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Has anyone addressed the fact or taken into consideration that hot dogs are meat and not a combo entity of meat and bread? I still stand by the fact that sandwiches are defined by the inclusion of bread used in a specific fashion, but hot dogs are defined by the meat substance. Replace a hot dog with a bratwurst, but leave it on the same bun, it is no longer a hot dog, it's a bratwurst. Same with any other type of sausage. Even if you find a place that sells turkey based hot dogs, they sell them as Turkey Dogs, not hot dogs.

 

Hot dogs (and similarly shaped concoctions of phallic shaped meat between two buns [

]) are defined by the meat substance, whereas sandwiches are defined by the inclusion of bread used in a specific fashion.

 

Hot dogs are not sandwiches.

 

Replace a ham and cheese with turkey and you have the same issue.

 

Explain. You're still dealing with a sandwich either way; you've just shifted the filler. Replace a hot dog with something else in a hot dog bun and it's no longer a hot dog.

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Has anyone addressed the fact or taken into consideration that hot dogs are meat and not a combo entity of meat and bread? I still stand by the fact that sandwiches are defined by the inclusion of bread used in a specific fashion, but hot dogs are defined by the meat substance. Replace a hot dog with a bratwurst, but leave it on the same bun, it is no longer a hot dog, it's a bratwurst. Same with any other type of sausage. Even if you find a place that sells turkey based hot dogs, they sell them as Turkey Dogs, not hot dogs.

 

Hot dogs (and similarly shaped concoctions of phallic shaped meat between two buns [

]) are defined by the meat substance, whereas sandwiches are defined by the inclusion of bread used in a specific fashion.

 

Hot dogs are not sandwiches.

 

Replace a ham and cheese with turkey and you have the same issue.

 

Explain. You're still dealing with a sandwich either way; you've just shifted the filler. Replace a hot dog with something else in a hot dog bun and it's no longer a hot dog.

 

The only distinction there is the unnecessary choice to refer to a hot dog specifically as a hot dog. If you ask for a hot dog and I say here's your sandwich it's still a hot dog, just like if you ask for a ham and cheese and I say here's your sandwich, it's still a ham and cheese.

 

Have we gotten into the issue of whether you run out of bread but have hot dog buns? I've made peanut butter and jelly, ham and cheese, and all sorts of other things on a hot dog bun due to the hot dog vs hot dog bun packaging differential. Doesn't change what I'm eating.

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Has anyone addressed the fact or taken into consideration that hot dogs are meat and not a combo entity of meat and bread? I still stand by the fact that sandwiches are defined by the inclusion of bread used in a specific fashion, but hot dogs are defined by the meat substance. Replace a hot dog with a bratwurst, but leave it on the same bun, it is no longer a hot dog, it's a bratwurst. Same with any other type of sausage. Even if you find a place that sells turkey based hot dogs, they sell them as Turkey Dogs, not hot dogs.

 

Hot dogs (and similarly shaped concoctions of phallic shaped meat between two buns [

]) are defined by the meat substance, whereas sandwiches are defined by the inclusion of bread used in a specific fashion.

 

Hot dogs are not sandwiches.

 

Replace a ham and cheese with turkey and you have the same issue.

 

Explain. You're still dealing with a sandwich either way; you've just shifted the filler. Replace a hot dog with something else in a hot dog bun and it's no longer a hot dog.

 

The only distinction there is the unnecessary choice to refer to a hot dog specifically as a hot dog. If you ask for a hot dog and I say here's your sandwich it's still a hot dog, just like if you ask for a ham and cheese and I say here's your sandwich, it's still a ham and cheese.

 

Have we gotten into the issue of whether you run out of bread but have hot dog buns? I've made peanut butter and jelly, ham and cheese, and all sorts of other things on a hot dog bun due to the hot dog vs hot dog bun packaging differential. Doesn't change what I'm eating.

 

Of course it does. If you put peanut butter and jelly between two waffles and eat it it's not still a sandwich. You're just eating some bastard mutant creation out of desperation.

 

Again, you ask for a hot dog and someone serves you a hot dog between two slices of bread it's going to seem wrong. You ask for a ham and cheese and it shows up stuffed in a hot dog bun it's going to register as wrong.

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Again, you ask for a hot dog and someone serves you a hot dog between two slices of bread it's going to seem wrong. You ask for a ham and cheese and it shows up stuffed in a hot dog bun it's going to register as wrong.

I don't operate in the world of "seems".

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people are actively making up reasons to say a hot dog isn't a sandwich for some odd reason and it's hilarious
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People like fun, David.

 

People.

 

it is fun

 

almost as fun as the ones in the BP piece

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Is a half rack of ribs served on a piece of white bread in the carry out box an open faced sandwich?

 

No bones allowed

mcrib

 

Is a McRib.

 

McRib Sandwich

 

Do you say "hamburger sandwich?"

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Has anyone addressed the fact or taken into consideration that hot dogs are meat and not a combo entity of meat and bread? I still stand by the fact that sandwiches are defined by the inclusion of bread used in a specific fashion, but hot dogs are defined by the meat substance. Replace a hot dog with a bratwurst, but leave it on the same bun, it is no longer a hot dog, it's a bratwurst. Same with any other type of sausage. Even if you find a place that sells turkey based hot dogs, they sell them as Turkey Dogs, not hot dogs.

 

Hot dogs (and similarly shaped concoctions of phallic shaped meat between two buns [

]) are defined by the meat substance, whereas sandwiches are defined by the inclusion of bread used in a specific fashion.

 

Hot dogs are not sandwiches.

 

Replace a ham and cheese with turkey and you have the same issue.

 

Explain. You're still dealing with a sandwich either way; you've just shifted the filler. Replace a hot dog with something else in a hot dog bun and it's no longer a hot dog.

 

The only distinction there is the unnecessary choice to refer to a hot dog specifically as a hot dog. If you ask for a hot dog and I say here's your sandwich it's still a hot dog, just like if you ask for a ham and cheese and I say here's your sandwich, it's still a ham and cheese.

 

Have we gotten into the issue of whether you run out of bread but have hot dog buns? I've made peanut butter and jelly, ham and cheese, and all sorts of other things on a hot dog bun due to the hot dog vs hot dog bun packaging differential. Doesn't change what I'm eating.

 

Of course it does. If you put peanut butter and jelly between two waffles and eat it it's not still a sandwich. You're just eating some bastard mutant creation out of desperation.

Again, you ask for a hot dog and someone serves you a hot dog between two slices of bread it's going to seem wrong. You ask for a ham and cheese and it shows up stuffed in a hot dog bun it's going to register as wrong.

The hell you say....waffle PB&J sandwiches are awesome.

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Do you say "hamburger sandwich?"

 

just because you dont say it doesnt mean it isn't that

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i don't say BLT sandwich either but it's a fuckin sandwich
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Right; if it was presented to you not on slices of bread it would be wrong.

 

If you go in to a place that advertises itself as a sandwich shop do you expect to be able to get a hot dog or a burger?

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Right; if it was presented to you not on slices of bread it would be wrong.

 

If you go in to a place that advertises itself as a sandwich shop do you expect to be able to get a hot dog or a burger?

 

do i expect to be able to get every possible sandwich in existence?

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Well, you're projecting your unreasonably broad sandwich determination.

 

You go to a burger place you're not expecting sandwiches.

 

You go to a hot dog stand you're not getting sandwiches.

 

Even if one includes burritos, it's not like you can show up at a burrito place and get a ham and cheese burrito or a salami burrito or a BLT burrito or a tuna burrito.

 

They are their own entities. Embrace variety.

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Well, you're projecting your unreasonably broad sandwich determination.

 

You go to a burger place you're not expecting sandwiches.

 

You go to a hot dog stand you're not getting sandwiches.

 

Even if one includes burritos, it's not like you can show up at a burrito place and get a ham and cheese burrito or a salami burrito or a BLT burrito or a tuna burrito.

 

They are their own entities. Embrace variety.

 

What about a grilled cheese place? They exist, therefore a grilled cheese is not a sandwich.

 

 

 

also, most burger joints I know also offer other sandwiches and the only "hot dog" place I would go to would have Italian beefs as well.

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Those are clearly sandwiches, so one would expect to get sandwiches. It's not only that something is singularly defined; it is if it is singularly defined to the point that if you made it like a sandwich it would be made incorrectly.
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Well, you're projecting your unreasonably broad sandwich determination.

 

You go to a burger place you're not expecting sandwiches.

 

You go to a hot dog stand you're not getting sandwiches.

 

Even if one includes burritos, it's not like you can show up at a burrito place and get a ham and cheese burrito or a salami burrito or a BLT burrito or a tuna burrito.

 

They are their own entities. Embrace variety.

 

What about a grilled cheese place? They exist, therefore a grilled cheese is not a sandwich.

 

 

 

also, most burger joints I know also offer other sandwiches and the only "hot dog" place I would go to would have Italian beefs as well.

 

And Italian beef is not a sandwich, and most burger joints I know offered incorrectly named "chicken sandwiches" as alternatives, but those are actually chicken burgers.

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Well, you're projecting your unreasonably broad sandwich determination.

 

You go to a burger place you're not expecting sandwiches.

 

You go to a hot dog stand you're not getting sandwiches.

 

Even if one includes burritos, it's not like you can show up at a burrito place and get a ham and cheese burrito or a salami burrito or a BLT burrito or a tuna burrito.

 

They are their own entities. Embrace variety.

 

What about a grilled cheese place? They exist, therefore a grilled cheese is not a sandwich.

 

 

 

also, most burger joints I know also offer other sandwiches and the only "hot dog" place I would go to would have Italian beefs as well.

 

And Italian beef is not a sandwich, and most burger joints I know offered incorrectly named "chicken sandwiches" as alternatives, but those are actually chicken burgers.

 

WHAT

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And Italian beef is not a sandwich, and most burger joints I know offered incorrectly named "chicken sandwiches" as alternatives, but those are actually chicken burgers.

 

Full Definition of BURGER

 

1

: hamburger

2

: a sandwich similar to a hamburger —often used in combination

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