2014 Winter Olympics (Beware, no spoiler tags)

[jersey cubs fan]

How would Soldier Field being open negatively affect their ability to host an olympics?

[ConstableRabbit]

Yeah I mean, it's held the opening ceremony of the World Cup for God's sake...

 

The point I was making was that a lot of cities don't even have stadiums, let alone ones that are "dumps."

[Sammy Sofa]

How would Soldier Field being open negatively affect their ability to host an olympics?

 

Not having a major stadium available that has a roof, retractable or otherwise. I mean, that's just stupid for the Bears alone.

[Sammy Sofa]

Yeah I mean, it's held the opening ceremony of the World Cup for God's sake...

 

The point I was making was that a lot of cities don't even have stadiums, let alone ones that are "dumps."

 

Well, the World Cup was spread out across the country, so it's not really a direct comparison to hosting the Olympics.

[jersey cubs fan]

How would Soldier Field being open negatively affect their ability to host an olympics?

 

Not having a major stadium available that has a roof, retractable or otherwise. I mean, that's just stupid for the Bears alone.

 

That's just dumb.

[WrigleyField 22]

The problem with open is that the IOC rules required a certain amount that's covered for dignitaries. That and it had capacity issues.

 

That was a big reason for the semi-temporary Olympic stadium in Washington Park. That was actually helpful to Chicago's technical bid, but that of course didn't matter. The only serious permanent structures was going to be the Olympic village.

[Sammy Sofa]

How would Soldier Field being open negatively affect their ability to host an olympics?

 

Not having a major stadium available that has a roof, retractable or otherwise. I mean, that's just stupid for the Bears alone.

 

That's just dumb.

 

It's the Olympics' rules, not mine.

 

Personally, I wish both Soldier Field and Wrigley had retractable roofs just for my own enjoyment.

[Guest]

Too early to start a 2016 thread, but:

 

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/apr/29/rio-2016-olympics-worst-preparations-ioc

 

i have to laugh, knowing that Chicago was going to win if it made it out of the first round of voting. Rio is like a third world country and there was a conspiracy to keep the Americans out.

[Sammy Sofa]

Too early to start a 2016 thread, but:

 

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/apr/29/rio-2016-olympics-worst-preparations-ioc

 

i have to laugh, knowing that Chicago was going to win if it made it out of the first round of voting. Rio is like a third world country and there was a conspiracy to keep the Americans out.

 

Oh please do go on.

[WrigleyField 22]

Chicago already had their version of the Olympics and we're still benefitting from much of it over a hundred years later, so I'm okay missing the headache of a current Olympic Games, despite how once in a lifetime experience it would have been, and any of the upgraded amenities it would have meant. Edited May 2, 2014 by WrigleyField 22

[ConstableRabbit]

Too early to start a 2016 thread, but:

 

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/apr/29/rio-2016-olympics-worst-preparations-ioc

 

i have to laugh, knowing that Chicago was going to win if it made it out of the first round of voting. Rio is like a third world country and there was a conspiracy to keep the Americans out.

 

Oh please do go on.

"It was clear there was an effort to make sure Rio got this, and the only meaningful threat to Rio would have been Chicago, so all the friends of Rio were urged to try and make sure Chicago didn't get into that position," IOC member Dick Pound of Canada said.

 

"Conspiracy" is kind of a loaded term, but it's naive to think that Chicago wasn't targeted by voting blocs early on. The IOC and US have had a pretty strained relationship, so it's safe to say that few tears were shed.

 

Source: http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/olympics/2009-10-02-2016-olympics_N.htm

[Sammy Sofa]

Too early to start a 2016 thread, but:

 

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/apr/29/rio-2016-olympics-worst-preparations-ioc

 

i have to laugh, knowing that Chicago was going to win if it made it out of the first round of voting. Rio is like a third world country and there was a conspiracy to keep the Americans out.

 

Oh please do go on.

"It was clear there was an effort to make sure Rio got this, and the only meaningful threat to Rio would have been Chicago, so all the friends of Rio were urged to try and make sure Chicago didn't get into that position," IOC member Dick Pound of Canada said.

 

"Conspiracy" is kind of a loaded term, but it's naive to think that Chicago wasn't targeted by voting blocs early on. The IOC and US have had a pretty strained relationship, so it's safe to say that few tears were shed.

 

Source: http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/olympics/2009-10-02-2016-olympics_N.htm

 

Well, yeah, that's just the Olympic politics stuff that everyone knew already; I was hoping for a juicy sulley-style conspiracy rant.

[Sammy Sofa]

Chicago already had their version of the Olympics and we're still benefitting from much of it over a hundred years later, so I'm okay missing the headache of a current Olympic Games, despite how once in a lifetime experience it would have been, and any of the upgraded am entities it would gave meant.

 

The World's Fair?

[jersey cubs fan]

Chicago already had their version of the Olympics and we're still benefitting from much of it over a hundred years later, so I'm okay missing the headache of a current Olympic Games, despite how once in a lifetime experience it would have been, and any of the upgraded am entities it would gave meant.

 

The World's Fair?

The opening of Weeghman Park, stupid.

[WrigleyField 22]

Yea conspiracy is definitely a bit much, but the deck was stacked and the technicality of the bids didn't mean much. That being said, pro Rio was a big part of it, not just anti-American sentiment. Whoever the other two cities were didn't stand much of a chance either, they were just saved the embarrassment of a first round exit. No one would cry conspiracy if Chicago didn't get humiliated.

[WrigleyField 22]

Chicago already had their version of the Olympics and we're still benefitting from much of it over a hundred years later, so I'm okay missing the headache of a current Olympic Games, despite how once in a lifetime experience it would have been, and any of the upgraded am entities it would gave meant.

 

The World's Fair?

Yea, and the planning/implementing of it went a lot like Rio now.

[jersey cubs fan]

I don't think conspiracy is all that strong of a word for describing what happened.

[WrigleyField 22]

I don't think conspiracy is all that strong of a word for describing what happened.

Implies more of a cover up IMO.

[Sammy Sofa]

Chicago already had their version of the Olympics and we're still benefitting from much of it over a hundred years later, so I'm okay missing the headache of a current Olympic Games, despite how once in a lifetime experience it would have been, and any of the upgraded am entities it would gave meant.

 

The World's Fair?

Yea, and the planning/implementing of it went a lot like Rio now.

 

Is there really much left from it? I thought there's basically a museum and parks and that's it. People involved in it were also big movers and shakers when it came to the city's planning and architecture before and after, but it's kind of a stretch to say that Chicago has "much" of the actual Fair left at this point.

[Guest]

Chicago already had their version of the Olympics and we're still benefitting from much of it over a hundred years later, so I'm okay missing the headache of a current Olympic Games, despite how once in a lifetime experience it would have been, and any of the upgraded am entities it would gave meant.

 

The World's Fair?

Yea, and the planning/implementing of it went a lot like Rio now.

 

Is there really much left from it? I thought there's basically a museum and parks and that's it. People involved in it were also big movers and shakers when it came to the city's planning and architecture before and after, but it's kind of a stretch to say that Chicago has "much" of the actual Fair left at this point.

 

I think he means benefiting insofar as it helped give Chicago recognition or something (and subsequently become what it is now).

[Sammy Sofa]

Chicago already had their version of the Olympics and we're still benefitting from much of it over a hundred years later, so I'm okay missing the headache of a current Olympic Games, despite how once in a lifetime experience it would have been, and any of the upgraded am entities it would gave meant.

 

The World's Fair?

Yea, and the planning/implementing of it went a lot like Rio now.

 

Is there really much left from it? I thought there's basically a museum and parks and that's it. People involved in it were also big movers and shakers when it came to the city's planning and architecture before and after, but it's kind of a stretch to say that Chicago has "much" of the actual Fair left at this point.

 

I think he means benefiting insofar as it helped give Chicago recognition or something (and subsequently become what it is now).

 

Ah, gotcha.

[WrigleyField 22]

Also Cracker Jack and PBR.

 

But more generally than the two buildings and parks that still stand, it had further reaching influence of city planning in Chicago that occurred afterwards. It wasn't just an event in its own but ushered a greater movement, not to mention what it did for putting Chicago on the map.

[Sammy Sofa]

Well, it was more that it gave the right people the clout/backing to put into effect a city plan that was being proposed before the Fair, but yes, the young city obviously benefited from the attention it brought.

[WrigleyField 22]

Do we still need a big event like the Olympics to usher in new city planning today? Rahm doesn't want the Olympics and hilariously is angling for a Super Bowl. Soldier Field needs to be regutted IMO to be a serious SB site, so our efforts should probably go elsewhere.

 

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[Guest]

It's a shame about that maniac and his kill motel, though.