Cubs Sign 19 year old Cuban LHP Gerardo Concepcion

[PriortoTheoIhadWood]

The 40 man problem isn't immediate, but it's coming soon. McNutt, Brett. Rhee, Antigua, Ha, Struck, Rusin, guys we may acquire in a Garza, Byrd, Soto, Marmol, or Dempster deal. College guys we may draft that move quickly. It COULD get full quickly. Don't get me wrong, not all these guys will make it obviously, but we're getting close to the pointt where we'll start dealing away some guys. Probably within a year or so.

 

Yes. Collect and spend to collect better things...Ever check out how much prime star+ talent can hit the MLB FA market over the next 3-4 years? No doubt Justin Upton will eventually be traded...Felix Hernandez....A Zimmerman? That'd be sweet, especially the 3B one....Tim Lincecum...Stud talent will hit the trade market because teams might prefer the prospects to the picks. There will be a Josh Beckett trade. Maybe even two if Luck and Skill keep having threesomes with Theo.

 

Oh God...you're back.

 

He never left.

 

Lol no, I did.

 

Must be pretty devastating considering the raucous I caused before...All those insults I was throwing around and such. I was a havoc causing machine here who took no prisoners. Plus what I said up there was so unbelievably wrong.

[Little Slide Rooter]

The 40 man problem isn't immediate, but it's coming soon. McNutt, Brett. Rhee, Antigua, Ha, Struck, Rusin, guys we may acquire in a Garza, Byrd, Soto, Marmol, or Dempster deal. College guys we may draft that move quickly. It COULD get full quickly. Don't get me wrong, not all these guys will make it obviously, but we're getting close to the pointt where we'll start dealing away some guys. Probably within a year or so.

 

Yes. Collect and spend to collect better things...Ever check out how much prime star+ talent can hit the MLB FA market over the next 3-4 years? No doubt Justin Upton will eventually be traded...Felix Hernandez....A Zimmerman? That'd be sweet, especially the 3B one....Tim Lincecum...Stud talent will hit the trade market because teams might prefer the prospects to the picks. There will be a Josh Beckett trade. Maybe even two if Luck and Skill keep having threesomes with Theo.

 

Oh God...you're back.

 

He never left.

 

Lol no, I did.

 

Must be pretty devastating considering the raucous I caused before...All those insults I was throwing around and such. I was a havoc causing machine here who took no prisoners. Plus what I said up there was so unbelievably wrong.

 

Now was that when you were Cubs GM, Men in Blue, Hollandsworths mug, or other? Hard to keep track sometimes.

[javy knows my name]

The 40 man problem isn't immediate, but it's coming soon. McNutt, Brett. Rhee, Antigua, Ha, Struck, Rusin, guys we may acquire in a Garza, Byrd, Soto, Marmol, or Dempster deal. College guys we may draft that move quickly. It COULD get full quickly. Don't get me wrong, not all these guys will make it obviously, but we're getting close to the pointt where we'll start dealing away some guys. Probably within a year or so.

 

Yes. Collect and spend to collect better things...Ever check out how much prime star+ talent can hit the MLB FA market over the next 3-4 years? No doubt Justin Upton will eventually be traded...Felix Hernandez....A Zimmerman? That'd be sweet, especially the 3B one....Tim Lincecum...Stud talent will hit the trade market because teams might prefer the prospects to the picks. There will be a Josh Beckett trade. Maybe even two if Luck and Skill keep having threesomes with Theo.

 

Oh God...you're back.

 

He never left.

 

Lol no, I did.

 

Must be pretty devastating considering the raucous I caused before...All those insults I was throwing around and such. I was a havoc causing machine here who took no prisoners. Plus what I said up there was so unbelievably wrong.

 

Yeah, it was the worst. I'm not sure why you're allowed to post here.

[CubColtPacer]

Enough. Back on topic.

[C.C.]

Bust. Waste of time and money even talking about this player.

 

 

Close thread please.

[Tyrant]

Bust. Waste of time and money even talking about this player.

 

How much money have you spent talking about him?

[Guest]

Bust. Waste of time and money even talking about this player.

 

 

Close thread please.

 

Seriously, you need to knock it off with this stuff.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Levine says this is at least a 4 year deal. So probably less than 2 mill towards the 2012 payroll, for what it's worth.

 

In his case, does that mean that he'd be a free agent in 4 years or like Samardzjia where he'd still be under team control after it's up? It would kind of suck if we were paying him 7mil/year or whatever and he became a FA around the time he's ready for the big leagues.

[C.C.]

Bust. Waste of time and money even talking about this player.

 

 

Close thread please.

 

Seriously, you need to knock it off with this stuff.

 

Just my opinion bro.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Levine says this is at least a 4 year deal. So probably less than 2 mill towards the 2012 payroll, for what it's worth.

 

In his case, does that mean that he'd be a free agent in 4 years or like Samardzjia where he'd still be under team control after it's up? It would kind of suck if we were paying him 7mil/year or whatever and he became a FA around the time he's ready for the big leagues.

 

It's like Samardzija. But the problem is, that sets a fairly high baseline. We won't be able to pay him $500k or whatever in his pre-arb years. Which sucks.

 

I'm not really sure I like this deal all that much. Unless Epstein and crew thought they saw something in the scouting process that made them think he's a lot better than the conventional wisdom.

[Bull]

Levine says this is at least a 4 year deal. So probably less than 2 mill towards the 2012 payroll, for what it's worth.

 

In his case, does that mean that he'd be a free agent in 4 years or like Samardzjia where he'd still be under team control after it's up? It would kind of suck if we were paying him 7mil/year or whatever and he became a FA around the time he's ready for the big leagues.

 

It's like Samardzija. But the problem is, that sets a fairly high baseline. We won't be able to pay him $500k or whatever in his pre-arb years. Which sucks.

 

I'm not really sure I like this deal all that much. Unless Epstein and crew thought they saw something in the scouting process that made them think he's a lot better than the conventional wisdom.

 

Samardzija is different in that he was drafted from college (and not even focusing full time on baseball) raw at age 21. This guy is already in A, A+, or AA level competition at age 19. Not as much money, not as much risk. Better situation in every way.

[Guest]

Levine says this is at least a 4 year deal. So probably less than 2 mill towards the 2012 payroll, for what it's worth.

 

In his case, does that mean that he'd be a free agent in 4 years or like Samardzjia where he'd still be under team control after it's up? It would kind of suck if we were paying him 7mil/year or whatever and he became a FA around the time he's ready for the big leagues.

 

Jesus CHRIST. Do you even read what you're replying to?

[dew1679666265]

I'm not really sure I like this deal all that much. Unless Epstein and crew thought they saw something in the scouting process that made them think he's a lot better than the conventional wisdom.

 

They seem to think the bolded. From what craig said earlier, if they think he's 6'3, sitting comfortably at 91-93 and touching much higher than that, then they think he's much better than conventional wisdom.

 

For me, if the Cubs are right in their scouting of him, then this is a fantastic deal. If conventional wisdom is right, then this is an iffy deal, but one that in the absolute worst case scenario is just a slight waste of money. I still like the signing.

[Guest]

Levine says this is at least a 4 year deal. So probably less than 2 mill towards the 2012 payroll, for what it's worth.

 

In his case, does that mean that he'd be a free agent in 4 years or like Samardzjia where he'd still be under team control after it's up? It would kind of suck if we were paying him 7mil/year or whatever and he became a FA around the time he's ready for the big leagues.

 

It's like Samardzija. But the problem is, that sets a fairly high baseline. We won't be able to pay him $500k or whatever in his pre-arb years. Which sucks.

 

I'm not really sure I like this deal all that much. Unless Epstein and crew thought they saw something in the scouting process that made them think he's a lot better than the conventional wisdom.

How much impact it has on downstream salary depends on the split between signing bonus and salary. If it's a $5M bonus and $2M salary, then they might only be tethered to a ~$500K/year salary.

[davell]

Nevermind. Misread a post on another board and took it for something else.

[erik316wttn]

Guaranteed $6 million over 5 years per Paul Sullivan on Twitter.

[RammyFanny]

The Cubs also list him as 20 years old.

[Guest]

It breaks down as $3 million over 5 years with a $3 million signing bonus.

[RammyFanny]

Hoyer couldn’t say whether Concepcion would start out the season at Triple-A Iowa, as expected, or if he would be able to help the Cubs this season.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-cubs-sign-cuban-lefthander-concepcion-to-fiveyear-deal-20120311,0,7721674.story

 

Just lazy reporting, or could the Iowa thing be true?

[Hairyducked Idiot]

That's got to be lazy reporting. If he's 20 and not 19 then I guess Daytona seems a bit more likely than before, but that's about it.

 

I really, really want to hear where the Cubs have him at for velocity.

[Guest]

Hoyer couldn’t say whether Concepcion would start out the season at Triple-A Iowa, as expected, or if he would be able to help the Cubs this season.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-cubs-sign-cuban-lefthander-concepcion-to-fiveyear-deal-20120311,0,7721674.story

 

Just lazy reporting, or could the Iowa thing be true?

 

I posted a video of the interview in the Minor League thread. Someone asked whether he'd start at AAA and he said they hadn't determined where he'd start, he'd have to show up and get his legs under him. It was a dumb question if you knew anything about Concepcion.

[Little Slide Rooter]

It breaks down as $3 million over 5 years with a $3 million signing bonus.

 

Wow, considering all of the early 20+mil talk, can't even almost complain about that. Pretty much overslot mid-first round money, right seeing as Baez got 2.65 mil?

[davell]

There was never any talk of Concepcion getting 20 mill.

[Guest]

It breaks down as $3 million over 5 years with a $3 million signing bonus.

 

Wow, considering all of the early 20+mil talk, can't even almost complain about that. Pretty much overslot mid-first round money, right seeing as Baez got 2.65 mil?

 

Levine says this is at least a 4 year deal. So probably less than 2 mill towards the 2012 payroll, for what it's worth.

 

In his case, does that mean that he'd be a free agent in 4 years or like Samardzjia where he'd still be under team control after it's up? It would kind of suck if we were paying him 7mil/year or whatever and he became a FA around the time he's ready for the big leagues.

 

Jesus CHRIST. Do you even read what you're replying to?

 

 

We've known pretty much how much this contract was for since the news first broke. And even at the $7M that was originally reported, it was considered somewhat of an overpay. Where in the [expletive] are you getting $20M from?

 

And seriously, do you not read the things you reply to?

[Guest]

I have to imagine he confused Concepcion's financials with Soler's.