Daniel Bard

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I've not encountered this before. After 3 starts this Spring and 1 run allowed in those outings, how does CBS handle the probability that Daniel Bard becomes the 4th starter for Boston to start the season ? Does he immediately get SP eligibility ?

[moochpuppy]

Here is how our league is set up for position eligibility:

 

Your league eligibility rules for batters are 10 games played at the position this year or 20 games played at the position last year. For starting pitchers the rule is 1 games started this year or 5 last year. For relief pitchers the rule is 1 relief appearances this year or 10 last year.

[abuck1220]

if he's starting, he should obviously be eligible as a SP before his first start. i don't see the harm in making EVERY pitcher eligible at SP.

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Or have 2 RP spots and the rest just be P. If you want to use 5 RPs, why not?

[Guest]

The way Juan has handled position switches like this in the past is to allow exceptions to the rule for players making permanent switches at the beginning of the season to be eligible right away.

 

I don't have a problem making Bard a SP. Or just put him in your lineup and let the points accrue. Come to think of it, this could fall under the "whatever it takes to get to seven starts" rule, too.

[abuck1220]

Or have 2 RP spots and the rest just be P. If you want to use 5 RPs, why not?

 

eh, it's kinda late to make a major rule change like that. you would have issues with daily lineup changes, teams racking up points by using more than 2 RPs, etc.

 

if you force him to just put bard in as a reliever and get the points he gets as a starter, you're making him go w/ only 1 RP for at least a day, which isn't fair. the best way to fix it is to just make him eligible as a SP.

[Quakers]

Or have 2 RP spots and the rest just be P. If you want to use 5 RPs, why not?

 

eh, it's kinda late to make a major rule change like that. you would have issues with daily lineup changes, teams racking up points by using more than 2 RPs, etc.

 

if you force him to just put bard in as a reliever and get the points he gets as a starter, you're making him go w/ only 1 RP for at least a day, which isn't fair. the best way to fix it is to just make him eligible as a SP.

 

I agree with Adam. Use Juan's old rule. If it is clear that someone is a starter at the beginning of the season, then use your commish powers and make him one.

 

I may have the same issue with Chapman.

[Guest]

I'll hopefully have the same problem with Chris Sale.

[bukie]

I will have the same issue with both Neftali Feliz and Aaron Crow...probably.

[Tracer Bullet]

I have a related issue. All 3B suck and I have a lot of 1B. Can we make one of my semi-terrible 1B eligible at 3B? thanks.

[bukie]

I hate myself already for even having to ask this question...but is there a reason LaHair isn't eligible at first base?

[TruffleShuffle]

I hate myself already for even having to ask this question...but is there a reason LaHair isn't eligible at first base?

 

he only played first 4 times for the big club last year and i'm guessing it's not counting all the time he spent there in the minors.

[karenmac]

only sort-of related to the thread...I got to see LaHair from the bleachers at Fitch yesterday and:

1) the dude is HUGE

2) he can crush the ball - his 1st 4 abs were triple, double, ground-out, single. I was also surprised how quick he was for how big a guy he is.

 

Always kinda cool to see the big league guys from 10 feet away!

[Guest]

This topic is already addressed in the rules btw. Pitchers can be used in either role provided that's the role they are used in by their team. Other players can be made eligible by exception if they are officially moved - e.g. Hanley Ramirez.

[Quakers]

only sort-of related to the thread...I got to see LaHair from the bleachers at Fitch yesterday and:

1) the dude is HUGE

2) he can crush the ball - his 1st 4 abs were triple, double, ground-out, single. I was also surprised how quick he was for how big a guy he is.

 

Always kinda cool to see the big league guys from 10 feet away!

 

Sounds like Karen is having a good time 8-)

[abuck1220]

This topic is already addressed in the rules btw. Pitchers can be used in either role provided that's the role they are used in by their team. Other players can be made eligible by exception if they are officially moved - e.g. Hanley Ramirez.

 

i don't like this rule (even though it benefits me due to trumbo moving to 3b and d wright possibly missing the beginning of the season). what if hanley plays 1 inning at 3b and then is moved back to ss when reyes breaks his leg in game 1 and is out for the year? is hanley still 3b eligible?

[Tracer Bullet]

Why can't the eligibility rules just apply as written and when Bard gets enough starts he'll be a SP and when Hanley plays 3b enough, he'll be eligible? I guess I don't see why we have an eligibility rule if we just make preemptive exceptions.

[abuck1220]

agreed (at least as it pertains to position players). the rules are what they are. once again, we're doing that thing where we have 5,000 exceptions to every rule.

 

i don't care if you don't want to make bard a SP, but then you have to be allowed to use him as RP and get starts from him. otherwise, he's literally an unusable player for a month of the season and that would be nonsensical.

[Guest]

This topic is already addressed in the rules btw. Pitchers can be used in either role provided that's the role they are used in by their team. Other players can be made eligible by exception if they are officially moved - e.g. Hanley Ramirez.

 

i don't like this rule (even though it benefits me due to trumbo moving to 3b and d wright possibly missing the beginning of the season). what if hanley plays 1 inning at 3b and then is moved back to ss when reyes breaks his leg in game 1 and is out for the year? is hanley still 3b eligible?

 

no, then he wouldn't be. tough [expletive]. :D

[Tracer Bullet]

agreed (at least as it pertains to position players). the rules are what they are. once again, we're doing that thing where we have 5,000 exceptions to every rule.

 

i don't care if you don't want to make bard a SP, but then you have to be allowed to use him as RP and get starts from him. otherwise, he's literally an unusable player for a month of the season and that would be nonsensical.

 

Why not let him get starts as a RP? You're still capped at 7 starts a week. All you're doing is costing yourself closer innings.

[TruffleShuffle]

yeah, just let players earn their eligibility. a starter gets eligibility after one start, so if you're paying attention all you have to do is put him in the RP spot for the night he starts. worst case scenario you lose a relief appearance. same with position players; if hanley ramirez is going to be a 3B you can play a backup there for a few games or just go without points from a 3B for a handful of games.