Chicago Bears Offseason 2012

[minnesotacubsfan]

Actually both styles of offense are often referred to as "WEST COAST", so I'm not sure what lesson Theo is providing

 

I've never heard the Coryell style referred to as West Coast. Every time I've heard west coast offense it has been describing the Bill Walsh, high completion percentage/passing game used as a replacement for the running game style.

 

Wiki it.

[jersey cubs fan]

Actually both styles of offense are often referred to as "WEST COAST", so I'm not sure what lesson Theo is providing

 

I've never heard the Coryell style referred to as West Coast. Every time I've heard west coast offense it has been describing the Bill Walsh, high completion percentage/passing game used as a replacement for the running game style.

 

Wiki it.

 

Hah, I did after I wrote that. Kind of a pointless article, everybody knows what WCO is, and it's not what Martz was doing.

[Guest]

Actually both styles of offense are often referred to as "WEST COAST", so I'm not sure what lesson Theo is providing

 

I've never heard the Coryell style referred to as West Coast. Every time I've heard west coast offense it has been describing the Bill Walsh, high completion percentage/passing game used as a replacement for the running game style.

 

Wiki it.

 

Hah, I did after I wrote that. Kind of a pointless article, everybody knows what WCO is, and it's not what Martz was doing.

 

Haven't looked it up. Was San Francisco the first team to utilize that offense? I thought Dan Fouts to John Jefferson and Charlie Joyner with Chuck Muncie catching tons of balls out of the backfield was the original WCO team.

[minnesotacubsfan]

SD was the original WCO, but SF really popularized the term.

[Magnetic Curses]

Actually both styles of offense are often referred to as "WEST COAST", so I'm not sure what lesson Theo is providing

 

I've never heard the Coryell style referred to as West Coast. Every time I've heard west coast offense it has been describing the Bill Walsh, high completion percentage/passing game used as a replacement for the running game style.

 

Wiki it.

 

Hah, I did after I wrote that. Kind of a pointless article, everybody knows what WCO is, and it's not what Martz was doing.

 

it's essentially what the greatest show on turf was

[minnesotacubsfan]

And to be clear, Dan fout's WCO was completely dif then Montanas, but Fouts came first

[mul21]

And to be clear, Dan fout's WCO was completely dif then Montanas, but Fouts came first

 

And what Fouts did is never referred to as west coast offense. I have no idea where you're getting that. It's known as Air Coryell and the Bill Walsh style is west coast.

[cubbyvirus00]

Do the Bears go for Michael Floyd or do they dodge his off the field issues and go for Alshon Jeffrey?

 

I'm hoping VJax is available so they can target a LT in the first round. Perhaps if not, they can at least make a run at Carl Nicks.

[Magnetic Curses]

sign gaither or sign v jackson and then go opposite in the first. this seems a really easy fix.

 

the bears are in a great position to really improve themselves and contend for a super bowl.

[davell]

If you draft a WR in the 1st, I hope they pick up someone like Meachem through FA as well. If they sign a number 1 WR, then I hope they take one in the 2nd or 3rd in the draft too. Unless they address TE somehow. I want the O-Line addressed early as well. I guess my best case scenario would be to sign a 1 WR, sign a CB, draft a OT in the 1st, DE/DT in the 2nd, WR and TE in the 3rd. Take LB's and S's late in the draft and maybe another developmental OL.

[ctcf]

the bears are in a great position to really improve themselves and contend for a super bowl.

 

And yet why do I sincerely doubt they'll take advantage of the opportunity.

[Splendid Splinter]

the bears are in a great position to really improve themselves and contend for a super bowl.

 

And yet why do I sincerely doubt they'll take advantage of the opportunity.

 

Don't worry. I was thinking the same thing, but then I realized, Angelo is gone... :yahoo:

[Butterscup1679666578]

What kind of cap room are we expected to have? Would we be able to sign both Gaither and a WR?

[Pushfrog98]

The CBSSports.com mock-draft has the Bears selecting 5'10" WR Kendall Wright from Baylor...

 

I don't know much about him. It'd be nice to have a big receiver, but can he make up for the lack of height? We already have several sub 6' receivers though. Thoughts?

[Butterscup1679666578]

I still think we need two WRs, so I'd be fine with it if we signed Bowe or Jackson, but if that's the only WR we're going to go after I'd rather have Floyd, or even Jeffery in the second round.

[jersey cubs fan]

The CBSSports.com mock-draft has the Bears selecting 5'10" WR Kendall Wright from Baylor...

 

I don't know much about him. It'd be nice to have a big receiver, but can he make up for the lack of height? We already have several sub 6' receivers though. Thoughts?

 

Todd McShay has the same thing.

 

 

Chicago BearsRecord: 8-8

Kendall Wright*, WR, BaylorThe Bears have not spent a first-round pick on a wide receiver since David Terrell in 2001, and at some point they have to pull the trigger on a playmaker for QB Jay Cutler. A versatile speedster who can threaten defenses vertically and is dangerous after the catch, Wright is on the rise after catching 108 passes for 1,663 yards and hauling in 14 touchdowns in 2011.

 

McShay ranks him 20th and the 3rd WR. Scouts Inc has him 32nd and the 4th WR (Blackmon, Floyd, Jeffery).

[ManCrushOnNomar]

We've got "speedster" WRs who can extend the field. Where we have problems is the big guy who can go up and get it. Wright is not the answer to that deficiency.

[Splendid Splinter]

We've got "speedster" WRs who can extend the field. Where we have problems is the big guy who can go up and get it. Wright is not the answer to that deficiency.

 

 

Nooo... What the problem is... Bears need "GOOD" WRs. Really doesn't matter how tall they are, they just need to be good. Some analyst are comparing Wright to Percy Harvin. I would take Harvin (minus the headaches/injuries- which is Wright upside) on the Bears in a heartbeat. Personally... I think he's this years Heywood-Bey, Troy Williamson, etc... I rather have Floyd or Jeffery over Wright at the moment.

[Guest]

We've got "speedster" WRs who can extend the field. Where we have problems is the big guy who can go up and get it. Wright is not the answer to that deficiency.

 

Not really. I don't hold out much hope for Knox to come back healthy next year. That back injury looked really bad to me. Hester isn't starter material since he isn't able to get any consistent separation from his defenders, and that he drops anything that comes his way when asked to go across the middle, I'm not so sure he's a quality back up either. If they can afford Gaither and one of Vincent Jackson or Bowe, I think they could take a shorter best available at WR type with their first pick.

 

It's really a shame Roy Williams couldn't have been an adequate pass catcher. He seems like he has the height, athleticism and ability to get open and would have limited the need to go after a top draft pick and free agent acquisition at the same position.

 

Bennett is the only guy on the roster right now that is adequate at the position, IMO.

[rawaction]

Yeah, "going up and getting the ball" is way down on the list of things a WR needs to be able to do. If a WR has to go up over a DB to make a catch, then either he didn't get open well enough or the QB threw a pass he shouldn't have made. The Bears need WRs to get open. The problem with the Bears WRs are Knox is only a straight line speed guy, no shiftiness to him. Hester has shiftiness when returning kicks, but is more of a straight line guy as a WR. Plus, he's nto very good at disguising his routes.

 

I feel that Kendall Wright has straight line speed, is shifty, and is a lot tougher than people think. He's willing and able to go over the middle and can run after the catch.

[jersey cubs fan]

Yeah, "going up and getting the ball" is way down on the list of things a WR needs to be able to do. If a WR has to go up over a DB to make a catch, then either he didn't get open well enough or the QB threw a pass he shouldn't have made. The Bears need WRs to get open. The problem with the Bears WRs are Knox is only a straight line speed guy, no shiftiness to him. Hester has shiftiness when returning kicks, but is more of a straight line guy as a WR. Plus, he's nto very good at disguising his routes.

 

I feel that Kendall Wright has straight line speed, is shifty, and is a lot tougher than people think. He's willing and able to go over the middle and can run after the catch.

 

Yeah, while it may be ideal to find a big great receiver, the key is getting good WR. Knox is a great athlete and a decent enough football player, but he's not a very good receiver. Bennett isn't great, but he's the best they have. The Bears need a really good WR. Maybe nobody elite, but they have to get legit, real WR. Not return guys or DBs who have changed positions, but actual WRs.

[Guest]

I'm with BBB - you can't even rely on Knox playing next year and should plan accordingly.

[Magnetic Curses]

i want a big receiver, a big target that can make plays and doesn't fall down. i think that would be the most important thing to me, "guy who doesn't fall down in front of the DB"

[rawaction]

Yeah, all things being equal, I'd rather have a big WR too. But not because he can go up and get the ball. Moreso because he doesn't have to create as much separation as a smaller guy, which helps in the 3-step game. Michael Floyd would be the ideal pick for the Bears at 19 because he can do a little of everything and has some Larry Fitzgerald potential.

[ctcf]

So with Knox out our receiver corps is essentially Earl Bennett