Gaub, Montanez and LaMahieu Called Up

[jersey cubs fan]

Understandable given the day in the sport, where anyone can pick up the numbers game and suddenly be an expert on player evaluation.

 

What kind of nonsensical jackass statement is this and in what way does it come close to responding to what I wrote?

[SouthSideRyan]

Cockiness is good. Thinking you belong in the majors is a good thing. A good coach will channel this energy into proving it on the field. A bad coach will call him a baby for whining and put him the doghouse until he's claimed by another team.

 

It's a great thing to have cockiness in your own mind. It's not a great thing to tweet it to the detriment of your organization. Also, it helps when your performance backs it up. In Carpenter's case, he hasn't done that.

 

The only difference between Carpenter and some guy that was pissed about not getting a call-up 20 years ago is that Carpenter has the means to instantly express his feelings to the public.

[KingKongvs.Godzilla]

Understandable given the day in the sport, where anyone can pick up the numbers game and suddenly be an expert on player evaluation.

 

What kind of nonsensical jackass statement is this and in what way does it come close to responding to what I wrote?

 

No less nonsensical or jackassy than "this is a weird way to think." Good thing that made up maybe a quarter of my post...Why so hostile?

 

Cockiness is good. Thinking you belong in the majors is a good thing. A good coach will channel this energy into proving it on the field. A bad coach will call him a baby for whining and put him the doghouse until he's claimed by another team.

 

Cockiness can be good, sure. Tweeting about how you worked hard and therefore should have been called up isn't what most would call cockiness. He'll see the majors, and it will be with the Cubs (unless he's involved in a trade for an obvious upgrade somewhere else on the roster).

 

The only difference between Carpenter and some guy that was pissed about not getting a call-up 20 years ago is that Carpenter has the means to instantly express his feelings to the public.

 

Don't forget another difference:

 

The mentality that it's fine to do something like that in a public domain because people say and do stupid [expletive] through that medium all the time. It's not, and he shouldn't have.

Edited September 7, 2011 by KingKongvs.Godzilla

[Ding Dong Johnson]

You post too much.

[SouthSideRyan]

Understandable given the day in the sport, where anyone can pick up the numbers game and suddenly be an expert on player evaluation.

 

What kind of nonsensical jackass statement is this and in what way does it come close to responding to what I wrote?

 

No less nonsensical or jackassy than "this is a weird way to think." Good thing that made up maybe a quarter of my post...Why so hostile?

 

Cockiness is good. Thinking you belong in the majors is a good thing. A good coach will channel this energy into proving it on the field. A bad coach will call him a baby for whining and put him the doghouse until he's claimed by another team.

 

Cockiness can be good, sure. Tweeting about how you worked hard and therefore should have been called up isn't what most would call cockiness. He'll see the majors, and it will be with the Cubs (unless he's involved in a trade for an obvious upgrade somewhere else on the roster).

 

The only difference between Carpenter and some guy that was pissed about not getting a call-up 20 years ago is that Carpenter has the means to instantly express his feelings to the public.

 

Don't forget another difference:

 

The mentality that it's fine to do something like that in a public domain because people say and do stupid [expletive] through that medium all the time. It's not, and he shouldn't have.

 

Yep, professional athletes are known for their reasoned well-thought out responses to disappointment.

Edited September 7, 2011 by SouthSideRyan

[KingKongvs.Godzilla]

You post too much.

 

I'm noticing that. I've got like 7 last posts in a row on the front page. What's with that?

 

Oooor by your word choice is this going in a more hostile direction and I'll soon be notified that I need to apply for an Old Boy's card?

[KingKongvs.Godzilla]

Yep, athletes who professional athletes are known for their reasoned well-thought out responses to disappointment.

 

That's not an excuse. These guys get coached on stuff like this too...It's childish at best on his part.

 

3 in a row. Wow.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Maybe he really did get called up but Dorn was [expletive] with him and told him he didn't so he'd storm into Quades office and give him a piece of his mind.

[Magnetic Curses]

You post too much.

 

he has like 1100 posts since 2004 and then all of a sudden, bam, he loses his mind, changes his name and starts on some sort of jihad against statistical evaluation. he must have had a life-changing event.

[KingKongvs.Godzilla]

 

he has like 1100 posts since 2004 and then all of a sudden, bam, he loses his mind, changes his name and starts on some sort of jihad against statistical evaluation. he must have had a life-changing event.

 

I am not against statistical analysis. Not even close really....I just have chosen to blend the two because it makes sense to do so. Numbers are a huge part of analysis, but you're still missing something if that's all that you consider. There's cases where the results will lag behind, ESPECIALLY in young, nonestablished players. That makes them risks obviously, but solid scouting can help mitigate that (as can looking at more numbers).

[TruffleShuffle]

right, but you seem to fancy yourself as kind of an expert scout, with opinions like moustakas is going to have serious contact issues even though he's basically struck out at the same rate as vitters for the past 5 years.

 

i also have no idea how you've watched all these cub prospects play to have scouting opinions on them.

[Derwood]

 

i also have no idea how you've watched all these cub prospects play to have scouting opinions on them.

 

maybe we now know Fleita's user name

[Ding Dong Johnson]

 

i also have no idea how you've watched all these cub prospects play to have scouting opinions on them.

 

maybe we now know Fleita's user name

Fleita picked a dumb one.

[KingKongvs.Godzilla]

right, but you seem to fancy yourself as kind of an expert scout, with opinions like moustakas is going to have serious contact issues even though he's basically struck out at the same rate as vitters for the past 5 years.

 

i also have no idea how you've watched all these cub prospects play to have scouting opinions on them.

 

Yes, I do have baseball opinions, despite lacking the degree in rocket science required to form any. I'm not the only person who holds this train of thought with Moustakas (and I provided a link in that argument), and I gave my reasons. It's not as if his numbers are a guarantee to translate perfectly to the majors, and he hit in some very, very favorable conditions (some of the best in the minors for hitters really) making it even less likely so. He gives up athleticism and size to Vitters too, which won't really help in the long run.

 

I have no idea how you find it unbelievable that I can form an informed opinion on prospects in an age where many, many, many writers exist pumping out lists and reports, Youtube offers video, MiLB.com offers games and highlights, and websites offer daily box scores and reports. I fancy myself as someone who's seen a whole lot of baseball and can form an opinion on players without wondering whether I'm worthy to do such a thing. Why I'm even dignifying this stuff with a response...

 

But just out of curiosity, what are the board requirements to have opinions on baseball? How would I go about fulfilling these requirements? Do I need to switch my major or anything?

[imb]

You need to add Rodan to your screen name

[SouthSideRyan]

You need to add Rodan to your screen name

 

I'm pissed that nickname never took off for Lee.

[Little Slide Rooter]

You need to add Rodan to your screen name

 

Super Shark vs. Mega Gator

[Tryptamine]

The sharktopus can't be stopped.

 

http://www.hulu.com/watch/165345/syfy-original-movies-sharktopus

[biittner77]

Yay, so happy we get to see more Lou Montanez. :roll:

 

and people say he was a first round bust. HA