Friedman to the Dodgers

[Guest]

thank god, kyle has reached the final stage before a full-on freakout and inevitable ban. our long nightmare is nearly over.

 

Really? On a freak-out scale from 1 ("When I first started posting") to 10 ("Post-2008 playoffs"), this is like a 3.5.

 

sometimes i wish you really had defected to the cardinals

[Hairyducked Idiot]

thank god, kyle has reached the final stage before a full-on freakout and inevitable ban. our long nightmare is nearly over.

 

Really? On a freak-out scale from 1 ("When I first started posting") to 10 ("Post-2008 playoffs"), this is like a 3.5.

 

sometimes i wish you really had defected to the cardinals

 

Me too.

[Guest]

just saying that is incriminating

[Hairyducked Idiot]

just saying that is incriminating

 

I probably would have bailed on them after 2010 anyway and become a Brewers fan, anyway.

[Guest]

It's a sliding scale based on resources, state of team, and results. It's funny to me when David railed on the Giants and Royals for being "stupid" when the Giants have a mini-dynasty and the Royals are built just like the Cubs.

 

If one wants to let their own biases affect their judgment to that extent, it ok with me, but self awareness does an opinion good.

[Sammy Sofa]

It's a sliding scale based on resources, state of team, and results. It's funny to me when David railed on the Giants and Royals for being "stupid" when the Giants have a mini-dynasty and the Royals are built just like the Cubs.

 

If one wants to let their own biases affect their judgment to that extent, it ok with me, but self awareness does an opinion good.

 

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[Guest]

It's a sliding scale based on resources, state of team, and results. It's funny to me when David railed on the Giants and Royals for being "stupid" when the Giants have a mini-dynasty and the Royals are built just like the Cubs.

 

If one wants to let their own biases affect their judgment to that extent, it ok with me, but self awareness does an opinion good.

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[Guest]

DAMNIT MOJO

[Guest]

DAMNIT MOJO

Are you saying that because he didn't make sentence to help you form an opinion? Just wait someone will help you.

[Guest]

DAMNIT MOJO

Are you saying that because he didn't make sentence to help you form an opinion? Just wait someone will help you.

 

you are terrible

[Guest]

how does one get to mold young minds while being borderline illiterate?

[Sammy Sofa]

DAMNIT MOJO

Are you saying that because he didn't make sentence to help you form an opinion? Just wait someone will help you.

 

I am assuming this was translated to Japanese and then back to English, right?

 

BUT CUBINNY HAS FANCY PLANS...and pants to match.

[XZero771679666304]

how does one get to mold young minds while being borderline illiterate?

 

Work in the Southeastern U.S.?

[Guest]

how does one get to mold young minds while being borderline illiterate?

I can read fine, I'm busy, so when I type on the iphone I don't worry about spelling that much. I'll match my accomplishments with yours any day.

[Sammy Sofa]

AKA the hccf defense.

[Guest]

how does one get to mold young minds while being borderline illiterate?

I can read fine, I'm busy, so when I type on the iphone I don't worry about spelling that much. I'll match my accomplishments with yours any day.

 

You've been typing on the iphone for 10 years?

[jersey cubs fan]

how does one get to mold young minds while being borderline illiterate?

I can read fine, I'm busy, so when I type on the iphone I don't worry about spelling that much. I'll match my accomplishments with yours any day.

 

You've been typing on the iphone for 10 years?

he used to have one of those hokey internet enabled flip phones back in the day.

[Guest]

AKA the hccf defense.

 

that dude went toe to toe with rattlesnakes though

[Guest]

how does one get to mold young minds while being borderline illiterate?

I can read fine, I'm busy, so when I type on the iphone I don't worry about spelling that much. I'll match my accomplishments with yours any day.

 

You've been typing on the iphone for 10 years?

he used to have one of those hokey internet enabled flip phones back in the day.

 

don't think my mind didn't go there and to the fact that you weren't likely to miss the opportunity

[Guest]

AKA the hccf defense.

It's not a defense of anything, it's an explanation. I fully admit my spelling is not good. I don't feel good about it, and I won't defend it. It's cool if you want to make fun. I have no problem and I own it. Carry on.

[Guest]

AKA the hccf defense.

It's not a defense of anything, it's an explanation. I fully admit my spelling is not good. I don't feel good about it, and I won't defend it. It's cool if you want to make fun. I have no problem and I own it. Carry on.

 

jesus christ. now you've gone and made me feel bad when you were the one being an [expletive] to me first.

[sneakypower]

AKA the hccf defense.

he typed up that post while power [expletive]

[Guest]

AKA the hccf defense.

he typed up that post while power [expletive]

 

hahahahahahahaha

[Hairyducked Idiot]

OK.

 

Here is the list of MLB team-runners (mostly GMs, a few presidents, judgment call, feel free to sub in if you disagree) that I think of as being pretty competent and intelligent.

 

Dan Duquette (Orioles)

Ben Cherington (Red Sox)

Rick Hahn (White Sox)

Walt Jocketty (Reds)

Dan O'Dowd (Rockies)

David Dombroski (Tigers)

Mark Shapiro (Indians)

Jeff Lunhow (Astros)

Sandy Alderson (Mets)

Brian Cashman (Yankees)

Billy Beane (A's)

Neal Huntington (Pirates)

John Mozeliak (Cardinals)

Alex Anthopolous (Blue Jays)

Mike Rizzo (Nationals)

Andrew Friedman (Dodgers)

Theo Epstien (Cubs)

 

Atlanta's probably going to end up with another one. I could easily be convinced to add a few more to the list like Jon Daniels (Texas) or Josh Byrnes (San Diego).

 

A couple of thoughts I'm trying to lead into.

 

1) I'm not sure that there's that much advantage anymore to having a guy on the above list, because almost everyone has one. And even a few of the teams that didn't make that list aren't really all that badly run. The Ed Lynch-level terribles have pretty much all been run out of the league, with no more htan a couple of exceptions. There can't be that many market inefficiencies left, and teams are rising and falling based on other factors far more than the quality of the guy at the top (competitive cycle, finances, variance, quality of the deeper organization).

 

2) I'm not comfortable with how we put guys into tiers inside that group. It seems to be based a lot on superficial factors and the luck of timing. Friedman is considered a no-doubt top-3 because of what he did with the Rays, but he inherited a franchise that had been soaking up top draft picks for a long, long time. They had a really solid six-year run, but the cracks are starting to show. Is that Friedman's fault? David Price (2007) is the last first-round pick they've made to show anything in the majors. Is that Friedman's fault?

 

Friedman's being feted as a no-doubt elite GM because he took the old Golden Generation strategy and stretched it a bit further than Doug Melvin did. Does that really make him better than Sandy Alderson or Dan Duquette? The Dodgers are better off with him than Coletti, but how sure should I be that they're better off with Friedman than Rick Hahn?

 

It feels like there's a bit of a cult of personality going on in how we rank these guys. We want to believe in a certain type of baseball genius (young for an exec, highly educated, uses analytical brilliance to find market inefficiencies, gives great interviews) the same way casual football fans want to believe in the all-American, clean-cut leader of men style of quarterback.

 

Or maybe it's just early in the offseason and I'm bored and being stupid.

[Guest]

just a random thought i had while browsing that list, but did huntington come after or before the pirates were doing that marine style boot camp stupidity?