6/26 Nationals (Fister) @ Cubs (Wood) 7:05PM CSN

[Shilzzz]

so, remember when signing pujols as a free agent was a thing?

.933 OPS, .403 wOBA, 155 wRC+

.795 OPS, .339 wOBA, 119 wRC+

 

thank you, based theo

[Sammy Sofa]

Well, sure, if you don't sign ANY FA of note it's pretty easy to pat yourself on the back for the ones that don't pan out.

[Shilzzz]

rizzo is the sects is all i'm saying

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

be more glad they didn't sign BJ Upton

[Guest]

Well, sure, if you don't sign ANY FA of note it's pretty easy to pat yourself on the back for the ones that don't pan out.

 

It really seems like almost none of the big ones pan out anymore. I know that's not the case, but damn if there haven't been a lot of massive busts on huge contracts lately.

[Sammy Sofa]

Well, sure, if you don't sign ANY FA of note it's pretty easy to pat yourself on the back for the ones that don't pan out.

 

It really seems like almost none of the big ones pan out anymore. I know that's not the case, but damn if there haven't been a lot of massive busts on huge contracts lately.

 

This is true. But there's this meme that pops up every so often where people act like the FO skillfully avoided some anchor contracts when really they simply just didn't have/didn't spend the money.

[Shilzzz]

lulz @ 41m/7 + two option years in 2020/21

[Shilzzz]

Well, sure, if you don't sign ANY FA of note it's pretty easy to pat yourself on the back for the ones that don't pan out.

 

It really seems like almost none of the big ones pan out anymore. I know that's not the case, but damn if there haven't been a lot of massive busts on huge contracts lately.

 

This is true. But there's this meme that pops up every so often where people act like the FO skillfully avoided some anchor contracts when really they simply just didn't have/didn't spend the money.

 

i would argue that in obtaining/locking up rizzo that that is definitively skillful.

[Sammy Sofa]

Well, sure, if you don't sign ANY FA of note it's pretty easy to pat yourself on the back for the ones that don't pan out.

 

It really seems like almost none of the big ones pan out anymore. I know that's not the case, but damn if there haven't been a lot of massive busts on huge contracts lately.

 

This is true. But there's this meme that pops up every so often where people act like the FO skillfully avoided some anchor contracts when really they simply just didn't have/didn't spend the money.

 

i would argue that in obtaining/locking up rizzo that that is definitively skillful.

 

So what? The main reason they've skipped out on any big FA signings is because they didn't have the money to do so; you really think that if Ricketts had said "OK, you can spend whatever you need" they would have just ignored guys like Fielder or Pujols or Upton?

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Wasn't there a rumor we offered Pujols 5/$150m?

[mul21]

My MLB.tv keeps stalling on 33% buffer. Anyone had this problem or know how to fix it? Running Chrome. Did a search, tried some of those solutions and tried turning my adblockers off, no luck.

 

Mine usually pauses there for a bit using Firefox but then loads fine. My laptop is crap though and I'd honestly recommend spending $100 on a BluRay that has the app on it. It's a much better option and the HD picture is great on my big screen. It's a bit darker than a normal broadcast, but really high quality.

[Shilzzz]

Well, sure, if you don't sign ANY FA of note it's pretty easy to pat yourself on the back for the ones that don't pan out.

 

It really seems like almost none of the big ones pan out anymore. I know that's not the case, but damn if there haven't been a lot of massive busts on huge contracts lately.

 

This is true. But there's this meme that pops up every so often where people act like the FO skillfully avoided some anchor contracts when really they simply just didn't have/didn't spend the money.

 

i would argue that in obtaining/locking up rizzo that that is definitively skillful.

 

So what? The main reason they've skipped out on any big FA signings is because they didn't have the money to do so; you really think that if Ricketts had said "OK, you can spend whatever you need" they would have just ignored guys like Fielder or Pujols or Upton?

 

the so what was contained in whether or not the moves they made (or didn't make, by proxy) were (or were not) skillful. they've bid high on players like tanaka. they did a better job by trading for, then locking up rizzo through what should be his peak years; and i don't think the current front office ignores any option, though that is opinion. i still doubt they would have signed fielder or pujols. either upton is not a concern in this conversation, which is based on filling a need at first base long term.

[Sammy Sofa]

Wasn't there a rumor we offered Pujols 5/$150m?

 

The Cubs were reported to be after both with big money/shorter term deals, as per Brett back when I still read BR.

Edited June 27, 2014 by Sammy Sofa

[Sammy Sofa]

the so what was contained in whether or not the moves they made (or didn't make, by proxy) were (or were not) skillful. they've bid high on players like tanaka. they did a better job by trading for, then locking up rizzo through what should be his peak years; and i don't think the current front office ignores any option, though that is opinion. i still doubt they would have signed fielder or pujols. either upton is not a concern in this conversation, which is based on filling a need at first base long term.

 

I sincerely doubt their plan the whole time was simply to bank on Rizzo. That's what it ended up being.

[treebird]

things like signing rizzo to his deal are things every team would have done (or at least attempted).

 

theo et al can have lots of credit for trading for rizzo.

[Shilzzz]

end of the day at least there are a couple very good young players to watch play baseball every day until the supposed pennant chases of the future come around. it's a delight to watch rizzo take his plate appearances.

[Guest]

hahahaha i knew that would happen eventually

[Sammy Sofa]

things like signing rizzo to his deal are things every team would have done (or at least attempted).

 

theo et al can have lots of credit for trading for rizzo.

 

Sure, but it shouldn't an either/or thing with big contracts; people bizarrely want to give them credit for things they basically ended up being forced to do or not do based on the circumstances of the various Ricketts debacles. The Cubs supposedly really wanted Fielder, so it's not like they were just throwing up sneaky smokescreens to cover their desire to pick up a guy that they had drafted and then basically traded to themselves twice over. And who are we really even laughing at? Oh man, those stupid 44-33 Angels. Oh gee, the Rangers suck this year after 6 straight years of finishing 1st or 2nd and having their gazillion dollar TV deal.

Edited June 27, 2014 by Sammy Sofa

[Schwarber Fan]

Nats announcers demanding they delay the game because of that...

[mul21]

Nats announcers demanding they delay the game because of that...

 

It's really not an unreasonable thought from an injury standpoint.

[Guest]

Is Gameday right, did the Nats just let Fister hit in the 7th with 102 pitches and 2 on when down 2?

[Shilzzz]

what the hell is going on in the game?

gameday said there was a triple, then a walk.

then a walk, then a sacrifice bunt instead...

[mul21]

Is Gameday right, did the Nats just let Fister hit in the 7th with 102 pitches and 2 on when down 2?

 

Yep, went up to bunt.

[Schwarber Fan]

Another great call by Carpenter: "there it goes!"

[Schwarber Fan]

what the hell is going on in the game?

gameday said there was a triple, then a walk.

then a walk, then a sacrifice bunt instead...

 

Assuming it's going to get even more confused now, Span just hit a 2 run double to tie the game and was thrown out between 2nd and 3rd.