

 

I'm a Bedoya-hater, but he and Jones really shouldn't be starting in the same 11 against good opposition. They just aren't going to be dangerous enough in the attack, even considering Yedlin and Fab can get forward.

 

How many times were there 2 US players converging on the same spot/ball accidentally?

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Zardes and Wood were about as expected, Clint was the most dangerous attacker but still doesn't look completely comfortable.

Yeah, we've had 125 games of evidence that Clint isn't a lone striker. Especially at 33.

 

Wood is a striker, not a midfielder. Zardes is neither. Columbia's game plan is to cede possession & counter. I'm just not sure why we didn't play with a 4 man midfield and Clint dropping to link with Wood and Nagbe or whoever should've played instead of Zardes.

 

Whatever. We'll get the next 2.

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Zardes and Wood were about as expected, Clint was the most dangerous attacker but still doesn't look completely comfortable.

Yeah, we've had 125 games of evidence that Clint isn't a lone striker. Especially at 33.

 

Wood is a striker, not a midfielder. Zardes is neither. Columbia's game plan is to cede possession & counter. I'm just not sure why we didn't play with a 4 man midfield and Clint dropping to link with Wood and Nagbe or whoever should've played instead of Zardes.

 

Whatever. We'll get the next 2.

 

I'm generally not much for formation talk because in practice it doesn't matter in a lot of cases, but I do kinda wish they'd stop talking about a 4-3-3, and approach more as a 4-2-3-1(or 4-2-1-3), with Bradley/Jones as twin destroyers, Nagbe as CAM, and Pulisic/Zardes as the attacking wingers/forwards around Dempsey. Maybe this is a sore spot because it's almost the exact formation/personnel mismatch the Sounders have been hurting themselves with for most of the season.

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Zardes and Wood were about as expected, Clint was the most dangerous attacker but still doesn't look completely comfortable.

Yeah, we've had 125 games of evidence that Clint isn't a lone striker. Especially at 33.

 

Wood is a striker, not a midfielder. Zardes is neither. Columbia's game plan is to cede possession & counter. I'm just not sure why we didn't play with a 4 man midfield and Clint dropping to link with Wood and Nagbe or whoever should've played instead of Zardes.

 

Whatever. We'll get the next 2.

 

I'm generally not much for formation talk because in practice it doesn't matter in a lot of cases, but I do kinda wish they'd stop talking about a 4-3-3, and approach more as a 4-2-3-1(or 4-2-1-3), with Bradley/Jones as twin destroyers, Nagbe as CAM, and Pulisic/Zardes as the attacking wingers/forwards around Dempsey. Maybe this is a sore spot because it's almost the exact formation/personnel mismatch the Sounders have been hurting themselves with for most of the season.

It's also the Bob Bradley model that Jurgen unfairly doused with gas and lit on fire on ESPN after they were eliminated in 2010.

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Mannnn

 

This Copa must be pouring money into the right places.

http://www.starsandstripesfc.com/2016/6/6/11869352/copa-america--gold-cup-may-merge-one-tournament

ESPN Deportes is reporting that CONMEBOL and CONCACAF are working on making the Copa America a once-every-four-years tournament to be permanently hosted by the United States. MLS Soccer's report speculates this would be a merger of the Copa America and the Gold Cup into one tournament, but the original report on ESPN Deportes just suggests the United States would become the permanent host of the Copa America.

 

Apparently discussions have been ongoing for some time, with a CONCACAF spokesman indicating they were close, according to the ESPN Deportes report.

 

Some factors in negotiations included the United States having the infrastructure to host such a major tourney on a regular basis, and economic issues like timely prize money awards.

 

 

They need our money, we need their credibility. Next step is a full-on confederation merger, travel be damned.

 

Edit - these are terrible ideas. I'd love to have the US be permanent participants, but this is not a good thing.

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Mannnn

 

This Copa must be pouring money into the right places.

http://www.starsandstripesfc.com/2016/6/6/11869352/copa-america--gold-cup-may-merge-one-tournament

ESPN Deportes is reporting that CONMEBOL and CONCACAF are working on making the Copa America a once-every-four-years tournament to be permanently hosted by the United States. MLS Soccer's report speculates this would be a merger of the Copa America and the Gold Cup into one tournament, but the original report on ESPN Deportes just suggests the United States would become the permanent host of the Copa America.

 

Apparently discussions have been ongoing for some time, with a CONCACAF spokesman indicating they were close, according to the ESPN Deportes report.

 

Some factors in negotiations included the United States having the infrastructure to host such a major tourney on a regular basis, and economic issues like timely prize money awards.

 

 

They need our money, we need their credibility. Next step is a full-on confederation merger, travel be damned.

 

Edit - these are terrible ideas. I'd love to have the US be permanent participants, but this is not a good thing.

 

 

1) Instead of 4 tournaments over 3 years (for example Copa/Gold Cup in 2015, Copa/Gold Cup in 2017), you are having 1 tournament over 4 years (Copa America in 2016). I'm sure the Gold Cup doesnt make a ton of money, but does 1 tournament split between 2 confederations really make more money than 2 tournaments per confed?

2) How do they award Confederations spots? I would assume there would still be 1 per confederation, so you couldnt just do 'the 2 finalists' because that could be Brazil vs Argentina or something.

3) Officials in Argentina are really ok with doing away with the old copa and holding their tournament 5000 miles away every single time? How about the poorer countries?

 

Just seems odd. I like things the way they are now but maybe every 20 years do an event like right now.

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1) Instead of 4 tournaments over 3 years (for example Copa/Gold Cup in 2015, Copa/Gold Cup in 2017), you are having 1 tournament over 4 years (Copa America in 2016). I'm sure the Gold Cup doesnt make a ton of money, but does 1 tournament split between 2 confederations really make more money than 2 tournaments per confed?

2) How do they award Confederations spots? I would assume there would still be 1 per confederation, so you couldnt just do 'the 2 finalists' because that could be Brazil vs Argentina or something.

3) Officials in Argentina are really ok with doing away with the old copa and holding their tournament 5000 miles away every single time? How about the poorer countries?

 

Just seems odd. I like things the way they are now but maybe every 20 years do an event like right now.

They can accomplish their goals by working with US Soccer to ensure the MNT is in every Copa. That would bring financial stability and huge media contracts and sponsors.. We can agree to host every few tournaments, or even every tournament when South America can't for logistical or political reasons.

 

Another idea would be to alternate between South America and North America. Have games across the continent. US, Mexico and Canada. Brazil, Argentina, Chile, Uruguay etc.

 

The biggest casualty of just making it a better Gold Cup is the Caribbean countries, smaller Central American countries and Canada being completely marginalized. Also, the incredibly rich history of the traditional format.

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I don't think the US needs to be permanent hosts, but is there a reason why there can't be a 4 year summer tournament cadence like the following?

 

Gold Cup

Copa America

Gold Cup

World Cup

 

It would involve moving the regular timing of either the Gold Cup or Copa America, but they've already done the hard part by doing that to Copa America for the centenario. That solves the Confederations Cup issue and any damage to CONCACAF minnows(and you can increase Copa America to 20 or 24 teams to help with this too, like the Euros).

 

As a fan of the USMNT I'm excited about the possibility of a more regular tournament of this caliber. Gold Cups and World Cup qualification are an exercise in either sending reduced squads or avoiding colossal screw ups, so having a western hemisphere equivalent to the Euros would be terrific.

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I don't think the US needs to be permanent hosts, but is there a reason why there can't be a 4 year summer tournament cadence like the following?

 

Gold Cup

Copa America

Gold Cup

World Cup

This is pretty much Mexico's current schedule but with semi-irregular Copa scheduling. They seem to do just fine with it.

 

 

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