Minor League Discussion & Boxes 8-9-14

[Guest]

Ah crap, Mike Olt is becoming a thing again among Cubs fans. This is going to be maddening all off-season.

 

I almost want him to get a September call-up just so when he flails again, maybe he'll finally go away as anything other than an 8th infielder stashed in AAA.

 

Mike Olt has the lowest batting average of any non-pitcher with over 250 plate appearances in baseball history. Not that that means much for his trade value or whatever, but just thought it was amazing.

 

Only Olt doesn't even have 250 plate appearances he had 187 this year. Its all together possible that Baez puts up very similar numbers in the same number of plate appearances. Is everyone going to write him off to? I don't think people should be so quick to write him off. Id like to see him back up when the rosters expand and give him another shot.

 

212 this year, 40 with Texas a couple years ago. Again, not using it as justification for what kind of player he is, just showing his historically...unique (for lack of a better word) the start of his major league career has been.

 

His mlb page says 187

 

http://mlb.mlb.com/team/player.jsp?player_id=592609#gameType='R'&sectionType=career&statType=1&season=2014&level='ALL'

Doing this without Kyle trolling you because of your rant from the other day...

 

Plate appearances =/= At Bats. Plate appearances include things like walks, hit by pitch and sacrifice bunts. The MLB page you link just shows AB and not PA. I'd recommend Fangraphs instead.

 

You're just looking at 2014 on the page you link. His career numbers are listed below that in the same table (220 AB's).

[Guest]

Kyle's a dick

[Rob]

Mike Olt has a career .162 BABIP. He's not a guy that should have a high BABIP, but the most recent figure I can find for him suggest his BABIP should be in the .260-.270 range.

 

If we assume his BABIP should be .260 and all the missing hits are singles, his line should look something like .192/.271/.379

 

That still sucks, mind you. But it's basically what Moustakas is doing and I'm sure plenty of you would get excited if we had Moustakas in AAA and he was showing signs of life. He's still an extreme longshot to turn into a productive major leaguer, but his first taste of the bigs wasn't the kiss of death for his potential that some took it as.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Mike Olt has a career .162 BABIP. He's not a guy that should have a high BABIP, but the most recent figure I can find for him suggest his BABIP should be in the .260-.270 range.

 

If we assume his BABIP should be .260 and all the missing hits are singles, his line should look something like .192/.271/.379

 

That still sucks, mind you. But it's basically what Moustakas is doing and I'm sure plenty of you would get excited if we had Moustakas in AAA and he was showing signs of life. He's still an extreme longshot to turn into a productive major leaguer, but his first taste of the bigs wasn't the kiss of death for his potential that some took it as.

 

Sure. That's basically replacement level. I can buy him as a replacement level 1b/3b guy who spends most of his time at Iowa but sometimes appears on the MLB roster.

[Clem Fandango]

As long as they get the tarp on the field, they'll play ball. It's nice and sunny out right now.

tennessee rained out.

 

Yeah, I spoke too soon. Two hours later it was a monsoon

 

Also that tarp smells like the butthole of a rotten catfish

 

This is still accurate, though

[Rob]

Mike Olt has a career .162 BABIP. He's not a guy that should have a high BABIP, but the most recent figure I can find for him suggest his BABIP should be in the .260-.270 range.

 

If we assume his BABIP should be .260 and all the missing hits are singles, his line should look something like .192/.271/.379

 

That still sucks, mind you. But it's basically what Moustakas is doing and I'm sure plenty of you would get excited if we had Moustakas in AAA and he was showing signs of life. He's still an extreme longshot to turn into a productive major leaguer, but his first taste of the bigs wasn't the kiss of death for his potential that some took it as.

 

Sure. That's basically replacement level. I can buy him as a replacement level 1b/3b guy who spends most of his time at Iowa but sometimes appears on the MLB roster.

 

Yeah, pretty much. If we're lucky he has a 1.5 fWAR season off the bench when he gets some positive BABIP variance, only to see Cubs fans cry in agony when Theo and Hoyer flip him for something more useful.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I really, really hope 2015 is the year we put guys like Olt in their proper role and fill out the roster above them with competent players. No more "well, let's give him 200 MLB PAs because who cares if we win or lose?"

[imb]

Only Olt doesn't even have 250 plate appearances he had 187 this year. Its all together possible that Baez puts up very similar numbers in the same number of plate appearances. Is everyone going to write him off to? I don't think people should be so quick to write him off. Id like to see him back up when the rosters expand and give him another shot.

 

1) Mike Olt appeared in the major leagues before this year

 

2) Plate appearances are not the same thing as at-bats

 

3) Age matters

 

4) You're dumb

 

#4 was totally uncalled for.

 

He said "no offense"

[Guest]

Kyle, you can't complain every time someone possibly insults you and then turn around and call someone else dumb.

[Vinestal]

Oops wrong thread

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Kyle, you can't complain every time someone possibly insults you and then turn around and call someone else dumb.

 

I assumed it was OK because that rule has never seemed to be enforced. But Tim said it wasn't OK so I removed the offending sentence and spent an appropriate amount of time in silent contrition in a penalty box of my own construction. The bench in the box is unpadded.

 

On-topic if anyone sees new posts and opens the thread:

 

Armando Rivero at Iowa: 21.1 IP, 10 BB, 1 HR, 32 K. He's going to be Marmol 2.0