2010-2011 Chicago Bulls Thread

[Magnetic Curses]

http://dberri.wordpress.com/2011/01/27/derrick-rose-may-not-be-an-all-star-starter-but-he-may-be-the-next-kobe/

Maybe it's just me, but when you do statistical analysis on the season, and that analysis indicates things in such a way that you actually conclude "Landry Fields is a much better guard than Derrick Rose", I'd probably look into revising the analysis, or at least call into question the results.

 

His metric also ranks Rose behind Jason Kidd, who is shooting 34 percent this year and averaging 8 points a game.

 

i love how his chart overlaps with his general links section, too. top notch work.

[SouthSideRyan]

I like clowning on you guys about Rose, but come on. How can you look at your stats, see Keith Bogans and Ronnie Brewer (back when he was worthless) ahead of Rose for any period and not think, maybe I should tweak this formula.

[SouthSideRyan]

I mean...hopefully now you guys will admit that Rondo is better.

[Magnetic Curses]

also, reading the comments, the guys who came up with this formula aren't doing a lot of explaining it to the "watch the games" meatballs, they're just engaging in this philosophical discussion between eyes and numbers.

[Careless]

that's just awful

[SpongeWorthy]

trap game

[Careless]

I love when a blown defensive shift leads to a very loud "oh [expletive]" being yelled on the court

[SpongeWorthy]

I wonder if Rose is done for the night.

[SpongeWorthy]

guess not

[Careless]

I really did not think a few weeks ago I would wind up actually liking Thomas.

[Careless]

Rose is shooting what, 1-8 today?

[SpongeWorthy]

1-7 at the half

 

cue UMFan and dex talking about Rose being the next Larry Hughes

[UMFan83]

1-7 at halftime and 7-28 for the weekend. He's shooting around 41% in January. And yet the Chicago media refuses to acknowledge that he's in a shooting slump. He's still contributing a ton to this team but he is not elite when he's shooting this poorly, he's "only" at an all star level.

[UMFan83]

1-7 at the half

 

cue UMFan and dex talking about Rose being the next Larry Hughes

 

whoops, I forgot that sponge can't handle reading about any struggles from Derrick Rose without blowing it wildly out of proportion.

[Flames24Rulz]

1-7 at halftime and 7-28 for the weekend. He's shooting around 41% in January. And yet the Chicago media refuses to acknowledge that he's in a shooting slump. He's still contributing a ton to this team but he is not elite when he's shooting this poorly, he's "only" at an all star level.

 

Yes, because the Chicago media is filled with homers. You're finally catching on.

[SpongeWorthy]

He has ulcers and a bad back.

 

There's also the unacknowledged fact that the Bulls are a very good win-ugly type of team especially with Noah out and the black hole at SG. This team honestly hangs its hat on defense just as much as the Skiles teams did or those really good Pistons teams. Just be happy that he's getting to the line more, shooting 3s pretty well, and playing elite defense at PG. If/when we get a real shooter/secondary ball handler and Noah his efficiency will go up (more fastbreaks/easy buckets and more room to work in the paint). A team with a guy that gets into the paint that easily and a real post threat shouldn't have this hard a time scoring, really. But the lane is clogged to [expletive].

[UMFan83]

1-7 at halftime and 7-28 for the weekend. He's shooting around 41% in January. And yet the Chicago media refuses to acknowledge that he's in a shooting slump. He's still contributing a ton to this team but he is not elite when he's shooting this poorly, he's "only" at an all star level.

 

Yes, because the Chicago media is filled with homers. You're finally catching on.

 

It's just annoying because I want one of them to ask him about it just to see what he says is causing his shooting slump. I love Derrick Rose so much my insides hurt when I think about him. I want to to never miss a shot and score 50 points with 15 assists every night. It pains me when he is struggling with his shot like this.

[Guest]

1-7 at halftime and 7-28 for the weekend. He's shooting around 41% in January. And yet the Chicago media refuses to acknowledge that he's in a shooting slump. He's still contributing a ton to this team but he is not elite when he's shooting this poorly, he's "only" at an all star level.

 

Yes, because the Chicago media is filled with homers. You're finally catching on.

 

Yes, they are. They're some of the folks carrying pitchforks trying to rail Jay Cutler out of town, but alas, they aren't the greatest media in the world (Green Bay).

[SpongeWorthy]

1-7 at halftime and 7-28 for the weekend. He's shooting around 41% in January. And yet the Chicago media refuses to acknowledge that he's in a shooting slump. He's still contributing a ton to this team but he is not elite when he's shooting this poorly, he's "only" at an all star level.

 

Yes, because the Chicago media is filled with homers. You're finally catching on.

 

It's just annoying because I want one of them to ask him about it just to see what he says is causing his shooting slump. I love Derrick Rose so much my insides hurt when I think about him. I want to to never miss a shot and score 50 points with 15 assists every night. It pains me when he is struggling with his shot like this.

 

99% of what you're complaining about every game can be explained by injury/illness/fatigue, no transition game w/o Noah leading to easy baskets, and the offensive black holes at SG and C (more SG than C) that causes Ds to collapse on him. The other 1% of it is Rose losing some of his midrange game by expanding other areas (3s, FTs, defense). And yet we're still winning.

 

Watch if we get JR or Mayo or someone like that after Noah gets back. Rose's FGAs will go down by quite a bit, his per shot efficiency will jump up, and they'll be ready to contend.

[UMFan83]

1-7 at halftime and 7-28 for the weekend. He's shooting around 41% in January. And yet the Chicago media refuses to acknowledge that he's in a shooting slump. He's still contributing a ton to this team but he is not elite when he's shooting this poorly, he's "only" at an all star level.

 

Yes, because the Chicago media is filled with homers. You're finally catching on.

 

Yes, they are. They're some of the folks carrying pitchforks trying to rail Jay Cutler out of town, but alas, they aren't the greatest media in the world (Green Bay).

 

I know this is going back to an argument that was had the week during the NFC title game, but the Chicago media is extremely bipolar. They can be your best friend or your worst enemy. Rose does and says all the right things, and can do no wrong in the eyes of the media. Jay Cutler is guarded and stand offish, so the media is just waiting for him to slip up so they can tear him apart.

[SpongeWorthy]

Rose is also a lot better at basketball than Cutler is at football.

[SpongeWorthy]

Boozer's effort is just bad a lot of the time

[UMFan83]

1-7 at halftime and 7-28 for the weekend. He's shooting around 41% in January. And yet the Chicago media refuses to acknowledge that he's in a shooting slump. He's still contributing a ton to this team but he is not elite when he's shooting this poorly, he's "only" at an all star level.

 

Yes, because the Chicago media is filled with homers. You're finally catching on.

 

It's just annoying because I want one of them to ask him about it just to see what he says is causing his shooting slump. I love Derrick Rose so much my insides hurt when I think about him. I want to to never miss a shot and score 50 points with 15 assists every night. It pains me when he is struggling with his shot like this.

 

99% of what you're complaining about every game can be explained by injury/illness/fatigue, no transition game w/o Noah leading to easy baskets, and the offensive black holes at SG and C (more SG than C) that causes Ds to collapse on him. The other 1% of it is Rose losing some of his midrange game by expanding other areas (3s, FTs, defense). And yet we're still winning.

 

Watch if we get JR or Mayo or someone like that after Noah gets back. Rose's FGAs will go down by quite a bit, his per shot efficiency will jump up, and they'll be ready to contend.

 

99-1? More like 70-30. Rose doesn't have Noah for the transition game but Rose didn't have someone like Boozer to take all the attention off of him last year either. The bottom line is last year Rose led all point guards in midrange FG% and this year its down almost 7%. It's partially compensated by his big increase in 3pt attempts and % but its caused his FG% to go down 5% this year.

 

And of course he makes 4 mid range jumpers in a row as I type this up.

[SpongeWorthy]

1-7 at halftime and 7-28 for the weekend. He's shooting around 41% in January. And yet the Chicago media refuses to acknowledge that he's in a shooting slump. He's still contributing a ton to this team but he is not elite when he's shooting this poorly, he's "only" at an all star level.

 

Yes, because the Chicago media is filled with homers. You're finally catching on.

 

It's just annoying because I want one of them to ask him about it just to see what he says is causing his shooting slump. I love Derrick Rose so much my insides hurt when I think about him. I want to to never miss a shot and score 50 points with 15 assists every night. It pains me when he is struggling with his shot like this.

 

99% of what you're complaining about every game can be explained by injury/illness/fatigue, no transition game w/o Noah leading to easy baskets, and the offensive black holes at SG and C (more SG than C) that causes Ds to collapse on him. The other 1% of it is Rose losing some of his midrange game by expanding other areas (3s, FTs, defense). And yet we're still winning.

 

Watch if we get JR or Mayo or someone like that after Noah gets back. Rose's FGAs will go down by quite a bit, his per shot efficiency will jump up, and they'll be ready to contend.

 

99-1? More like 70-30. Rose doesn't have Noah for the transition game but Rose didn't have someone like Boozer to take all the attention off of him last year either. The bottom line is last year Rose led all point guards in midrange FG% and this year its down almost 7%. It's partially compensated by his big increase in 3pt attempts and % but its caused his FG% to go down 5% this year.

 

And of course he makes 4 mid range jumpers in a row as I type this up.

 

I wouldn't expect Boozer necessarily to help his efficiency as much as it helps his assist totals (and it has). Noah helps because he blocks shots, rebounds, and pushes the ball in transition and Rose gets layups. Kurt Thomas has done yeoman's work but we're just a different kinda team. Plodding even. I'm too lazy to look up the stats but I'm guessing our fast break points are wayyyyy down since Noah went out.

 

Plus we all bitched about Kirk but the guy certainly opens things up for Rose more than Bogans does. Plus he could handle the ball in a pinch...now Rose has to pound the dribble for 40 minutes a game. That's really tiring. I'll reiterate that there's no real reason that a team with Boozer and a guy that can get into the lane whenever he wants should have this hard a time scoring. But we really do need that sharpshooting 2 that can handle the rock to open up the floor.

[Flames24Rulz]

1-7 at halftime and 7-28 for the weekend. He's shooting around 41% in January. And yet the Chicago media refuses to acknowledge that he's in a shooting slump. He's still contributing a ton to this team but he is not elite when he's shooting this poorly, he's "only" at an all star level.

 

Yes, because the Chicago media is filled with homers. You're finally catching on.

 

Yes, they are. They're some of the folks carrying pitchforks trying to rail Jay Cutler out of town, but alas, they aren't the greatest media in the world (Green Bay).

 

I know this is going back to an argument that was had the week during the NFC title game, but the Chicago media is extremely bipolar. They can be your best friend or your worst enemy. Rose does and says all the right things, and can do no wrong in the eyes of the media. Jay Cutler is guarded and stand offish, so the media is just waiting for him to slip up so they can tear him apart.

 

Well that's true.