2013 NHL Playoff Thread

[cubbyvirus00]

Didn't see one devoted to the playoffs so here it is.

 

 

Looks like Luongo is starting for the Canucks tonight in Game 1 due to the 'body' injury to Schnieder.

 

Also Kesler did not skate this morning.

[biittner77]

Crosby is a game time decision for the Pens. My guess is he doesn't play until the Pens either lose a game or are up 3-0

[Soul]

Mwahahah. Luongo getting bitchslapped by SJ.

[biittner77]

So much for the Isles giving the Pens a series.

 

Hopefully tonight's games will be better. I expect The Sens to beat the Habs. I'm intrigued to see what will happen with the Caps/ Rangers.

[Banedon]

I didn't watch the whole game, but that first period of the Blues/Kings was a slugfest. They were more worried about hitting each other than were about doing anything with the puck.

 

Was pretty funny watching a wireless mic get confused for the puck though.

[biittner77]

I didn't watch the whole game, but that first period of the Blues/Kings was a slugfest. They were more worried about hitting each other than were about doing anything with the puck.

 

Was pretty funny watching a wireless mic get confused for the puck though.

 

I hope it stays that way and the series goes 7 games.

 

I'm torn between my hatred of the Canadiens and wanting to see a Bruins-Pens match up in round 2. Of course, the last thing anyone wants is a Caps-Pens ECF so go Ottawa.

[Banedon]

I didn't watch the whole game, but that first period of the Blues/Kings was a slugfest. They were more worried about hitting each other than were about doing anything with the puck.

 

Was pretty funny watching a wireless mic get confused for the puck though.

 

I hope it stays that way and the series goes 7 games.

 

I'm torn between my hatred of the Canadiens and wanting to see a Bruins-Pens match up in round 2. Of course, the last thing anyone wants is a Caps-Pens ECF so go Ottawa.

 

I can't decide if I want the Blues to win so the Kings can stop being overrated, or if I want the Kings to win cuz screw STL.

[jersey cubs fan]

I enjoyed hearing Rangers fans complain about the refs last night.

[biittner77]

I enjoyed hearing Rangers fans complain about the refs last night.

 

They should be complaining about the Rangers themselves completely coming unravelled in the 2nd period.

 

Watching live, I didn't think that the hit on the Candians players was as blatantly dirty as the announcers seemed to suggest. It was pretty scary when he was laying there motionless for that long. I guess he didn't want to gross anyone out with his broken nose.

 

 

2:56 to see the best view of the hit

[kujay]

I keep hearing that the principal point of contact wasn't the head. And I believe the biggest part of the injury happened when his face hit the ice. But the guy was clearly out on his feet, and the only way that happens is if he got hit in the head.

[kujay]

Two game suspension. I'm fine with that, but seriously, CBC Radio yapping heads are insistent that this was a clean hit. McGuire too. I just don't see it.

[kujay]

It's been three days and the NHL playoffs are going completely off the rails:

 

 

These series are going to get nasty.

[jersey cubs fan]

Two game suspension. I'm fine with that, but seriously, CBC Radio yapping heads are insistent that this was a clean hit. McGuire too. I just don't see it.

 

It looked dirty, but the more I see it the less certain I am that I could point out the dirty part.

[kujay]

Two game suspension. I'm fine with that, but seriously, CBC Radio yapping heads are insistent that this was a clean hit. McGuire too. I just don't see it.

 

It looked dirty, but the more I see it the less certain I am that I could point out the dirty part.

 

Yeah I just watched it a few more times. The shoulder hit him right in the jaw and you could see his head jolt to the side. Dude was out.

 

Everyone keeps saying the principal point of contact wasn't the head, but that's just wrong. It definitely was.

 

That said, I'm not calling it dirty. He was trying to hit a guy with his head down. It's not like he elbowed him. So not dirty, but reckless.

[NewUserName]

Ok...someone is going to have to explain why it was a dirty hit. I can easily explain why it wasn't, he did not hit his head first and was clearly not going for his head. Diaz should be suspended by his team. There are plenty of hits that are much more dirty than the one on Eller last night that get no attention whatsoever. Gryba is getting suspended for the outcome not the hit....normal NHL crap.

 

Edit: watching the video again the ref doesn't even put his arm up until he sees Eller laying out. If Gryba was a top pairing dman he would not have been suspended

Edited May 3, 2013 by NewUserName

[jersey cubs fan]

Ok...someone is going to have to explain why it was a dirty hit. I can easily explain why it wasn't, he did not hit his head first and was clearly not going for his head. Diaz should be suspended by his team. There are plenty of hits that are much more dirty than the one on Eller last night that get no attention whatsoever. Gryba is getting suspended for the outcome not the hit....normal NHL crap.

 

what did he hit first?

[kujay]

Ok...someone is going to have to explain why it was a dirty hit. I can easily explain why it wasn't, he did not hit his head first and was clearly not going for his head. Diaz should be suspended by his team. There are plenty of hits that are much more dirty than the one on Eller last night that get no attention whatsoever. Gryba is getting suspended for the outcome not the hit....normal NHL crap.

 

Edit: watching the video again the ref doesn't even put his arm up until he sees Eller laying out. If Gryba was a top pairing dman he would not have been suspended

 

I'm sorry, watch the video posted above at 2:56. His shoulder hits the head first, simple as that. As I said before, the proof is in the fact that he was out cold when he went down. You don't get knocked out like that from taking a check to the chest. His head went flying after being hit by the shoulder.

 

Again, I'm not saying he intended to do that. It wasn't an elbow. Not dirty, but reckless. You are right that he wasn't going for the head. But he did hit it first. I can't believe the entire Canadian media (who I listen to too much of, by the way) is missing that.

[NewUserName]

Ok...someone is going to have to explain why it was a dirty hit. I can easily explain why it wasn't, he did not hit his head first and was clearly not going for his head. Diaz should be suspended by his team. There are plenty of hits that are much more dirty than the one on Eller last night that get no attention whatsoever. Gryba is getting suspended for the outcome not the hit....normal NHL crap.

 

what did he hit first?

 

Chest. Gryba is a big boy. He made a play on a stupid pass as Eller's head was down. It is unfortunate but not dirty, illegal or even reckless. What is Gryba supposed to do? let Eller have an easy break out.

[kujay]

Ok...someone is going to have to explain why it was a dirty hit. I can easily explain why it wasn't, he did not hit his head first and was clearly not going for his head. Diaz should be suspended by his team. There are plenty of hits that are much more dirty than the one on Eller last night that get no attention whatsoever. Gryba is getting suspended for the outcome not the hit....normal NHL crap.

 

what did he hit first?

 

Chest. Gryba is a big boy. He made a play on a stupid pass as Eller's head was down. It is unfortunate but not dirty, illegal or even reckless. What is Gryba supposed to do? let Eller have an easy break out.

 

Wrong. Freeze the video at 2:58. You'll see shoulder hit head.

[NewUserName]

Ok...someone is going to have to explain why it was a dirty hit. I can easily explain why it wasn't, he did not hit his head first and was clearly not going for his head. Diaz should be suspended by his team. There are plenty of hits that are much more dirty than the one on Eller last night that get no attention whatsoever. Gryba is getting suspended for the outcome not the hit....normal NHL crap.

 

Edit: watching the video again the ref doesn't even put his arm up until he sees Eller laying out. If Gryba was a top pairing dman he would not have been suspended

 

I'm sorry, watch the video posted above at 2:56. His shoulder hits the head first, simple as that. As I said before, the proof is in the fact that he was out cold when he went down. You don't get knocked out like that from taking a check to the chest. His head went flying after being hit by the shoulder.

 

Again, I'm not saying he intended to do that. It wasn't an elbow. Not dirty, but reckless. You are right that he wasn't going for the head. But he did hit it first. I can't believe the entire Canadian media (who I listen to too much of, by the way) is missing that.

 

Well just surfing the nhl web world and it would appear that you are in a huge minority who saw it that way. I will check out Shanahans video explaining the incident. But except for Canadian fans, there are very few out there that think he should have been suspended

[jersey cubs fan]

Ok...someone is going to have to explain why it was a dirty hit. I can easily explain why it wasn't, he did not hit his head first and was clearly not going for his head. Diaz should be suspended by his team. There are plenty of hits that are much more dirty than the one on Eller last night that get no attention whatsoever. Gryba is getting suspended for the outcome not the hit....normal NHL crap.

 

what did he hit first?

 

Chest. Gryba is a big boy. He made a play on a stupid pass as Eller's head was down. It is unfortunate but not dirty, illegal or even reckless. What is Gryba supposed to do? let Eller have an easy break out.

 

I don't know how the head moves the way it does if he hit the chest first.

[kujay]

I know I'm in the minority, which is weird because the video is pretty clear.

 

I'm a meatball most of the time when it comes to taking hitting out of the game, but this is the way the league handles things these days. I just don't get everyone saying it wasn't a headshot.

[NewUserName]

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=422303 From Kerry Frasor. He points out a hit last night in another game that will not be suspended but was an actual dirty hit. I haven't seen it but other places I have read point out that Subban left his feet to hit someone high/head last night and was not penalized or will be suspended. I also have not seen where he was clearly hit in the head first? I re-watched the video several times and froze it at 2:58. I do not think it is clear at all.

 

I do not think Shanahan's suspension video is out yet.

[jersey cubs fan]

I also have not seen where he was clearly hit in the head first? I re-watched the video several times and froze it at 2:58. I do not think it is clear at all.

 

It's not entirely clear, but your stance sure suggested you thought it was. I really don't see how the head would shoot back like that if he wasn't hit in the head. It's not necessarily dirty, but its' on the players to not hit heads.

 

I also think it's pointless to point out hits that don't draw suspensions in response to ones that do. There are a lot of suspendable hits in this league. If they all actually drew suspensions rosters would dwindle in a hurry. I see nothing wrong with suspending a guy on a hit like that that draws an injury. You don't get in trouble for every crime/infraction you commit in your life, just the ones you get caught doing. If the guy you hit gets injured that's a good way to get caught.

[NewUserName]

I also have not seen where he was clearly hit in the head first? I re-watched the video several times and froze it at 2:58. I do not think it is clear at all.

 

It's not entirely clear, but your stance sure suggested you thought it was. I really don't see how the head would shoot back like that if he wasn't hit in the head. It's not necessarily dirty, but its' on the players to not hit heads.

 

I also think it's pointless to point out hits that don't draw suspensions in response to ones that do. There are a lot of suspendable hits in this league. If they all actually drew suspensions rosters would dwindle in a hurry. I see nothing wrong with suspending a guy on a hit like that that draws an injury. You don't get in trouble for every crime/infraction you commit in your life, just the ones you get caught doing. If the guy you hit gets injured that's a good way to get caught.

 

So keep blindly shooting your gun and we will not punish you until you actually shot someone? My bigger issue with NHL suspensions is not that they suspend the outcome as much as there is clearly a different standard for different players. But it would be best if they had a set standard for punishable hits that was easy to understand. Then a set table of suspensions for such hits/plays. Kind of takes out the whole wheel of justice perception that the NHL currently has. I said it earlier, Gryba got suspended more for his status as a player as for the actual hit.