Minor League Discussion & Boxes 6-9-11

[Outshined_One]

Box Scores

 

Iowa suspended (down 8-1 in the 4th Box Score)

 

Tennessee won 9-3 Box Score

 

SS J. Lake 2/4, BB, 3 R, RBI, HR (1), K, E (4, throw)

2B R. Flaherty 3/4, BB, R, RBI, 2 2B (15)

LF R. Ridling 1/5, RBI, 2 K

CF M. Spencer 1/5, RBI, 2B (14), 3 K

3B J. Vitters 2/4, R, 2 RBI, 2B (13), HR (6), E (15, throw)

RF N. Perez 0/5, 3 K, Assist (2B)

PH L. Flores 0/1, K

SP B. Raley 6.2 IP, 7 H, 3 R, 2 ER, 1 BB, 4 K, 8-3 GO-FO

RP R. Searle 1.1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 0 K, WP, 1-3 GO-FO

K. Smit 1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 1 K, 1-1 GO-FO

 

Daytona won 4-3 Box Score

 

LF E. Crawford 2/5, 2 RBI, 2B (13)

2B M. Cerda 1/5, R, K

DH JH Ha 1/5, 2B (11), 2 K

1B J. Bour 1/5, 2 K

RF M. Burgess 0/4, RBI, K

C M. Brenly 1/4

CF R. Silva 0/3, K, E (2, fielding)

SS L. Watkins 2/2, 2 BB, 2 R, SB (6)

SP Z. Rosscup 3.2 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 6 K, 2-1 GO-FO

RP M. Loosen 3 IP, 4 H, 1 ER, 1 BB, 3 K, 0-4 GO-FO

RP M. Hatley 1.1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 1 K, HBP, 1-1 GO-FO

RP F. Batista 2 IP, 3 H, 2 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 2 K, 2-2 GO-FO

RP B. Ebinger 1 IP, 2 H, 1 ER, 0 BB, 2 K, HR, HBP, 0-1 GO-FO

 

Peoria lost 3-1 Box Score

 

CF M. Szczur 0/3, BB, R

1B R. Cuneo 1/3, RBI, K

3B G. Rohan 0/4, E (5, missed catch)

C M. Gibbs 0/3, BB, PB (2)

DH B. May 1/3, BB

SS A. Alcantara 2/4, K, E (21, throw)

LF KM Na 0/3, K

SP C. Greathouse 5 IP, 1 H, 3 R, 2 ER, 6 BB, 3 K, 3 HBP, 6-3 GO-FO

RP Y. Gonzalez 3 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 4 K, 4-0 GO-FO

RP C. Harman 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 2 K, 1-0 GO-FO

 

DSL Cubs 1 lost 6-3 Box Score

 

CF J. Baez 0/5, K

SS F. Sanchez 1/4, BB, 3B (1), 2 K, 2 E (5, pickoff, throw)

LF/1B X. Batista 0/2, BB, R, HBP

C H. Suarez 0/3, BB, R, K

1B G. Jimenez 0/1, BB, 2 E (3, missed catch, pickoff)

SP V. Salazar 4 IP, 1 H, 2 R, 0 ER, 4 BB, 2 K, WP, HBP, 7-2 GO-FO

RP Y. Morel .1 IP, 1 H, 2 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 0 K

 

DSL Cubs 2 won 7-6 Box Score

 

DH A. Gonzalez 1/3, 2 BB, 2 BB

SS C. Penalver 3/4, 4 RBI

1B/3B J. Candelario 1/2, 2 BB, R

RF D. Arcila 1/4, R, RBI, 2B (2), K

C S. De La Cruz 0/3, R, HBP

2B J. Ortega 0/1

 

OVERALL: 3-2

[Guest]

Probable Starters

 

Iowa: RHP Alberto Cabrera (0-1, 8.00 ERA, 9 IP, 3 K, 6 BB; overall: 6-3, 5.77 ERA, 57.2 IP, 37 K, 27 BB)

Tennessee: LHP Brooks Raley (2-5, 5.10 ERA, 54.2 IP, 31 K, 27 BB)

Daytona: LHP Zach Rosscup (3-1, 3.08 ERA, 38 IP, 33 K, 13 BB)

Peoria: LHP Cam Greathouse (4-3, 3.70 ERA, 48.2 IP, 45 K, 43 BB)

[NCCubFan]

Adonis Chapman is rehabbing with Carolina. Good chance the Smokies see him sometime during the series.

[pitchcs]

Adonis Chapman is rehabbing with Carolina. Good chance the Smokies see him sometime during the series.

 

Aroldis....not trying to be nit picky, just correcting in case you really do have it mixed up in that brain.

[HossmanGT]

Probable Starters

 

Iowa: RHP Alberto Cabrera (0-1, 8.00 ERA, 9 IP, 3 K, 6 BB; overall: 6-3, 5.77 ERA, 57.2 IP, 37 K, 27 BB)

Tennessee: LHP Brooks Raley (2-5, 5.10 ERA, 54.2 IP, 31 K, 27 BB)

Daytona: LHP Zach Rosscup (3-1, 3.08 ERA, 38 IP, 33 K, 13 BB)

Peoria: LHP Cam Greathouse (4-3, 3.70 ERA, 48.2 IP, 45 K, 43 BB)

 

Can't wait for McNutt to return....getting tired of these blah pitching nights.

[BeerHere]

I remember at least a few people being pretty excited that we signed Raley last year. What has happened? Has he failed to live up to expectations or is that about what we should expect from him?

[Guest]

I remember at least a few people being pretty excited that we signed Raley last year. What has happened? Has he failed to live up to expectations or is that about what we should expect from him?

 

He's definitely been a disappointment. He had a strong second half last year and has failed to build off that.

[NCCubFan]

Adonis Chapman is rehabbing with Carolina. Good chance the Smokies see him sometime during the series.

 

Aroldis....not trying to be nit picky, just correcting in case you really do have it mixed up in that brain.

I knew it was Ar-something-is, and I was too lazy to look it up.

[Outshined_One]

I remember at least a few people being pretty excited that we signed Raley last year. What has happened? Has he failed to live up to expectations or is that about what we should expect from him?

 

He's definitely been a disappointment. He had a strong second half last year and has failed to build off that.

 

Adding on to what Raisin said, Raley when he was drafted profiled as a somewhat fringy LHP, as he was a two-way player in college. The thought was, with a full-time commitment to pitching, Raley's stuff and performance could improve and he'd have a shot at being a middle of the rotation type of pitcher. Aside from his second half last season, that really does not seem to be the case with him.

 

He still has time, but the results so far have been lackluster, overall.

[craig]

...Raley when he was drafted profiled as a somewhat fringy LHP, as he was a two-way player in college. The thought was, with a full-time commitment to pitching, Raley's stuff and performance could improve and he'd have a shot at being a middle of the rotation type of pitcher. Aside from his second half last season, that really does not seem to be the case with him.....

 

Yes. The Cubs paid him a lot, $750 K, like a high 2nd rounder.

 

He was drafted as a projection pick, happens all the time, except he hasn't grown into any of his projection. He was young and skinny, and was starting with supposedly good control, high 80's velocity that sometimes got into low 90's, and OK breaking stuff. The projection was that he'd fill out, get faster, and sharpen his breaking stuff. That projection was some focusing from 2-way to pitcher only, but even more so based on normal physical projection/maturation.

 

Unfortunately none of those projected things has happened. His fastball has not gotten any faster (and may be a little slower), and his breaking stuff hasn't gotten any sharper. He's basically the same stuff that he had as a college fresh/soph.

 

Cubs drafted a bunch of projection guys this week. Gretzky is supposed to add thirty pounds and grow a bunch of power. Scott Taylor is projected. Schlect is projection. Dunston is projection. Brad Zimmer. Sometimes it happens, sometimes it doesn't.

[abohnhoff]

Good night for the Tennessee hitters. HR's for Lalli, Lake and Vitters. All 3 have 2 hits apiece.

[HossmanGT]

Where has Brett Jackson been the past couple nights? Noticed he was a DH on Tuesday, and has not been in the lineup since...

[Guest]

Vitters up to a .278 batting average and an OPS over .750!

[Scotti]

Vitters up to a .278 batting average and an OPS over .750!

 

He's got an 8 game hitting streak--11 for 27 (.407) with 2 2B, 1 HR, 1 SB, 2 BB and 3 K. When he gets hot he either stays hot, gets hurt or gets promoted.

 

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Rosscup with 6 K's on his birthday. Nice. His piggyback partner has been hot all year (albeit mostly in Mesa):

 

http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?pos=P&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=594905

 

Loosen is starting to become intriguing.

Edited June 10, 2011 by Scotti

[Scotti]

I remember at least a few people being pretty excited that we signed Raley last year. What has happened? Has he failed to live up to expectations or is that about what we should expect from him?

 

He's definitely been a disappointment. He had a strong second half last year and has failed to build off that.

 

Adding on to what Raisin said, Raley when he was drafted profiled as a somewhat fringy LHP, as he was a two-way player in college. The thought was, with a full-time commitment to pitching, Raley's stuff and performance could improve and he'd have a shot at being a middle of the rotation type of pitcher. Aside from his second half last season, that really does not seem to be the case with him.

 

He still has time, but the results so far have been lackluster, overall.

 

FWIW, including last night, Raley is 3-2, 2.86 ERA, 34.2 IP (5.8 IP per start), 37 H (9.60 H/9), 2 HR (0.52 H/9), 3.37 BB/9, 5.19 K/9 over his last six starts. Hits are still high but everything in an improvement from his first six starts.

[Scotti]

Good night for the Tennessee hitters. HR's for Lalli, Lake and Vitters. All 3 have 2 hits apiece.

 

Lake deserved the promotion (he's been handling Daytona very well for about a year now) but he sure has started out S L O W. However, he has two straight 2-hit games now with a HR and a WALK. Too early to tell but good news. He is NOT a leadoff hitter, though.

[craig]

He's got an 8 game hitting streak--11 for 27 (.407) with 2 2B, 1 HR, 1 SB, 2 BB and 3 K. When he gets hot he either stays hot, gets hurt or gets promoted.

 

Nice to see him hit a hot streak, he'd seemed to be non-hot for a relatively long time. While the hot --> injury or promotion is funny joke, he was hot in April, and was up in the high .300's and the .900's OPS for a while, then obviously he chilled out. I was surprised he stayed so mediocre for such a long time. Usually guys have their highs and lows, and he seemed to be plugging along as a .700-OPS type for a longer than usual time, I'd expect more variation.

 

Final composite includes both the highs and the lows, so will be interesting if he can extend his current high a little bit longer than he's been able to do before. As hitters mature, I think sometimes they get better at shortening and shallowing the lows, and extending the highs.

[Guest]

Vitters up to a .278 batting average and an OPS over .750!

 

He's got an 8 game hitting streak--11 for 27 (.407) with 2 2B, 1 HR, 1 SB, 2 BB and 3 K. When he gets hot he either stays hot, gets hurt or gets promoted.

 

*

 

Rosscup with 6 K's on his birthday. Nice. His piggyback partner has been hot all year (albeit mostly in Mesa):

 

http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?pos=P&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=594905

 

Loosen is starting to become intriguing.

 

Loosen was interesting me with his play in Mesa but I'm pretty impressed with the way he came out of the gate with a bang at Daytona.

[thefranchise]

Jeimer Candelario and Carlos Penalver both had good games again. Candelario is a walking machine

[Guest]

Jeimer Candelario and Carlos Penalver both had good games again. Candelario is a walking machine

 

Penalver is taking bases on balls at a great rate too, just not Candelario great.

[Scotti]

He's got an 8 game hitting streak--11 for 27 (.407) with 2 2B, 1 HR, 1 SB, 2 BB and 3 K. When he gets hot he either stays hot, gets hurt or gets promoted.

 

Nice to see him hit a hot streak, he'd seemed to be non-hot for a relatively long time. While the hot --> injury or promotion is funny joke, he was hot in April, and was up in the high .300's and the .900's OPS for a while, then obviously he chilled out. I was surprised he stayed so mediocre for such a long time. Usually guys have their highs and lows, and he seemed to be plugging along as a .700-OPS type for a longer than usual time, I'd expect more variation.

 

Vitters was at .367 after his first eight games. But, in his first two games, he was 5 for 10. the other six were 6 for 20 (.300). Nothing wrong with that, but that should be par for the course for Vitters. In Vitters' current 9-game hitting streak he's hitting .414 (12-29).

 

He was .298 thirteen games into the season but after the first two games (games 3-13) he was just 9 for 37 (.243). The only thing keeping him afloat for so long--if thirteen games at .298 can be considered long--was the 5 for 10 start in the first two games. He finished the month at .240/.296/.440/.736. After the 5 for 10 he was 13 for 65 on the month (.200).

 

A fast start--in this case, a fast two days--keeps your numbers afloat far past actually hitting well... Same happens in reverse. A guy starts 0 for 10 and then hits .308 the rest of the month (20-65) and he ends the month at .267.

 

Case in point, Carlos Pena. A couple days ago I read a Fantasy Guy saying that Pena really needed to "step it up" or the Cubs needed to "drop him in the order." Pena hit .258/.402/.517/.919 in May and is .250/.371/.500/.871 in June. Expecting more step-up than that from Pena is silly. But, even though this guy is a numbers guy, he saw that Pena is at .222/.359/.394/.753 on the season and Pena needed to "step it up." Slow start/hot start skews perception for quite a while.

[Scotti]

Vitters up to a .278 batting average and an OPS over .750!

 

He's got an 8 game hitting streak--11 for 27 (.407) with 2 2B, 1 HR, 1 SB, 2 BB and 3 K. When he gets hot he either stays hot, gets hurt or gets promoted.

 

*

 

Rosscup with 6 K's on his birthday. Nice. His piggyback partner has been hot all year (albeit mostly in Mesa):

 

http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?pos=P&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=594905

 

Loosen is starting to become intriguing.

 

Loosen was interesting me with his play in Mesa but I'm pretty impressed with the way he came out of the gate with a bang at Daytona.

 

I'd love to hear a report on what he's chucking up there.