BA & BP's Cubs Top Prospect Lists

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Comes out tomorrow, along with the chat.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Dammit you had me excited that the list was out.

[Guest]

Geez, Welington Castillo and Rafael Dolis?

 

1. Brett Jackson, of

2. Javier Baez, ss

3. Matt Szczur, of

4. Trey McNutt, rhp

5. Dillon Maples, rhp

6. Wellington Castillo, c

7. Rafael Dolis, rhp

8. Junior Lake, ss

9. Josh Vitters, 3b/1b

10. Dan Vogelbach, 1b

 

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prospects/rankings/organization-top-10-prospects/2012/2612580.html

 

BEST

TOOLS

Best Hitter for Average: D.J. LeMahieu

Best Power Hitter: Dan Vogelbach

Best Strike-Zone Discipline: Matt Cerda

Fastest Baserunner: Matt Szczur

Best Athlete: Matt Szczur

Best Fastball: Rafael Dolis

Best Curveball: Trey McNutt

Best Slider: Kevin Rhoderick

Best Changeup: Dae-Eun Rhee

Best Control: Dallas Beeler

Best Defensive Catcher: Welington Castillo

Best Defensive Infielder: Elliot Soto

Best Infield Arm: Junior Lake

Best Defensive Outfielder: Jae-Hoon Ha

Best Outfield Arm: Anthony Giansanti

[Guest]

And link to the premium story: http://www.baseballamerica.com/online/prospects/rankings/organization-top-10-prospects/2012/2612583.html

[SouthSideRyan]

TOP PROSPECTS
OF THE DECADE 
Year Player, Position 2011 Org. 
2002 Mark Prior, rhp Yankees 
2003 Hee Seop Choi, 1b Kia (Korea) 
2004 Angel Guzman, rhp Cubs 
2005 Brian Dopirak, 1b Astros 
2006 Felix Pie, of Orioles 
2007 Felix Pie, of Orioles 
2008 Josh Vitters, 3b Cubs 
2009 Josh Vitters, 3b Cubs 
2010 Starlin Castro, ss Cubs 
2011 Chris Archer, rhp Rays 

TOP DRAFT PICKS
OF THE DECADE 
Year Player, Position 2011 Org. 
2002 Bobby Brownlie, rhp Out of baseball 
2003 Ryan Harvey, of Red Sox 
2004 Grant Johnson, rhp (2nd round) Out of baseball 
2005 Mark Pawelek, lhp Out of baseball 
2006 Tyler Colvin, of Cubs 
2007 Josh Vitters, 3b Cubs 
2008 Andrew Cashner, rhp Cubs 
2009 Brett Jackson, of Cubs 
2010 Hayden Simpson, rhp Cubs 
2011 Javier Baez, ss Cubs  

This is why the Cubs are where they are, not boogeyman long-term contracts.

[BeerHere]

Three members of the 2011 draft class stepped into the top 10. Baez at #2, Maples at 5 and VogelBOMB at 10. I sincerely hope that Castillo replaces Hill in 2012. Edited November 14, 2011 by BeerHere

[Guest]

Well, at least they spelled Castillo's name right in the tools section.

[Guest]

My list is going to be much different than theirs.

[BeerHere]

No DeVoss, Simpson or Ha Edited November 14, 2011 by BeerHere

[BeerHere]

TOP PROSPECTS
OF THE DECADE 
Year Player, Position 2011 Org. 
2002 Mark Prior, rhp Yankees 
2003 Hee Seop Choi, 1b Kia (Korea) 
2004 Angel Guzman, rhp Cubs 
2005 Brian Dopirak, 1b Astros 
2006 Felix Pie, of Orioles 
2007 Felix Pie, of Orioles 
2008 Josh Vitters, 3b Cubs 
2009 Josh Vitters, 3b Cubs 
2010 Starlin Castro, ss Cubs 
2011 Chris Archer, rhp Rays 

TOP DRAFT PICKS
OF THE DECADE 
Year Player, Position 2011 Org. 
2002 Bobby Brownlie, rhp Out of baseball 
2003 Ryan Harvey, of Red Sox 
2004 Grant Johnson, rhp (2nd round) Out of baseball 
2005 Mark Pawelek, lhp Out of baseball 
2006 Tyler Colvin, of Cubs 
2007 Josh Vitters, 3b Cubs 
2008 Andrew Cashner, rhp Cubs 
2009 Brett Jackson, of Cubs 
2010 Hayden Simpson, rhp Cubs 
2011 Javier Baez, ss Cubs  

This is why the Cubs are where they are, not boogeyman long-term contracts.

 

Agreed. Pawelek still bothers me.

[Guest]

No DeVoss, Simpson or Ha

 

Nor Rhee. Dolis definitely doesn't belong in the top 10.

 

ETA: Why would Simpson even sniff the top 10? I don't think DeVoss is a top 20 prospect.

[Guest]

No DeVoss or Ha

 

Nor Rhee (I don't think DeVoss is a top 20 prospect in the system). Dolis definitely doesn't belong in the top 10.

I doubt I'll have Castillo, Maples or Dolis in my top 10.

[TruffleShuffle]

No DeVoss, Simpson or Ha

 

simpson would be lucky to make the top 30

[BeerHere]

No DeVoss or Ha

 

Nor Rhee (I don't think DeVoss is a top 20 prospect in the system). Dolis definitely doesn't belong in the top 10.

What don't you like about DeVoss? It's a small sample size at Boise but he still OPS'd .840. Given the lack of depth at the position I'm curious to see how he does at Peoria next year. Is he not the best 2B prospect in the system ceiling-wise?

[SouthSideRyan]

The Cubs 1st round picks over the last 10 years have contributed -0.2 bWAR.

[Guest]

No DeVoss or Ha

 

Nor Rhee (I don't think DeVoss is a top 20 prospect in the system). Dolis definitely doesn't belong in the top 10.

What don't you like about DeVoss? It's a small sample size at Boise but he still OPS'd .840. Given the lack of depth at the position I'm curious to see how he does at Peoria next year. Is he not the best 2B prospect in the system ceiling-wise?

Lack of depth?

 

Barney (if mlb is part of the "system")

Flaherty

LeMahieu

Cerda

Watkins

 

Not to mention that guys currently at SS could be moved to 2B if Starlin stays at SS. Which would throw guys like Marco Hernandez and Gioskar Amaya into the mix, too.

[SouthSideRyan]

The Cubs 1st round picks over the last 10 years have contributed -0.2 bWAR.

 

(Yes, I know I'm gettin off-topic)

 

Any guesses as to what draft pick from the past 8 years has accumulated the most bWAR as a Cub?

Edited November 14, 2011 by SouthSideRyan

[Guest]

The Cubs 1st round picks over the last 10 years have contributed -0.2 bWAR.

 

(Yes, I know I'm gettin off-topic)

 

Any guesses as to what draft pick over the past 8 years has accumulated the most WAR as a Cub?

Darwin Barney?

[SouthSideRyan]

Nope.

[jersey cubs fan]

The Cubs 1st round picks over the last 10 years have contributed -0.2 bWAR.

 

(Yes, I know I'm gettin off-topic)

 

Any guesses as to what draft pick over the past 8 years has accumulated the most WAR as a Cub?

Darwin Barney?

 

samardzija?

[Guest]

Nope.

Was Wells within the last eight years?

[SouthSideRyan]

The Cubs 1st round picks over the last 10 years have contributed -0.2 bWAR.

 

(Yes, I know I'm gettin off-topic)

 

Any guesses as to what draft pick over the past 8 years has accumulated the most WAR as a Cub?

Darwin Barney?

 

samardzija?

 

His awful '09 and '10 torpedoed nearly all the value from '08 and '11.

[jersey cubs fan]

campana?

[Guest]

Marshall. Wells was the 2002 draft.

[SouthSideRyan]

Nope.

Was Wells within the last eight years?

 

'02 draft. He wins when going back 10 years.