Breaking news: Core Four now Future Five

[Sammy Sofa]

Boy it really does make an absurd amount of sense to make Giancarlo Stanton: Chicago Cub a thing.

 

I have a hard time seeing a deal.

 

I really hope not, because that means they've fallen too in love with their own prospects and they want their "all homegrown team" video game thing. Things could not be more perfectly set up to get a player like Stanton and still have a strong farm system.

[Clem Fandango]

Boy it really does make an absurd amount of sense to make Giancarlo Stanton: Chicago Cub a thing.

 

I have a hard time seeing a deal.

 

I feel the opposite. I think the only reason a deal can't get done is because either the Cubs are content with what they have (which wouldn't upset me, I like what we got here) or the Marlins, for whatever reason, want to hold onto him until the trade deadline and pray they can work out an extension before moving him, but it's pretty obvious Stanton has no interest in staying in Miami, and I think he'll let that be known to the team this offseason and then he'll hit the market. And if/when that happens I think the Cubs go shopping. And if other teams do, they won't be able to match what the Cubs can offer.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Boy it really does make an absurd amount of sense to make Giancarlo Stanton: Chicago Cub a thing.

 

I have a hard time seeing a deal.

 

I feel the opposite. I think the only reason a deal can't get done is because either the Cubs are content with what they have (which wouldn't upset me, I like what we got here) or the Marlins, for whatever reason, want to hold onto him until the trade deadline and pray they can work out an extension before moving him, but it's pretty obvious Stanton has no interest in staying in Miami, and I think he'll let that be known to the team this offseason and then he'll hit the market. And if/when that happens I think the Cubs go shopping. And if other teams do, they won't be able to match what the Cubs can offer.

 

There are fans of at least 15 teams writing the same thing right now, I guarantee it.

[Clem Fandango]

Boy it really does make an absurd amount of sense to make Giancarlo Stanton: Chicago Cub a thing.

 

I have a hard time seeing a deal.

 

I feel the opposite. I think the only reason a deal can't get done is because either the Cubs are content with what they have (which wouldn't upset me, I like what we got here) or the Marlins, for whatever reason, want to hold onto him until the trade deadline and pray they can work out an extension before moving him, but it's pretty obvious Stanton has no interest in staying in Miami, and I think he'll let that be known to the team this offseason and then he'll hit the market. And if/when that happens I think the Cubs go shopping. And if other teams do, they won't be able to match what the Cubs can offer.

 

There are fans of at least 15 teams writing the same thing right now, I guarantee it.

 

About the Cubs? I agree.

 

To be fair, if the Cubs didn't add Russell I think trading for Stanton becomes a moot point and doesn't happen.

Edited July 9, 2014 by The Logan

[jersey cubs fan]

Boy it really does make an absurd amount of sense to make Giancarlo Stanton: Chicago Cub a thing.

 

I have a hard time seeing a deal.

 

I feel the opposite. I think the only reason a deal can't get done is because either the Cubs are content with what they have (which wouldn't upset me, I like what we got here) or the Marlins, for whatever reason, want to hold onto him until the trade deadline and pray they can work out an extension before moving him, but it's pretty obvious Stanton has no interest in staying in Miami, and I think he'll let that be known to the team this offseason and then he'll hit the market. And if/when that happens I think the Cubs go shopping. And if other teams do, they won't be able to match what the Cubs can offer.

 

There are fans of at least 15 teams writing the same thing right now, I guarantee it.

 

They can write it but it doesn't make it true.

[Guest]

I assume other teams have young MLB assets to trade for Stanton. You aren't limited to trading guys who are still eligible for the prospect lists.

 

And also mitigating the benefit of trading for Stanton.

 

I don't see the difference. The Cubs need their prospects to fill in all the massive holes on the MLB team just as much as other teams need their young MLB players to stay and not create Cubs-sized holes on the roster.

 

The Cubs could conceivably graduate 5 top 50 caliber hitters in the next calendar year, (for example) using 2 of them as part of a package to perma-fix one of those holes is not the same as trading a guy already providing value at the MLB level to get Stanton. It's trading lack of certainty for money instead of shuffling value at the MLB level. It all comes down to the details for *how big* a difference that is, but that's one of the reasons the Cubs make so much sense in the abstract.

[Sammy Sofa]

Boy it really does make an absurd amount of sense to make Giancarlo Stanton: Chicago Cub a thing.

 

I have a hard time seeing a deal.

 

I feel the opposite. I think the only reason a deal can't get done is because either the Cubs are content with what they have (which wouldn't upset me, I like what we got here) or the Marlins, for whatever reason, want to hold onto him until the trade deadline and pray they can work out an extension before moving him, but it's pretty obvious Stanton has no interest in staying in Miami, and I think he'll let that be known to the team this offseason and then he'll hit the market. And if/when that happens I think the Cubs go shopping. And if other teams do, they won't be able to match what the Cubs can offer.

 

There are fans of at least 15 teams writing the same thing right now, I guarantee it.

 

So what? There's maybe one of them that could outdo what the Cubs could offer if they were serious.

[Clem Fandango]

It's gonna happen. I'm gonna will it to happen.

 

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[Sammy Sofa]

It's pretty [expletive] exciting to finally have guys destroying leagues, especially at higher levels. I can't see what is anticlimactic about that.

 

It's anticlimactic for some of us because we want to see these guys impacting the Cubs, either via trades or playing on the team, as quickly as possible. Knowing that the rest of this season and the first few weeks of next year are just playing the waiting game is frustrating. I'm not begrudging anyone for loving minor league ball and I'm not looking to clutter up the rest of the minor league forum, but stuff like "Core Fore" and "Future Five," just emphasizes, to me, how much waiting is still left and how it's been a pretty [expletive] run to get there. I can't wait to see some of these guys kick ass or be traded for players that kick ass, but wait we must.

 

Obviously I concur with your general sentiment but I don't get the anticlimactic angle.

 

I guess it will be anticlimactic when they finally do call people up, because even then it will just be more waiting for them to adjust and probably a couple seasons of falling short of contention. Is that what you mean?

 

Sort of; more just bad word choice on my part. Part of it is I'm wary of how they construct the big league team around these kids and that this is going to be a prolonged process as guys come up at different times and many of them struggle and some don't pan out. I'm optimistic for the long run, but it feels like we're still definitely in the "long" part.

[Guest]

Right or wrong, I liken Almora to Starlin quite a bit. Very good hit tool, lots of projection in the body. I know it's far from a great comp, but it's still how I look at him. Different regimes too, it's possible Almora could be in AA right now under a different group, just based on his AFL last year.

 

I get why most are down on him, but I'm undeterred as of yet and still suspect he's going to be a hell of a CF for us, hitting around .280-.300, 15ish HR, with solid to better D.

 

When Castro was Almora's age, wasn't he raking in the majors and not just getting hot mid-season in A+?

 

Sure. He hit his breakout year during his age 20 year. It's why it's not a perfect comp obviously, but it's not out of the realm Almora hits his next year at 21.

 

It just goes to show how great Castro bat-on-ball hit tool is, and that's supposed to be Almora's greatest strength with the bat.

[Guest]

I assume other teams have young MLB assets to trade for Stanton. You aren't limited to trading guys who are still eligible for the prospect lists.

 

And also mitigating the benefit of trading for Stanton.

Cards, headlined by Taveras.

[Clem Fandango]

I assume other teams have young MLB assets to trade for Stanton. You aren't limited to trading guys who are still eligible for the prospect lists.

 

And also mitigating the benefit of trading for Stanton.

Cards, headlined by Taveras.

 

I hope they do offer that, it will give the Cubs the incentive to one up them