08/23 Atlanta (Minor) @ CUBS (Coleman) 7:05 CDT, CSN TV

[Fred Hornkohl]

Ramirez            AB    R    H   2b   3b   HR  RBI   BB   SO     BA    OBP    SLG    OPS  BABIP  P/PA     RC   IsoD   RBI%
bases empty       244   31   76   19    0   10   10    8   29  0.311  0.349  0.512  0.861  0.322  3.19   43.6  0.037  0.000
Late (7th on)     134   17   38    6    0    6   20   12   24  0.284  0.351  0.463  0.814  0.308  3.51   21.8  0.068  0.194
2 outs            165   17   48   11    0    9   28   12   20  0.291  0.350  0.521  0.871  0.287  3.44   30.1  0.059  0.162
CUBS trailing     198   28   60   10    0   10   33    9   30  0.303  0.336  0.505  0.842  0.316  3.32   33.6  0.033  0.223
last 7 games       26    4   14    1    0    3    9    5    1  0.538  0.594  0.923  1.517  0.500  3.19   14.3  0.055  0.600
August             69   12   28    3    0    5   18    7    5  0.406  0.456  0.667  1.122  0.390  3.16   21.0  0.050  0.333
Home              226   31   73   14    0   14   42   16   27  0.323  0.369  0.571  0.940  0.319  3.24   47.7  0.046  0.228
Nite              251   33   79   14    0   10   39   11   30  0.315  0.351  0.490  0.841  0.327  3.23   43.1  0.036  0.200
vs Right          359   53  113   24    0   20   68   22   44  0.315  0.362  0.549  0.911  0.315  3.25   71.3  0.047  0.229
vs Kimbrel          1    0    1    0    0    0    0    0    0  1.000  1.000  1.000  2.000  1.000  5.00    1.0  0.000  0.000
vs. Atla           17    3    9    0    0    0    1    1    2  0.529  0.526  0.529  1.056  0.600  3.11    4.7 -0.003  0.111
Jeff Nelson         4    1    1    0    0    0    1    0    2  0.250  0.200  0.250  0.450  0.500  3.60    0.2 -0.050  0.333

season totals     461   64  140   29    0   24   81   28   59  0.304  0.349  0.523  0.872  0.307  3.27   84.2  0.046  0.221

[bukie]

At some point, I hope someone associated with the Cubs realizes Marlon Byrd has no business playing every day. This is his 44th game played at Wrigley Field with 180 plate appearances and he has 2 home runs and 7 rbis while batting 3-4-5-6 most of the time. So he has driven himself in twice and only 5 other guys all year. People might not like the "old school" stats but those are rather telling of how unproductive he has been all year. He is basically another pitcher in the line-up at home this year.

 

.293 .330 .395 .725 at home.

 

I agree he usually shouldn't hit higher than 6, but your overreaction is hysterical. He's not an everyday player because of that line? OK then.

Straight out of the figures lie and liars figure handbook. Those numbers mean very little when he doesn't hit with men on base. You have to score runs to win and Byrd rarely helps that happen. How anyone can deny his lack of production is mind numbing and hysterically funny.

 

.204/.255/.306 with runners in scoring position this year. You can have him on your team, I prefer a better player.

Speaking of pots and kettles...

 

Career overall: .283/.341/.423/.764

Career RISP: .276/.344/.418/.762

[Sammy Sofa]

At some point, I hope someone associated with the Cubs realizes Marlon Byrd has no business playing every day. This is his 44th game played at Wrigley Field with 180 plate appearances and he has 2 home runs and 7 rbis while batting 3-4-5-6 most of the time. So he has driven himself in twice and only 5 other guys all year. People might not like the "old school" stats but those are rather telling of how unproductive he has been all year. He is basically another pitcher in the line-up at home this year.

 

.293 .330 .395 .725 at home.

 

I agree he usually shouldn't hit higher than 6, but your overreaction is hysterical. He's not an everyday player because of that line? OK then.

Straight out of the figures lie and liars figure handbook. Those numbers mean very little when he doesn't hit with men on base. You have to score runs to win and Byrd rarely helps that happen. How anyone can deny his lack of production is mind numbing and hysterically funny.

 

.204/.255/.306 with runners in scoring position this year. You can have him on your team, I prefer a better player.

 

I didn't "deny his lack of production." I've stated numerous times I don't want him batting above 6 in the lineup. That said, your suggestion that he not play everyday is a ridiculous overreaction that seems to be suggesting that the only options are to bench or get rid of him. Why are you opposed to simply batting him lower in the lineup? He's not a completely unproductive hitter and still almost a 2 WAR player despite his struggles this year. He's having a bad year hitting with RISP; so your conclusion is that he's all but useless?

[Fred Hornkohl]

A Ramirez singled to right field , taking second on a fielding error, E9

[Sammy Sofa]

Aramis' first 5-hit game of his career. LOVE US, RAMMY.

 

Oh, and Aramis and Soriano both getting hustle doubles? DIE, MEATBALLS.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Colvin             AB    R    H   2b   3b   HR  RBI   BB   SO     BA    OBP    SLG    OPS  BABIP  P/PA     RC   IsoD   RBI%
Pinch hitting      14    1    2    1    0    0    3    1    3  0.143  0.200  0.214  0.414  0.182  4.56    0.6  0.057  0.231
RISP               33    2    3    0    0    1   10    6    6  0.091  0.225  0.182  0.407  0.077  3.71    1.4  0.134  0.164
Late (7th on)      63    5   11    4    0    1    6    4   15  0.175  0.224  0.286  0.510  0.213  3.56    4.0  0.049  0.143
2 outs             49    1    4    1    0    1    3    4   13  0.082  0.151  0.163  0.314  0.086  3.79    1.2  0.069  0.063
CUBS trailing      63    3   10    1    0    2    5    4   11  0.159  0.209  0.270  0.479  0.160  3.60    3.6  0.050  0.125
last 7 games       22    1    4    0    0    1    3    1    2  0.182  0.217  0.318  0.536  0.158  3.09    1.5  0.036  0.167
August             53    6   11    2    1    3    7    3   11  0.208  0.250  0.453  0.703  0.205  3.48    6.0  0.042  0.167
Home               55    3    6    1    0    2    8    7   15  0.109  0.210  0.236  0.446  0.105  3.95    2.7  0.101  0.188
Nite               78    8   15    5    1    3    7    5   14  0.192  0.238  0.397  0.636  0.197  3.71    7.4  0.046  0.154
vs Right          120   10   20    5    1    5   15   10   25  0.167  0.229  0.350  0.579  0.167  3.80    9.6  0.062  0.169
vs Kimbrel          0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.00    0.0  0.000  0.000
vs. Atla           13    2    3    1    1    0    2    0    3  0.231  0.231  0.462  0.692  0.300  3.23    1.4  0.000  0.250
Jeff Nelson         0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.00    0.0  0.000  0.000

season totals     155   11   22    6    1    5   16   11   37  0.142  0.198  0.290  0.488  0.150  3.74    8.9  0.056  0.139

[bukie]

A Ramirez doubled to right field

A Ramirez singled to right field , taking second on a fielding error, E9

Aramis trying to tie the game the only way he knows how, by doubling and then singling in the same AB.

[Sammy Sofa]

[expletive], [expletive], THIS COMES DOWN TO COLVIN.

 

Dammit.

[Sammy Sofa]

The Colvin AB was maybe the most predictable thing I've ever seen. I actually felt bad for him.

[Fred Hornkohl]

BOTTOM OF THE NINTH INNING

 

Kimbrel in (9th) to pitch for Atlanta

Castro struck out swinging

Johnson grounded out to third, 5-3

A Ramirez singled to right field , taking second on a fielding error, E9

Colvin, pinch hitting for Marshall, struck out swinging

 

0 runs 1 hits 1 errors 1 men left on base

 

                1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9              R  H  E
Atlanta         0 0 0 5 0 0 0 0 0              5  9  3
CUBS            0 0 0 0 4 0 0 0 0              4 10  0

 

W: Minor (4-2)

S: Kimbrel (40)

L: Coleman (2-6)

 

T: 2:54

A: 36,639

 

Home runs:

Atlanta: Heyward (13)

CUBS: Soriano (21)

 

Atlanta        IP  H  R ER BB  K HR PIT
Minor         5.0  6  4  3  0  6  1  85
Martinez      1.3  3  0  0  0  2  0  20
Sherrill      0.3  0  0  0  0  1  0   6
Vizcaino      1.3  0  0  0  0  1  0  16
Kimbrel       1.0  1  0  0  0  2  0  16

 

CUBS           IP  H  R ER BB  K HR PIT
Coleman       5.0  5  5  5  2  4  1  86
Grabow        1.0  2  0  0  1  2  0  19
Wood          1.0  0  0  0  0  2  0  14
Marshall      2.0  2  0  0  0  1  0  20

[Fred Hornkohl]

          Atlanta        CUBS
P/PA          3.66        3.67
RBI%          0.22        0.13
R/BR          0.42        0.33
BA           0.257       0.270
OBP          0.316       0.308
SLG          0.371       0.405
OPS          0.687       0.713
ERA           3.00        5.00
BB/9          0.00        3.00
K/9          11.00        9.00

[Fred Hornkohl]

Milwaukee     11
Pittsburgh     4  F

Cincinnati     8
Florida        6  F

LA Dodgers    11  9
St. Louis      0

Houston        5  7
Colorado       6

[Fred Hornkohl]

Tuesday 23 August 2011

Atlanta @ CUBS

19:05

 

 

                1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9              R  H  E
Atlanta         0 0 0 5 0 0 0 0 0              5  9  3
CUBS            0 0 0 0 4 0 0 0 0              4 10  0



Atlanta
                     ab   r   h rbi  bb   k lob  sb  cs sac gdp   e  2b  3b  hr  sf  hb
Bourn         cf       5   0   1   0   0   1   4   2   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Prado         lf       5   0   0   0   0   1   2   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
McCann        c        4   0   0   0   0   1   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Uggla         2b       4   1   1   0   0   2   1   0   0   0   0   1   0   0   0   0   0
Jones         3b       4   1   3   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Hinske        1b       3   1   1   0   1   1   2   0   0   0   0   0   1   0   0   0   0
Freeman       1b       0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Gonzalez      ss       3   1   0   1   1   1   3   0   0   0   1   1   0   0   0   0   0
Heyward       rf       4   1   3   4   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   1   0   0   1   0   0
Minor         p        2   0   0   0   0   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Lugo          ph       0   0   0   0   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Martinez      p        0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Sherrill      p        0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Vizcaino      p        0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Conrad        ph       1   0   0   0   0   1   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Kimbrel       p        0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0

totals                35   5   9   5   3   9  14   2   0   0   1   3   1   0   1   0   0



CUBS
                     ab   r   h rbi  bb   k lob  sb  cs sac gdp   e  2b  3b  hr  sf  hb
Castro        ss       5   0   1   0   0   2   2   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Johnson       rf       5   0   1   0   0   2   3   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
A Ramirez     3b       5   1   5   2   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   1   0   0   0   0
Baker         2b       3   0   0   1   0   0   3   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Grabow        p        0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Wood          p        0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
DeWitt        ph       0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   1
Marshall      p        0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Pena          1b       4   0   0   0   0   2   7   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Byrd          cf       4   0   0   0   0   1   4   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Soriano       lf       4   1   2   1   0   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   1   0   1   0   0
Soto          c        3   1   0   0   0   1   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   1
Coleman       p        1   0   0   0   0   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Barney        ph-2b    3   1   1   0   0   1   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0

totals                37   4  10   4   0  11  21   0   0   0   0   0   2   0   1   0   2



Atlanta
                 IP   H   R  ER  BB   K  HR  Pit
Minor            5.0   6   4   3   0   6   1   85
Martinez         1.3   3   0   0   0   2   0   20
Sherrill         0.3   0   0   0   0   1   0   6
Vizcaino         1.3   0   0   0   0   1   0   16
Kimbrel          1.0   1   0   0   0   2   0   16

totals           9.0  10   4   3   0  11   1  143


CUBS
                 IP   H   R  ER  BB   K  HR  Pit
Coleman          5.0   5   5   5   2   4   1   86
Grabow           1.0   2   0   0   1   2   0   19
Wood             1.0   0   0   0   0   2   0   14
Marshall         2.0   2   0   0   0   1   0   20

totals           9.0   9   5   5   3   9   1  139

W: Minor (4-2)
S: Kimbrel (40)
L: Coleman (2-6)

T:  2:54
A:  36,639

Home runs:
Atlanta: Heyward (13)
CUBS: Soriano (21)

[Fred Hornkohl]

Last time the CUBS opponents committed 3 errors in a game.... Sat 06 Aug 2011 (3 errors) in a 11-4 win over Cincinnati at Wrigley

 

 

Go CUBS !!

[bukie]

Aramis needs to teach the rest of the lineup to hit...and pitch, apparently.

[Sammy Sofa]

Kaplan riding Byrd for his RISP numbers. Good company to keep.

[Ballgame64]

 

I didn't "deny his lack of production." I've stated numerous times I don't want him batting above 6 in the lineup. That said, your suggestion that he not play everyday is a ridiculous overreaction that seems to be suggesting that the only options are to bench or get rid of him. Why are you opposed to simply batting him lower in the lineup? He's not a completely unproductive hitter and still almost a 2 WAR player despite his struggles this year. He's having a bad year hitting with RISP; so your conclusion is that he's all but useless?

Is Byrd completely useless? No but if you are not denying his lack of production, why should he play everyday? Dropping him to 6th doesn't change much in my opinion. He is what he is, a free swinger who rarely has a good at bat with runners on base. I just don't understand the need to play him every day.

[Sammy Sofa]

 

I didn't "deny his lack of production." I've stated numerous times I don't want him batting above 6 in the lineup. That said, your suggestion that he not play everyday is a ridiculous overreaction that seems to be suggesting that the only options are to bench or get rid of him. Why are you opposed to simply batting him lower in the lineup? He's not a completely unproductive hitter and still almost a 2 WAR player despite his struggles this year. He's having a bad year hitting with RISP; so your conclusion is that he's all but useless?

Is Byrd completely useless? No but if you are not denying his lack of production, why should he play everyday? Dropping him to 6th doesn't change much in my opinion. He is what he is, a free swinger who rarely has a good at bat with runners on base. I just don't understand the need to play him every day.

 

When you're slamming his RISP numbers you are just talking about this year, right? You keep sounding like you're generalizing, like he's always had these troubles.

 

And you don't see how dropping him in the order could lead him still being useful but ideally minimizing his troubles with RISP? Drop him to 7th or 8th.

 

And why not play him every day? He's likely going to be on the team next year, and the guys to play instead of him are Colvin, Campana and Johnson. Why would you want to start any of them in CF regularly over Byrd?

[UMFan83]

How can we identify the "clutch" skill set, for future reference?

[Ballgame64]

 

I didn't "deny his lack of production." I've stated numerous times I don't want him batting above 6 in the lineup. That said, your suggestion that he not play everyday is a ridiculous overreaction that seems to be suggesting that the only options are to bench or get rid of him. Why are you opposed to simply batting him lower in the lineup? He's not a completely unproductive hitter and still almost a 2 WAR player despite his struggles this year. He's having a bad year hitting with RISP; so your conclusion is that he's all but useless?

Is Byrd completely useless? No but if you are not denying his lack of production, why should he play everyday? Dropping him to 6th doesn't change much in my opinion. He is what he is, a free swinger who rarely has a good at bat with runners on base. I just don't understand the need to play him every day.

 

When you're slamming his RISP numbers you are just talking about this year, right? You keep sounding like you're generalizing, like he's always had these troubles.

 

And you don't see how dropping him in the order could lead him still being useful but ideally minimizing his troubles with RISP? Drop him to 7th or 8th.

 

And why not play him every day? He's likely going to be on the team next year, and the guys to play instead of him are Colvin, Campana and Johnson. Why would you want to start any of them in CF regularly over Byrd?

I think Marlon started struggling when the Cubs moved him to the 3rd spot last year after D Lee was traded. Maybe he is trying to be something he isn't and maybe he is trying to justify the Cubs faith in him, I don't know.

 

I would hit him 7th or 8th depending on who is playing. I do agree with you that Colvin, Campana and Johnson are not good options so there isn't much more to do this year. Byrd is about to turn 34 so while he will likely be on the team next year, I hope it is not as an everyday player. I hope the new GM can make a couple of moves to upgrade the outfield options for the Cubs.

[CubmanPi]

Aramis' first 5-hit game of his career. LOVE US, RAMMY.

 

Oh, and Aramis and Soriano both getting hustle doubles? DIE, MEATBALLS.

Clearly, there is a gross failure of the Atlanta sports media to recognize that they have players who have somehow managed to out-lazy the laziest lazies in baseball. Beyond that, nothing to see here.

[CubmanPi]

Also, I really enjoyed having the realization tonight that, with all of the awesome Ramirez has been bringing to the table in his career, Castro had a 5-hit game first.

 

mmmm, Castro.

[Sammy Sofa]

I would hit him 7th or 8th depending on who is playing. I do agree with you that Colvin, Campana and Johnson are not good options so there isn't much more to do this year. Byrd is about to turn 34 so while he will likely be on the team next year, I hope it is not as an everyday player. I hope the new GM can make a couple of moves to upgrade the outfield options for the Cubs.

 

This is a really weird hope. You're assuming that this season, where he lost a ton of time with a serious injury, is, what, the "real Byrd?" That he's started a sharp decline and there's no chance he has similar numbers to what he's put up over the last 4 season? Why are you so convinced he's effectively useless as a fulltime player? Are you basing this almost totally on his 2011 numbers when it comes to hitting with RISP?

 

You seem to be taking an all or nothing approach with Byrd. He's not a guy you want hitting 1-5. He's useful hitting 6-8.

[Little Slide Rooter]

I would hit him 7th or 8th depending on who is playing. I do agree with you that Colvin, Campana and Johnson are not good options so there isn't much more to do this year. Byrd is about to turn 34 so while he will likely be on the team next year, I hope it is not as an everyday player. I hope the new GM can make a couple of moves to upgrade the outfield options for the Cubs.

 

This is a really weird hope. You're assuming that this season, where he lost a ton of time with a serious injury, is, what, the "real Byrd?" That he's started a sharp decline and there's no chance he has similar numbers to what he's put up over the last 4 season? Why are you so convinced he's effectively useless as a fulltime player? Are you basing this almost totally on his 2011 numbers when it comes to hitting with RISP?

 

You seem to be taking an all or nothing approach with Byrd. He's not a guy you want hitting 1-5. He's useful hitting 6-8.

 

A big problem with the Cubs is that aside from Castro and Ramirez, the lineup is full of guys who would be useful hitting 6-8.