College Football - Bowl Games

[NewUserName]

That targeting call on Bosa....come on

The ejection is too extreme in all cases. I could live with a 15 yd penalty on that play.

 

At the very least, give every player one personal foul without ejecting.

there are cases where the ejection makes sense. I think since they review every play, it would be easy to have 3 options.

[Guest]

That is an easy and obvious ejection. Players aren't going to make the game safer themselves, there's going to be cases where the penalty is severe in order to help break habits and set an example. Don't lead with your head, don't hit people in the head. Bosa wasn't even a victim of circumstance like some targeting calls involving receivers, he didn't have to take a shot at the QB who had already thrown the ball, and he certainly didn't have to hit him with the crown of the helmet.

[jersey cubs fan]

Jerry World is amazing. When I first went there, all I could think of was how that place was gonna be around 2,000 years from now like the Roman Colloseum. It felt like you were walking into a modern Wonder of the World.

 

2000 years? It'll get torn down and replaced in 15 years

Maybe 18

[philosophizer75]

Speaking of awesome football structures, I saw the new vikings stadium in minneapolis that's being built when I was there for thanksgiving. That sucker looks awesome already haha

[philosophizer75]

Meh, I understand the desire to change the game, but ejections should be for things that are malicious in my book. I think giving everyone one strike and then you're out would be fine, unless the hit is obviously a guy head hunting. Still review the penalty, with three possible rulings:

1. No foul

2. 15 yard penalty, one strike to that player (if ruled to be not malicious, which is entirely at the reviewers discretion, I know)

3. Penalty and instant ejection (for obvious head hunting)

[jersey cubs fan]

Meh, I understand the desire to change the game, but ejections should be for things that are malicious in my book. I think giving everyone one strike and then you're out would be fine, unless the hit is obviously a guy head hunting. Still review the penalty, with three possible rulings:

1. No foul

2. 15 yard penalty, one strike to that player (if ruled to be not malicious, which is entirely at the reviewers discretion, I know)

3. Penalty and instant ejection (for obvious head hunting)

you have to legislate that stuff out of the game and the only way is to make penalties extreme. It is very easy to avoid that as a player but guys choose to play a certain way thanks to 90s era ESPN highlights.

[SRQCub]

Meh, I understand the desire to change the game, but ejections should be for things that are malicious in my book. I think giving everyone one strike and then you're out would be fine, unless the hit is obviously a guy head hunting. Still review the penalty, with three possible rulings:

1. No foul

2. 15 yard penalty, one strike to that player (if ruled to be not malicious, which is entirely at the reviewers discretion, I know)

3. Penalty and instant ejection (for obvious head hunting)

you have to legislate that stuff out of the game and the only way is to make penalties extreme. It is very easy to avoid that as a player but guys choose to play a certain way thanks to 90s era ESPN highlights.

 

So, are we going to pretend that football is a game played at a relatively slow pace, and that defensive players aren't trying to use their shoulders to hit fast players who are moving targets?

 

Ejections in 100% of "targeting" cases is a dumb rule. There needs to be common sense applied, and the NCAA has not done that this year.

[philosophizer75]

I mean this isn't the generation where you're gonna see it eliminated. Sure it's easy to not do it, but if you've played a certain way for 10 years, in some situations muscle memory is going to kick in and you're gonna lower your head. I'd expect to see the targeting and crowning start phasing out as kids start coming up who haven't ever had it as a part of the game.

[philosophizer75]

By generation I mean the past couple years and the next 4ish.

[jersey cubs fan]

It is fast and yet it is easy to choose to avoid targeting. Guys never played that way because it looks cool and gets you in highlights to blow people up. So they play reckless and don't care until ejections are made.

[jersey cubs fan]

I mean this isn't the generation where you're gonna see it eliminated. Sure it's easy to not do it, but if you've played a certain way for 10 years, in some situations muscle memory is going to kick in and you're gonna lower your head. I'd expect to see the targeting and crowning start phasing out as kids start coming up who haven't ever had it as a part of the game.

And if you don't make penalties extreme you won't get rid of it in the next generation either. Blame the previous couple generations of no calls at all if you want to blame anybody.

[philosophizer75]

I mean you're not wrong haha, its objectively less effective to try to "jack up" some guy than it is to wrap up and bring him down. I still don't like seeing guys get thrown out because they came in and happened to have their head in the wrong spot, or the receiver ducked at the last second.

 

I complained about it earlier in the thread, but the play where Nebraska's safety, gerry, got ejected in their bowl game had no business being a penalty, let alone an ejection. He came in shoulder first and wrapped up, but his facemask hit the receiver's and he got flagged for targetting.

[NewUserName]

I think Philosophizer's proposal is an extreme penalty. But leaves open the idea that not everything is black and white.

[SRQCub]

Back to football:

 

Northwestern is a joke. Lol at how terrible they are.

 

Same goes for Florida. Treon Harris is just awful. That team may not win 6 games next season. Michigan, OTOH, looks really good. Harbaugh may turn them back into a perennial power.

[Derwood]

Back to football:

 

Northwestern is a joke. Lol at how terrible they are.

 

And homosexual

[philosophizer75]

Yeah, the big ten east is going to be an absolute slugfest for years to come with dantonio's spartans, meyer's buckeyes, and harbaugh's wolverines.

 

Also, I thought northwestern was really overrated at 13th, mostly because of what I think was a flukey win against stanford. They proved it for me today.

[shnsajax]

McCaffrey breaks 100 total yards in less than 3 minutes.

[Andy]

No idea on earth why McCaffrey didn't win the Heisman.

[SRQCub]

Yeah, the big ten east is going to be an absolute slugfest for years to come with dantonio's spartans, meyer's buckeyes, and harbaugh's wolverines.

 

Also, I thought northwestern was really overrated at 13th, mostly because of what I think was a flukey win against stanford. They proved it for me today.

 

Northwestern was hilariously terrible. So is Iowa.

 

Living in ACC/SEC country, I had no idea how awful some of these Big Ten teams were. Very top-heavy conference (much like the ACC.)

[shnsajax]

McCaffrey could have 100 yards rushing, receiving, and kick returns and td's all 3 ways.

[Careless]

Yeah, the big ten east is going to be an absolute slugfest for years to come with dantonio's spartans, meyer's buckeyes, and harbaugh's wolverines.

 

Also, I thought northwestern was really overrated at 13th, mostly because of what I think was a flukey win against stanford. They proved it for me today.

 

Northwestern was hilariously terrible. So is Iowa.

 

Living in ACC/SEC country, I had no idea how awful some of these Big Ten teams were. Very top-heavy conference (much like the ACC.)

Top-heavy? Their top two teams were/are being humiliated.

[SRQCub]

Yeah, the big ten east is going to be an absolute slugfest for years to come with dantonio's spartans, meyer's buckeyes, and harbaugh's wolverines.

 

Also, I thought northwestern was really overrated at 13th, mostly because of what I think was a flukey win against stanford. They proved it for me today.

 

Northwestern was hilariously terrible. So is Iowa.

 

Living in ACC/SEC country, I had no idea how awful some of these Big Ten teams were. Very top-heavy conference (much like the ACC.)

Top-heavy? Their top two teams were/are being humiliated.

 

Very top-heavy. Iowa was the product of a laughably weak schedule and Northwestern was the product of an incredibly lucky early season win over Stanford.

 

Last night notwithstanding, Sparty is a very good football team. Not as good as Alabama, clearly, but still a really good team. OSU is one of the best teams in the country, too. And I think Michigan has been moving in that direction all season. Those 3 could compete in any conference in the country on a week-to-week basis.

 

But those are the only 3 who could. The SEC probably has 5-7 schools who could. The ACC has 2.

[Derwood]

The SEC does not have 5-7 schools that could compete this year

[SRQCub]

The SEC does not have 5-7 schools that could compete this year

 

I disagree.

 

That said, I do think that if Penn State and Nebraska can improve to program-standard levels, the Big Ten is a really solid conference. I think it hurts national perception when schools like Iowa and Northwestern luck their ways into the National spotlight, only to be exposed by good or decent teams.

[Guest]

No idea on earth why McCaffrey didn't win the Heisman.

 

Because the Pac-12 insists on scheduling 75% of their games at 10 p.m. ET.