Re: New GM/Cubs Future News Articles

[Hairyducked Idiot]

If Theo to Chicago is official, we officially have all the leverage in negotiations right?

 

Only if you trust Selig not to screw us if the RedSox dig in their heels until Nov 1.

 

I doubt Selig wants to set a precedent of significant compensation for suits.

 

 

Red Sox fans are convinced that Selig is Henry's buddy, and that he doesn't want to set a precedent for "raiding" executives under contract.

[UMFan83]

Courtesy of Garwilly:

 

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/9210/img3408n.jpg

 

Was taken on 90/94. Very nice of them to include Jed.

[UMFan83]

Is this supposed to be funny?

 

sportsguy33 Bill Simmons

Hey Cubs: we'll give you Theo, Lackey and Dice-K for 15k and 3 deep dish pies to be named later. Let's do this.

[imb]

Is he off his meds? i dont have any idea what he thinks he's even saying

[17 Seconds]

he isn't happy that theo is gone. he's mentioning diasuke and lackey to make fun of the red sox

[Gmoney23]

Off Topic but Theo and Ricketts were at Michael Jordans Steakhouse tonight.. had dinner in the private dining room with a party of 18.

[Guest]

Is that place even any good? I'm surprised Tom didn't opt for something a little more tried and true, like David Burke's.

 

That's pretty cool, though.

[El Duderino]

Off Topic but Theo and Ricketts were at Michael Jordans Steakhouse tonight.. had dinner in the private dining room with a party of 18.

 

nonsense. I'd like a full rundown on what Theo ate and drank.

[Gmoney23]

Is that place even any good? I'm surprised Tom didn't opt for something a little more tried and true, like David Burke's.

 

That's pretty cool, though.

 

Jordan's is pretty decent, its in the intercontinental hotel. Beautiful restaurant, good service, and food. I'd say its one of the three or four best high end steakhouses in the city right now.

[BCVM22]

Off Topic but Theo and Ricketts were at Michael Jordans Steakhouse tonight.. had dinner in the private dining room with a party of 18.

 

This is what I want more of from this thread now that he's officially a member of the Cubs: stories of Theo getting to know his new city. Beyond Starbucks, that is.

[doschi]

If Theo's interested in starting another band in Chicago, I'd like to offer my services as keyboard player. I'd happily take payment in the form of the occasional seat in the owner's box.

[C.C.]

Off Topic but Theo and Ricketts were at Michael Jordans Steakhouse tonight.. had dinner in the private dining room with a party of 18.

 

 

Was it Jordan new steakhouse? I heard it was fantastic.

[C.C.]

Is that place even any good? I'm surprised Tom didn't opt for something a little more tried and true, like David Burke's.

 

That's pretty cool, though.

 

Jordan's is pretty decent, its in the intercontinental hotel. Beautiful restaurant, good service, and food. I'd say its one of the three or four best high end steakhouses in the city right now.

 

Didn't see this post before I posted. Yeah, friends of mine ate there and said it was really good. At least it wasn't Gibson or gene and georgetti's, which is highly overrated.

[Banedon]

Is this supposed to be funny?

 

sportsguy33 Bill Simmons

Hey Cubs: we'll give you Theo, Lackey and Dice-K for 15k and 3 deep dish pies to be named later. Let's do this.

 

That tweet is like several days old, isn't it?

 

Edit: Yep, from Oct 17.

[Laura]

If Theo to Chicago is official, we officially have all the leverage in negotiations right?

 

Only if you trust Selig not to screw us if the RedSox dig in their heels until Nov 1.

 

At least the fantasy notion that Boston would keep Theo and/or pay him to sit out a year is now off the table.

[C.C.]

If Theo to Chicago is official, we officially have all the leverage in negotiations right?

 

Only if you trust Selig not to screw us if the RedSox dig in their heels until Nov 1.

 

At least the fantasy notion that Boston would keep Theo and/or pay him to sit out a year is now off the table.

 

Selig not going to screw anyone. I'm sure it'll be fair and he wants it done with.

[Banedon]

This is like 10 days old, but I hadn't seen it here. TangoTiger uses salary comparisons to players to try to figure out appropriate compensation for Theo.

 

http://www.insidethebook.com/ee/index.php/site/comments/proper_compensation_for_epstein/

 

While I agree with his conclusion, I'm not buying that a player/GM salary comparison holds a lot of weight.

[UMFan83]

Is this supposed to be funny?

 

sportsguy33 Bill Simmons

Hey Cubs: we'll give you Theo, Lackey and Dice-K for 15k and 3 deep dish pies to be named later. Let's do this.

 

That tweet is like several days old, isn't it?

 

Edit: Yep, from Oct 17.

 

Meh, it was at the top of my twitter and whether it was posted this week or last its pretty stupid sounding. We get it, Theo signed a couple of bad contracts and you're mad he "ran" away from them. Ah yes and Chicago has deep dish pizza.

[Little Slide Rooter]

This is like 10 days old, but I hadn't seen it here. TangoTiger uses salary comparisons to players to try to figure out appropriate compensation for Theo.

 

http://www.insidethebook.com/ee/index.php/site/comments/proper_compensation_for_epstein/

 

While I agree with his conclusion, I'm not buying that a player/GM salary comparison holds a lot of weight.

 

I don't know if I agree with that. The guys he mentioned are a step above role players. Epstein is a guy who should be able to change the face of a franchise for years to come. I know that he only had a year left with the Red Sox, and the relationship had expired, but it's all about supply and demand. Say you have a car you plan on junking. All of the sudden, some guy comes to you and says hey, I really want your car, how much? Unless it's a close friend, chances are you're going to try to get as much for it as possible, but hopefully not getting too greedy. It's reasonable to ask for a few thousand for it, assuming it's still in good shape, but if you ask for $10,000, then that's just greedy.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I don't know if I agree with that. The guys he mentioned are a step above role players. Epstein is a guy who should be able to change the face of a franchise for years to come. I know that he only had a year left with the Red Sox, and the relationship had expired, but it's all about supply and demand. Say you have a car you plan on junking. All of the sudden, some guy comes to you and says hey, I really want your car, how much? Unless it's a close friend, chances are you're going to try to get as much for it as possible, but hopefully not getting too greedy. It's reasonable to ask for a few thousand for it, assuming it's still in good shape, but if you ask for $10,000, then that's just greedy.

 

The face of the franchise for years to come changed when Ricketts decided that he wanted an analytical, sabr-savvy front office on the cutting edge of baseball. As exciting as Epstein is, there were other people out there who could implement that strategy. Epstein isn't exactly fungible, but he's in that ballpark.

[Banedon]

Is this supposed to be funny?

 

sportsguy33 Bill Simmons

Hey Cubs: we'll give you Theo, Lackey and Dice-K for 15k and 3 deep dish pies to be named later. Let's do this.

 

That tweet is like several days old, isn't it?

 

Edit: Yep, from Oct 17.

 

Meh, it was at the top of my twitter and whether it was posted this week or last its pretty stupid sounding. We get it, Theo signed a couple of bad contracts and you're mad he "ran" away from them. Ah yes and Chicago has deep dish pizza.

 

I think it was just a lame joke. I don't think he's actually nearly as bitter sounding as the people on SoSH are.

[UMFan83]

This is like 10 days old, but I hadn't seen it here. TangoTiger uses salary comparisons to players to try to figure out appropriate compensation for Theo.

 

http://www.insidethebook.com/ee/index.php/site/comments/proper_compensation_for_epstein/

 

While I agree with his conclusion, I'm not buying that a player/GM salary comparison holds a lot of weight.

 

I don't know if I agree with that. The guys he mentioned are a step above role players. Epstein is a guy who should be able to change the face of a franchise for years to come. I know that he only had a year left with the Red Sox, and the relationship had expired, but it's all about supply and demand. Say you have a car you plan on junking. All of the sudden, some guy comes to you and says hey, I really want your car, how much? Unless it's a close friend, chances are you're going to try to get as much for it as possible, but hopefully not getting too greedy. It's reasonable to ask for a few thousand for it, assuming it's still in good shape, but if you ask for $10,000, then that's just greedy.

 

What if your car told you he didn't want you to drive it anymore, and the perspective owner already filled out the paperwork to move the title into that new person's name, which is perfectly acceptable because you gave them permission to talk to the car.

[UMFan83]

Is this supposed to be funny?

 

sportsguy33 Bill Simmons

Hey Cubs: we'll give you Theo, Lackey and Dice-K for 15k and 3 deep dish pies to be named later. Let's do this.

 

That tweet is like several days old, isn't it?

 

Edit: Yep, from Oct 17.

 

Meh, it was at the top of my twitter and whether it was posted this week or last its pretty stupid sounding. We get it, Theo signed a couple of bad contracts and you're mad he "ran" away from them. Ah yes and Chicago has deep dish pizza.

 

I think it was just a lame joke. I don't think he's actually nearly as bitter sounding as the people on SoSH are.

 

Not at all....pure hilarity over there.

[Little Slide Rooter]

This is like 10 days old, but I hadn't seen it here. TangoTiger uses salary comparisons to players to try to figure out appropriate compensation for Theo.

 

http://www.insidethebook.com/ee/index.php/site/comments/proper_compensation_for_epstein/

 

While I agree with his conclusion, I'm not buying that a player/GM salary comparison holds a lot of weight.

 

I don't know if I agree with that. The guys he mentioned are a step above role players. Epstein is a guy who should be able to change the face of a franchise for years to come. I know that he only had a year left with the Red Sox, and the relationship had expired, but it's all about supply and demand. Say you have a car you plan on junking. All of the sudden, some guy comes to you and says hey, I really want your car, how much? Unless it's a close friend, chances are you're going to try to get as much for it as possible, but hopefully not getting too greedy. It's reasonable to ask for a few thousand for it, assuming it's still in good shape, but if you ask for $10,000, then that's just greedy.

 

What if your car told you he didn't want you to drive it anymore, and the perspective owner already filled out the paperwork to move the title into that new person's name, which is perfectly acceptable because you gave them permission to talk to the car.

 

The bottom line is that Theo was under contract with The Red Sox for another year, and whether or not he would be let out of it was up to Henry. I'm not saying that he should be doing it the way he is, but he has the right to do so. To be honest, I think he's doing it more to spite Theo than The Cubs. They shouldn't be doing what they're doing, but they have the right to, so they're trying to juice us for whatever they can get. I'm sure they planned it this way from the moment they granted Ricketts permission to talk to him. It's capitalism.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

What the [expletive]? Who keeps deleting my posts?

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