2013 Rule 5 talk

[toonsterwu]

If we get Peralta back, then all is well. As intrigued as I am with Rondon, I would've rather kept Peralta than get Rondon on account of upside. I worry that the Dbacks can hide Peralta because of their bullpen depth.

 

As for Rondon, I'm not sure he's a starter long run. I guess all the injuries have me curious how the development of his breaking ball went. Could be another nice asset in the pen.

 

Losing Burgess, Cera, and Jimenez doesn't really matter, nothing against those guys.

[Little Slide Rooter]

There are only so many MLB roster spots. Right now Marmol, Fujikawa, Russell, Camp, and Rondon are all slated for one, and an offer is out to Grilli to make a 6th. You don't want every bullpen spot tied to a guy who you either keep or risk losing him every time you need a fresh bullpen arm.

 

Yes, but we already know that Lendy's kind of bad, so why not give his spot to Chafee? Unless we do make a few win now moves, I'd prefer give a spot to the 24 year old unknown commodity than the serviceable 36 year old.

[Guest]

I think you are safely alone in that sentiment.

[Guest]

How do we know Lendy is bad?

[bukie]

SCS is to player evaluation like Gary Bettman is to labor negotiations. So bad it's surprising he still tries it.

[pitchcs]

There are only so many MLB roster spots. Right now Marmol, Fujikawa, Russell, Camp, and Rondon are all slated for one, and an offer is out to Grilli to make a 6th. You don't want every bullpen spot tied to a guy who you either keep or risk losing him every time you need a fresh bullpen arm.

 

Yes, but we already know that Lendy's kind of bad, so why not give his spot to Chafee? Unless we do make a few win now moves, I'd prefer give a spot to the 24 year old unknown commodity than the serviceable 36 year old.

 

 

Wait, who is the serviceable 36 year old, Grilli?

[Little Slide Rooter]

SCS is to player evaluation like Gary Bettman is to labor negotiations. So bad it's surprising he still tries it.

 

But this is situation evaluation, the situation being that 2013 isn't likely to be the year. My sentiment is that aside from those currently on the roster that are likely to contribute come 2015, we should be filling as many available roster spots with players who have some chance at contributing by then, even if it's nothing more than an audition.

[toonsterwu]

Really doesn't go in this thread, but don't think it's necessary to make a thread for it as of now. So, AzPhil posted the current post-2013 Rule 5 and Six-Year Minor League FA's (along with 2nd contract) in the comments section of the latest TCR article.

 

http://www.thecubreporter.com/12052012/cubs-continue-shopping-spree#disqus_thread

 

At first glance, it feels like a breather year, as of now. Obviously, a lot can change in a year, but ... staring at that list now, not many guys really jump out at me as "We should protect him", let alone "We must protect him". I mean, the top position prospect on that list seems to be Alcantara or Amaya, and we really have to wait and see how Alcantara's bat does in AA and whether or not Amaya can push past Peoria this year (going to be awful tough to justify protecting a position player in Low A unless said player has elite potential. Of course, another argument is that Amaya's versatility may make it easier to protect him, but that assumes he shows something, which should get him past Low A). After that ... Jae Hoon Ha?

 

Pitching wise, it's a bit better, but Marcelo Carreno isn't that much better than Nick Struck, both guys being eligible. Jose Rosario may be the most intriguing name, but we have to see how he does. A bit easier to gamble on velocity, though, so if he's healthy, he could be a "Lendy" type guy. Then there's Arias and Zach Cates guys we have to wait and see how they do next year. I could see both doing enough to deserve sticking around, but a lot of work to do for them. Some pen arms in the mix as well, per the usual.

 

Sort of glad that it's a weaker crop next year, as of now. Granted, I hope some of these guys emerge and make me want to protect them.

[Guest]

Starling Peralta update:

 

@tim815 Starlng Peralta faces 6 Reds. 4 get hits. 2 walk. None retired.

[toonsterwu]

Good. Falter, flop. I don't mind if he looks bad and is given back.

[craig]

Two innings in, but Rondon has been good.

 

Hope he can keep it up. Would be awesome to create a useful pitcher out of the Rule 5.

[mul21]

Sounds like the Dbacks have sent Peralta back according to Brett at BN.

[Guest]

That was quick!

[Little Slide Rooter]

Where would this slot Peralta in our top prospects list? somewhere between 30-40?

[Guest]

FWIW, which is basically nothing but I was curious, Rondon vs. Fields in ST

 

Fields

 

8 G 7.2 IP 3 ER 6 BB 4 K 1.696 WHIP 3.52 ERA

 

Rondon

 

7 G 6 IP 2 ER 1 BB 3K 1.167 WHIP 3.00 ERA