weird league keeper trouble

[imb]

Im in a long running fantasy league that lets you keep 2 players each offseason. The league has a weird roster breakdown and I'm really confused on which two players to keep.

 

The details: It's a 10-man league. You start 2 QBs, 2 RBs, 1 TE and 3 TE/WR each week. With 10 teams, you almost have to have two good starting QBs to compete.

 

Here's my options

Cam Newton, Matthew Stafford, Colin Kaepernick

CJ Spiller, Trent Richardson

WILDCARD Jimmy Graham

 

My plan early in the offseason was to keep Cam and Spiller, thinking that you almost have to keep a QB to ensure you get two strong ones. And Spiller should have a monster year, and obviously having at least one stud RB is a huge help with how depleted RB is this year.

 

But after a few mocks, it seems like if you don't take 2 RBs with your first two picks, you end up with a [expletive] show at the position. You almost have to have a late first round pick to ensure you get a good RB2 on the snake. It's a mess.

 

So now I don't know what to do - my first instinct is to stick with the cam, spiller idea (I won last year so I have the last pick of the first round and should be able to get a good QB2) and just hope to hit on a RB late.

[Guest]

I'm typically of the mind that you shouldn't value RBs at all(nearly half of last year's Top 20 weren't in the preseason Top 20), but QBs are real deep this year. Stafford and Kaepernick would both be really good QB2s, but the difference between them and someone like Flacco, Dalton, or Cutler may not match the difference between Spiller and someone like Eddie Lacy.

[imb]

I'm typically of the mind that you shouldn't value RBs at all(nearly half of last year's Top 20 weren't in the preseason Top 20), but QBs are real deep this year. Stafford and Kaepernick would both be really good QB2s, but the difference between them and someone like Flacco, Dalton, or Cutler may not match the difference between Spiller and someone like Eddie Lacy.

 

I have no idea if any of those Lacy-tier backs are worth anything. Is David Wilson the starter in NY? Lacy might be third string for christ's sake. Daryl Richardson of the Rams? Is Deangelo Williams worth a [expletive]? There's like 7 RBs I like and then a bunch of turds out there

[CubColtPacer]

I don't think you need to worry about your 2nd RB. When you need to start 3 WR and 2 QB, both those positions become a lot less deep. And with RB being the most injury prone position, I'd take Cam and Spiller and not worry about drafting any RB's for several rounds unless someone is simply a tremendous value. You can load up on lottery ticket RB's later in the draft, maybe grab a Richardson/Hillman just to start the season with, and hope somebody emerges or gets thrust into a starting role.

 

I'd use the first few rounds on WR's and a QB. Probably even WR first since you already have a top 12 QB (again, unless one is a great value), and then pick up a couple upside QB's later in the draft. You could argue there are 20-22 startable QB's in this sort of league, so I don't think you'll have to be desperate for one.

[imb]

Here's an obsessive "im bored on Saturday" update for you. I think team 2 is FAR superior to either team one or team three.

 

I ran three different projections, changing up my keepers each time (and projecting the other 9 teams's keepers) and this is what I ended up with

 

Scenario 1: Keeping Cam/Spiller

This played out interestingly, because despite keeping both an elite QB and an elite RB, I feel like my depth at both positions sucks. ESPN projected this team to finish in third.

QB: Cam

QB: Palmer

RB: Spiller

RB: Reggie Bush

TE: Jordan Cameron

WR/TE: Brandon Marshall

WR/TE: Randall Cobb

WR/TE: Victor Cruz

QB3: Bradford

RB3: Daryl Richardson

RB4: Michael Bush

WR4: Torrey Smith

WR5: Tavon Austin

 

Scenario 2: Keeping Spiller/Richardson

I end up with the same WR group, bland QBs, but pretty elite RBs. ESPN projected this team to finish in first.

QB: Eli

QB: Dalton

RB: Spiller

RB: Richardson

TE: Housler

WR/TE: Brandon Marshall

WR/TE: Randall Cobb

WR/TE: Cruz

QB3: Bradford

RB3: Sproles

RB4: Daryl Richardson

WR4: Decker

WR5: Kenny Britt

 

Scenario 3: Keeping Cam/Kaepernick.

In this scenario, I don’t have to worry about QBs at all until the late rounds, and can focus on RB/RB early or RB/WR. ESPN projects this team to finish in 2nd place.

QB: Cam

QB: Kaepernick

RB: Forte

RB: Reggie Bush

TE: Jordan Cameron

WR/TE: Brandon Marshall

WR/TE: Randall Cobb

WR/TE: Victor Cruz

QB3: Bradford

RB3: Daryl Richardson

RB4: Michael Bush

WR4: Torrey Smith

WR5: Tavon Austin

[rawaction]

Yeah, keep Cam and Spiller for all the reasons stated.

[Sammy Sofa]

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[imb]

Yeah, keep Cam and Spiller for all the reasons stated.

 

You don't think im kind of marginalizing both positions by not just committing to one? I can't shake the idea that I could have a dominant run game+at least an average QB roster vs. an average run game and slightly above average QB roster (or great QBs+abysmal RBs)

[rawaction]

What kind of league is this (type of scoring)? Most 2 QB leagues, u are going to be better if u have 1 good one. With teams needing 2, they will go early, and u could get stuck in a hurry. Cam and CJ give u a top 5 at each position. Keep both RBs....your only other option...and u need to go QB very early, perhaps reaching.

[imb]

What kind of league is this (type of scoring)? Most 2 QB leagues, u are going to be better if u have 1 good one. With teams needing 2, they will go early, and u could get stuck in a hurry. Cam and CJ give u a top 5 at each position. Keep both RBs....your only other option...and u need to go QB very early, perhaps reaching.

 

It's regular scoring, just a weird roster setup.

 

Here's my guess at how teams will do their keepers/what qbs will be available by my pick (10th round 1, 1st round 2)

 

1: Russell Wilson, Adrian Peterson

2: RG3, Andrew Luck

3: Aaron Rodgers, Marshawn Lynch

4: Drew Brees, Jamaal Charles

5: Matt Ryan, Lesean McCoy

6: Ray Rice, Dez

7: Peyton, AJ Green

8: Arian Foster, Flacco

9: Brady, Calvin Johnson

 

So, assuming I keep Spiller and Richardson, these QBs will be available in the draft.

 

1: Russell Wilson, Adrian Peterson

2: RG3, Andrew Luck (Alfred Morris is a possibility)

3: Aaron Rodgers, Marshawn Lynch

4: Drew Brees, Jamaal Charles

5: Matt Ryan, Lesean McCoy

6: Ray Rice, Dez

7: Peyton, AJ Green

8: Arian Foster, Flacco

9: Brady, Calvin Johnson/or Doug Martin

 

Newton, Kaepernick, Stafford, Romo, Manning, Roethlisberger, Vick, Dalton, Rivers, Bradford, Palmer, Schaub, Cutler, Alex Smith, Tannehill, Freeman.

 

If everyone takes a QB in the first round (which I don’t think has ever happened) I end up with Carson Palmer and Schaub (ok im starting to agree with you.) I’m sure that Morris/whichever one of Megatron and Martin isn’t kept, will go in the first round, which would leave Dalton, Rivers and Bradford available for me to take.

 

Ehh, I think you’re right. It’s probably worth it on the offchance I can end up with Cam, Spiller, Martin/Morris/Johnson, one of the remaining QBs.

[Guest]

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Awesome.

[mul21]

What's the list of RB available at your spot with those keepers? That 2nd list looks good to me, but with that many points being put up by QBs, it's tough to leave yourself that few options when you have to start 2.

 

Is it PPR? Do all QB TDs count for 6?