Marlon Byrd, steroid connection

[inari]

http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/news/story?id=6212491&campaign=rss&source=MLBHeadlines

 

I hadn't even heard of this until now. I hope he's clean. Not really sure what to make of it beyond that.

[fromthestretch]

http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/news/story?id=6212491&campaign=rss&source=MLBHeadlines

 

I hadn't even heard of this until now. I hope he's clean. Not really sure what to make of it beyond that.

 

There was an article last season about his association with Conte. Not surprising that it has come up again though.

[shnsajax]

He's been open about his connection with Conte. I would be surprised if he tested positive, but damn he has some big ass arms.

[pitchcs]

Just because Conte is associated with BALCO/steroids doesn't mean he doesn't know how to get dudes ripped without it. They were just a means for easier, better and quicker results.

[Radar3454]

he would have to be pretty stupid to be using anything against the rules while working w/ Conte b/c of his rep - Byrd does not seem stupid to me in the least so I would bet $$$ he is clean

[ConstableRabbit]

Just because Byrd doesn't test positive doesn't mean he's not using.

 

BALCO has a crapload of stuff that you can't test for (including their 2 most famous products: "The Cream" and "The Clear").

 

 

That said, I don't give a [expletive] what he does as long as he produces and does't get suspended.

[pitchcs]

Just because Byrd doesn't test positive doesn't mean he's not using.

 

BALCO has a crapload of stuff that you can't test for (including their 2 most famous products: "The Cream" and "The Clear").

 

 

That said, I don't give a [expletive] what he does as long as he produces and does't get suspended.

 

 

You don't think that would make him a complete idiot?

[ConstableRabbit]

Just because Byrd doesn't test positive doesn't mean he's not using.

 

BALCO has a crapload of stuff that you can't test for (including their 2 most famous products: "The Cream" and "The Clear").

 

 

That said, I don't give a [expletive] what he does as long as he produces and does't get suspended.

 

 

You don't think that would make him a complete idiot?

If you're stupid enough to train with a known performance-enhancing drug provider, you might as well get some of the benefits.

[fiver]

Just because Byrd doesn't test positive doesn't mean he's not using.

 

BALCO has a crapload of stuff that you can't test for (including their 2 most famous products: "The Cream" and "The Clear").

 

 

That said, I don't give a [expletive] what he does as long as he produces and does't get suspended.

 

 

You don't think that would make him a complete idiot?

 

 

 

Doing something morally questionable but legal doesn't make one an idiot, certainly not a complete idiot. We're just speculating at this point, anyway. We don't know whether Byrd is using anything that could be banned one day.

[pitchcs]

Just because Byrd doesn't test positive doesn't mean he's not using.

 

BALCO has a crapload of stuff that you can't test for (including their 2 most famous products: "The Cream" and "The Clear").

 

 

That said, I don't give a [expletive] what he does as long as he produces and does't get suspended.

 

 

You don't think that would make him a complete idiot?

 

 

 

Doing something morally questionable but legal doesn't make one an idiot, certainly not a complete idiot. We're just speculating at this point, anyway. We don't know whether Byrd is using anything that could be banned one day.

 

 

I'm not saying he's an idiot for working with Conte, actually the complete opposite -- I say go for it if you feel like it's helping, the dude has to know his stuff.

 

He said, "Just because Byrd tests clean doesn't mean he's not using." My reference is that he would be an idiot if he were using any banned substance, not for working with Conte.

 

If baseball is that worried about something he or anyone else is using they can ban it. Until then, fair game.

[Tracer Bullet]

Just because Byrd doesn't test positive doesn't mean he's not using.

 

BALCO has a crapload of stuff that you can't test for (including their 2 most famous products: "The Cream" and "The Clear").

 

 

That said, I don't give a [expletive] what he does as long as he produces and does't get suspended.

 

 

You don't think that would make him a complete idiot?

If you're stupid enough to train with a known performance-enhancing drug provider, you might as well get some of the benefits.

 

so byrd is stupid? I have a hunch that the providers of these substances can get you both legal and illegal. it's not as if Conte is the only guy that's ever provided an athlete with PEDs. Most infamous? Maybe, but that doesn't mean he's the only one. And the fact that his stuff worked so well may suggest that he can be really good with the legal stuff too.

[ConstableRabbit]

Just because Byrd doesn't test positive doesn't mean he's not using.

 

BALCO has a crapload of stuff that you can't test for (including their 2 most famous products: "The Cream" and "The Clear").

 

 

That said, I don't give a [expletive] what he does as long as he produces and does't get suspended.

 

 

You don't think that would make him a complete idiot?

If you're stupid enough to train with a known performance-enhancing drug provider, you might as well get some of the benefits.

 

so byrd is stupid? I have a hunch that the providers of these substances can get you both legal and illegal. it's not as if Conte is the only guy that's ever provided an athlete with PEDs. Most infamous? Maybe, but that doesn't mean he's the only one. And the fact that his stuff worked so well may suggest that he can be really good with the legal stuff too.

Byrd is stupid in the sense that he's drawing a bunch of negative attention to himself by working with Conte.

 

There are thousands of trainers, yet he chooses to work with one who is infamous for running a PED lab.

 

MLB only does urine tests anyway. I'm sure there's a lot of stuff players use that's not detectable without a blood test (e.g., HGH). Is Byrd using any of these? We can't know for sure, but I wouldn't be surprised if he was.

[scarey]

If he was taking HGH, then I would would say he is stupid. The only thing HGH will do for him is maybe, just maybe, cut 0.01 seconds off of his time from home to 1st base. That's about it.

[Soul]

Yeah, I'll bet he doesn't really know what is being put into him. How could he? I saw the TV report. Conte was handing him stuff and he was taking it. Byrd's not a chemist. He's trusting Conte. I personally don't think that's a real good idea, but whatever. It's his career to lose if Conte hasn't learned his lesson.

[Lefty]

Think of all the names linked to steroids with some corroboration. Everybody was using something. Why not Byrd? Big deal.

[pitchcs]

Just because Byrd doesn't test positive doesn't mean he's not using.

 

BALCO has a crapload of stuff that you can't test for (including their 2 most famous products: "The Cream" and "The Clear").

 

 

That said, I don't give a [expletive] what he does as long as he produces and does't get suspended.

 

 

You don't think that would make him a complete idiot?

If you're stupid enough to train with a known performance-enhancing drug provider, you might as well get some of the benefits.

 

so byrd is stupid? I have a hunch that the providers of these substances can get you both legal and illegal. it's not as if Conte is the only guy that's ever provided an athlete with PEDs. Most infamous? Maybe, but that doesn't mean he's the only one. And the fact that his stuff worked so well may suggest that he can be really good with the legal stuff too.

Byrd is stupid in the sense that he's drawing a bunch of negative attention to himself by working with Conte.

 

There are thousands of trainers, yet he chooses to work with one who is infamous for running a PED lab.

 

MLB only does urine tests anyway. I'm sure there's a lot of stuff players use that's not detectable without a blood test (e.g., HGH). Is Byrd using any of these? We can't know for sure, but I wouldn't be surprised if he was.

 

But don't you think he decided to work with him because he's one of the best? Conte would have to be the stupid one to be giving out illegal substances at this point.

 

You can make the case Conte was stupid for doing it before, but it was working and he was certainly making boatloads of $$

[Soul]

I think I'm indifferent to this mostly because I view Byrd as just a guy.

 

He'll play a few years, then leave. 10 years from now it's likely most Cub fans won't be able to easily remember his name.

 

If he wants to work with Conte let him. If it turns out Conte is the ultimate idiot and is slipping him something illegal -- well......too bad. You played with fire and got burned.

 

Then we look for a replacement. Life goes on.