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He is not in high demand around the league

 

Just nitpicking this point, but you don't think a lot of teams would like to have Lovie? There's a lot of bad head coaches in the league.

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He is not in high demand around the league

 

Just nitpicking this point, but you don't think a lot of teams would like to have Lovie? There's a lot of bad head coaches in the league.

 

if he were looking for work after this season, he would get the same attention that jeff fisher got.

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i extend lovie now, absolutely. he is a culture-builder and he's built one in chicago maybe unrivaled in the NFL. the team has an identity and pride that maybe only the ravens and the patriots equal or exceed. what's more is he's now reloaded a little bit with younger players, they get plays out of every single defensive player on a weekly basis. that's really amazing.

 

you live with some stupid challenges because lovie is a top 5 coach in the NFL.

 

He gets the most out of these guys, but they've been barely above average for years now.

 

FO's weighted defensive rankings since Lovie arrived:

 

2012: 1

2011: 1

2010: 5

2009: 21

2008: 7

2007: 4

2006: 2

2005: 2

2004: 12

 

his defenses have been consistently excellent, not merely "barely above average for years now".

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i extend lovie now, absolutely. he is a culture-builder and he's built one in chicago maybe unrivaled in the NFL. the team has an identity and pride that maybe only the ravens and the patriots equal or exceed. what's more is he's now reloaded a little bit with younger players, they get plays out of every single defensive player on a weekly basis. that's really amazing.

 

you live with some stupid challenges because lovie is a top 5 coach in the NFL.

 

He gets the most out of these guys, but they've been barely above average for years now.

 

FO's weighted defensive rankings since Lovie arrived:

 

2012: 1

2011: 1

2010: 5

2009: 21

2008: 7

2007: 4

2006: 2

2005: 2

2004: 12

 

his defenses have been consistently excellent, not merely "barely above average for years now".

 

He's the head coach, not defensive coordinator. Who the F cares what one unit was ranked. If he wants to go back to being a DC he'll be in demand.

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He is not in high demand around the league

 

Just nitpicking this point, but you don't think a lot of teams would like to have Lovie? There's a lot of bad head coaches in the league.

 

Absolutely not. Lovie is a joke among a good part of the population. Head coach is as much a strategist as he is a salesman, and you aren't going to sell fan interest with Lovie. He's been in Chicago for a decade and that team has a reputation as defensively dangerous but offensively inept. This is an offense first league. You win with offense, specifically throwing the ball. Lovie's had multiple first round QBs to work with, multiple offensive coordinators, and the best they can do is be respectable with the ball (so far).

 

He's fine here, and probably has more value to the Bears since they like consistency and "good people". They don't want Rex Ryan types and they've shown little to no interest in putting their faith in an up and coming offensive mind.

 

But it would be pointless to sign him to an extension today. The season started out as playoffs or bust, don't be stupid and assume the best from a solid start.

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and he'd definitely be in demand if he hit the market. he's not a guy anyone would view as a retread, but rather a guy who has fostered a culture of excellence over a long time in the league. he'd be highly sought after and at the top of any list for any open job.
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He's the head coach, not defensive coordinator. Who the F cares what one unit was ranked. If he wants to go back to being a DC he'll be in demand.

 

You know damn well this isn't how it works. Some head coaches come from a defensive background, others come from an offensive background. Whichever one it is, they generally oversee that side of the ball and the other is left more under the control of the coordinator. This is how it works throughout the league.

 

Also, one unit is pretty much half the game (a little less, but they've been consistently excellent on special teams too), so being elite on one whole freaking side of the ball is pretty damn impactful and important.

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you've also changed your stance on lovie several times in the last few years.

 

Only to the extent that Lovie finally changed his stance on how the offense should work. I hated Lovie's defense and run the ball first devotion. When in doubt punt. I hated what he did with personnel when he got more power after the SB season. But I have consistently noted that Lovie gets the most out of people. As long as there is greater offensive/passing influence elsewhere on the staff (and as long as he went away from that stupid "college teacher" attitude toward his staff") and they actually win more, he's fine.

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I think you're way, way off on the amount of interest there would be in Lovie, Jersey. I think he'd be quite sought after. He's an above average head coach.
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He's the head coach, not defensive coordinator. Who the F cares what one unit was ranked. If he wants to go back to being a DC he'll be in demand.

 

You know damn well this isn't how it works. Some head coaches come from a defensive background, others come from an offensive background. Whichever one it is, they generally oversee that side of the ball and the other is left more under the control of the coordinator. This is how it works throughout the league.

 

Also, one unit is pretty much half the game (a little less, but they've been consistently excellent on special teams too), so being elite on one whole freaking side of the ball is pretty damn impactful and important.

 

And, what's your point?

 

I stated his team has been barely above average and sulley stupidly tried to claim the defensive rankings refute that.

 

 

This is an offensive/passing first league. That is what matters. Lovie is a 54 year old coach with 3 playoff appearances in his career. He's got a year left on his deal already. There is absolutely no risk of losing Lovie if you don't want to lose him.

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I think you're way, way off on the amount of interest there would be in Lovie, Jersey. I think he'd be quite sought after. He's an above average head coach.

 

I think somebody would have interest, just not a whole lot by the elite franchises that actually pay big money. And he's not a free agent anyway so there is no point in worrying about it.

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He's the head coach, not defensive coordinator. Who the F cares what one unit was ranked. If he wants to go back to being a DC he'll be in demand.

 

You know damn well this isn't how it works. Some head coaches come from a defensive background, others come from an offensive background. Whichever one it is, they generally oversee that side of the ball and the other is left more under the control of the coordinator. This is how it works throughout the league.

 

Also, one unit is pretty much half the game (a little less, but they've been consistently excellent on special teams too), so being elite on one whole freaking side of the ball is pretty damn impactful and important.

 

And, what's your point?

 

I stated his team has been barely above average and sulley stupidly tried to claim the defensive rankings refute that.

 

you're really pooping your pants in angst right now. but i can't say i didn't expect it.

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He's the head coach, not defensive coordinator. Who the F cares what one unit was ranked. If he wants to go back to being a DC he'll be in demand.

 

You know damn well this isn't how it works. Some head coaches come from a defensive background, others come from an offensive background. Whichever one it is, they generally oversee that side of the ball and the other is left more under the control of the coordinator. This is how it works throughout the league.

 

Also, one unit is pretty much half the game (a little less, but they've been consistently excellent on special teams too), so being elite on one whole freaking side of the ball is pretty damn impactful and important.

 

this is also a league that's built for parity. you can be balanced or you can be heavy on one side of the ball. the bears have chosen to put most of their resources into their defense and they've been successful doing that, and lovie has been the architect.

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"For me to get to a football town like Chicago and play with a group of guys like (Matt) Forte, Brian (Urlacher), (Brandon Marshall) and Jay (Cutler) would be an honor," Burress said by phone on Tuesday. "I just have to get the green light."

 

Passssss

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"For me to get to a football town like Chicago and play with a group of guys like (Matt) Forte, Brian (Urlacher), (Brandon Marshall) and Jay (Cutler) would be an honor," Burress said by phone on Tuesday. "I just have to get the green light."

 

Passssss

 

Is that even a rumor, or did someone just ask Plax if he wanted to play in Chicago?

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"For me to get to a football town like Chicago and play with a group of guys like (Matt) Forte, Brian (Urlacher), (Brandon Marshall) and Jay (Cutler) would be an honor," Burress said by phone on Tuesday. "I just have to get the green light."

 

Passssss

 

Is that even a rumor, or did someone just ask Plax if he wanted to play in Chicago?

 

Here's the full article:

 

http://espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/story/_/id/8483763/plaxico-burress-wants-join-chicago-bears

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