rules for picking up a player

[roadster]

First question: I need a seventh start since Morrow is injured...can I pick up a player to replace his start even though he is not on IR?

 

Second question: I need to drop a player in order to do this (I don't want to drop Morrow or my two bench players Kinsler and Rasmus). Can I drop an active player and replaced that person with Kinsler and Rasmus?

 

I have made a couple of mistakes regarding this before so I want to make sure before I do anything especially that this is the playoffs.

 

Thanks

[abuck1220]

you cannot insert rasmus or kinsler into your lineup since they weren't there on monday.

[Guest]

Question #1. You can replace an injured pitcher.

 

Question #2. Yes, you can drop any player you wish in order to keep your team legal.

[abuck1220]

he can drop whoever he wants, but he cannot, say, drop josh bell and replace him in the lineup with kinsler, who started the week on the bench.

[roadster]

he can drop whoever he wants, but he cannot, say, drop josh bell and replace him in the lineup with kinsler, who started the week on the bench.

 

ok...at least I have a clear understanding of what I can or cannot do...thanks

[Guest]

he can drop whoever he wants, but he cannot, say, drop josh bell and replace him in the lineup with kinsler, who started the week on the bench.

 

I don't see a problem with allowing that change. I'm sure he'd prefer to just start Brandon Morrow if he could. Unfortunately, Morrow has become done for the season. Now he has to patrol the scrap heap and he'd rather remove a starting player rather than losing one of his reserves. I don't see a problem with this at all.

 

The only type of roster change that I wouldn't allow in this type of situation, is one that gains you extra starts when you didn't have an injured pitcher.

 

It also appears as though he will need to get rid of two people in order to make this roster move, because his reserve list is full and Morrow is not currently eligible to be on the DL.

[roadster]

he can drop whoever he wants, but he cannot, say, drop josh bell and replace him in the lineup with kinsler, who started the week on the bench.

 

I don't see a problem with allowing that change. I'm sure he'd prefer to just start Brandon Morrow if he could. Unfortunately, Morrow has become done for the season. Now he has to patrol the scrap heap and he'd rather remove a starting player rather than losing one of his reserves. I don't see a problem with this at all.

 

The only type of roster change that I wouldn't allow in this type of situation, is one that gains you extra starts when you didn't have an injured pitcher.

 

It also appears as though he will need to get rid of two people in order to make this roster move, because his reserve list is full and Morrow is not currently eligible to be on the DL.

 

I put Morrow on the IR even though he is not but CBSsports allowed it...if I can't put him on IR, then I have to drop him; otherwise, I will have to drop a player I don't want to drop (Myers, Rasmus, or Kinsler) since technically, I can't put Morrow on IR (though he is done for the season)...I also had to drop Hughes (with eligibility) so I can get a sixth start (Hughes was skipped)...so I have to decide between trying to win this year or pack up and wait until next year....

 

If I can move someone from the active roster and dump them then I have a bit more flexibility to make a run at this year and not have to drop someone I want to keep next year (I already lost Hughes)...

 

Thanks

[abuck1220]

i'm still kind of confused on this. i guess moving morrow in the IR (even though it doesn't look like he's hurt or on the DL) is one way of doing it.

 

what i don't think is legal is any type of adding/dropping/whatever involving pitchers where the end result is ian kinsler/colby rasmus in his active lineup. kinsler/rasmus started the week on his bench and should stay there.

[abuck1220]

he can drop whoever he wants, but he cannot, say, drop josh bell and replace him in the lineup with kinsler, who started the week on the bench.

 

I don't see a problem with allowing that change. I'm sure he'd prefer to just start Brandon Morrow if he could. Unfortunately, Morrow has become done for the season. Now he has to patrol the scrap heap and he'd rather remove a starting player rather than losing one of his reserves. I don't see a problem with this at all.

 

lineups are due on monday. kinsler was not in his lineup on monday. he can't insert kinsler into his lineup mid-week. these are the rules that we have had for 75 years.

 

if he wants to drop jose lopez or whatever and go with no 2b for the rest of the week so he doesn't go over the roster limit, maybe that's fine. but kinsler cannot be inserted into his lineup mid-week. we've been over this a bajillion times.

Edited September 9, 2010 by abuck1220

[Guest]

I believe CBS will allow you to put anyone on the IR. Morrow cannot be placed on the IR unless he is truly placed on the DL by his major league team. Other than that particular clarification, the other moves you discussed making in your original post are fine.

 

The rules as they were written were meant to create fair play. They were not meant to look for loopholes to improve your team's chances of winning. I don't think that is your intention here, which is why I don't have an issue with the changes you wish to make.

 

And that you are asking ahead of time further convinces me that the intention is to play fair.

[Guest]

One of the exceptions we've allowed in the past involves the DL in september since teams don't put players on the DL in sept.

 

If a player is done for the year, we've been allowed to put them on our DL even if they're not on the DL of the mlb team. However, if that player then plays again during the season he has to be dropped.

 

That would take care of this problem because Morrow could be placed on the DL, correct?

[roadster]

One of the exceptions we've allowed in the past involves the DL in september since teams don't put players on the DL in sept.

 

If a player is done for the year, we've been allowed to put them on our DL even if they're not on the DL of the mlb team. However, if that player then plays again during the season he has to be dropped.

 

That would take care of this problem because Morrow could be placed on the DL, correct?

 

If I place Morrow on the DL then I am fine with it I will keep him on the DL the rest of the season...I just don't want to drop him because he is not considered injured but will not play the rest of the season...

[roadster]

I believe CBS will allow you to put anyone on the IR. Morrow cannot be placed on the IR unless he is truly placed on the DL by his major league team. Other than that particular clarification, the other moves you discussed making in your original post are fine.

 

The rules as they were written were meant to create fair play. They were not meant to look for loopholes to improve your team's chances of winning. I don't think that is your intention here, which is why I don't have an issue with the changes you wish to make.

 

And that you are asking ahead of time further convinces me that the intention is to play fair.

 

Well I made two mistakes already with roster moves (fortunately non of them impacted the games) but since this is the playoffs I want to do what is right...

[roadster]

he can drop whoever he wants, but he cannot, say, drop josh bell and replace him in the lineup with kinsler, who started the week on the bench.

 

I don't see a problem with allowing that change. I'm sure he'd prefer to just start Brandon Morrow if he could. Unfortunately, Morrow has become done for the season. Now he has to patrol the scrap heap and he'd rather remove a starting player rather than losing one of his reserves. I don't see a problem with this at all.

 

lineups are due on monday. kinsler was not in his lineup on monday. he can't insert kinsler into his lineup mid-week. these are the rules that we have had for 75 years.

 

if he wants to drop jose lopez or whatever and go with no 2b for the rest of the week so he doesn't go over the roster limit, maybe that's fine. but kinsler cannot be inserted into his lineup mid-week. we've been over this a bajillion times.

 

If I can drop an active player and not insert a replacement, that's fine, but it does not solve the issue with more reserve than allowed. If it is ok with everyone that I have a roster error, then I can live with no position player for the rest of the week....

[Guest]

Injuries happen, Adam, and the rules cannot cover every possible scenario that might come up. An injury should not put you in a position to lose because you can't add someone at the risk of having to drop one of your better players because they are on reserve.

 

If a guy comes off the DL midweek, they can be inserted into the starting line up anywhere they are eligible. They weren't there on Monday, either.

 

If Raul Ibanez gets hurt on my team and I want to replace him, if I want to move my 2b to the OF spot Ibanez got removed from and place Ian Stewart at 2b, I'm perfectly within my rights to do so. My 2b wasn't hurt. I have an OF on my reserve list (Garrett Jones). I suppose I could get really creative with roster moves with my current player eligibility if someone got hurt, since Garrett Jones is eligible at 1b/OF, Rayburn is eligible at 2b/OF, Stewart eligible at 2b/3b and all the guys are eligible at U.

[abuck1220]

 

If a guy comes off the DL midweek, they can be inserted into the starting line up anywhere they are eligible. They weren't there on Monday, either.

 

right. and there's a rule that says you're allowed to do this.

 

If Raul Ibanez gets hurt on my team and I want to replace him, if I want to move my 2b to the OF spot Ibanez got removed from and place Ian Stewart at 2b, I'm perfectly within my rights to do so.

 

you sure are. you are replacing an injured player with someone from your bench. again, this is not what he would be doing.

 

just put morrow on the DL. problem solved.

[Guest]

 

If a guy comes off the DL midweek, they can be inserted into the starting line up anywhere they are eligible. They weren't there on Monday, either.

 

right. and there's a rule that says you're allowed to do this.

 

If Raul Ibanez gets hurt on my team and I want to replace him, if I want to move my 2b to the OF spot Ibanez got removed from and place Ian Stewart at 2b, I'm perfectly within my rights to do so.

 

you sure are. you are replacing an injured player with someone from your bench. again, this is not what he would be doing.

 

just put morrow on the DL. problem solved.

 

If I didn't have Ian Stewart and I saw a better 2b free agent than OF, I could still make that same move and it would be okay. Injuries allow replacements, provided those replacements are within reason. I don't see his replacement requests as being unreasonable.

[Guest]

The one added outlier I would include in this decision, is that if either Rasmus or Kinsler were placed into the active roster for this injury change, they would not be allowed to play the Thursday game if the player being replaced was not scheduled for a Thursday game.

 

Again, in the interest of fairness.

[abuck1220]

 

If a guy comes off the DL midweek, they can be inserted into the starting line up anywhere they are eligible. They weren't there on Monday, either.

 

right. and there's a rule that says you're allowed to do this.

 

If Raul Ibanez gets hurt on my team and I want to replace him, if I want to move my 2b to the OF spot Ibanez got removed from and place Ian Stewart at 2b, I'm perfectly within my rights to do so.

 

you sure are. you are replacing an injured player with someone from your bench. again, this is not what he would be doing.

 

just put morrow on the DL. problem solved.

 

If I didn't have Ian Stewart and I saw a better 2b free agent than OF, I could still make that same move and it would be okay. Injuries allow replacements, provided those replacements are within reason. I don't see his replacement requests as being unreasonable.

 

agreed.

 

he is not replacing an injured player with a FA/reserve. he would be replacing an injured pitcher with a FA pitcher AND making a mid-week change to his offensive lineup. what does inserting ian kinsler at 2b have to do with replacing an injured PITCHER?

 

we just need to allow all mid-week roster moves next year because apparently the current system is too hard to keep track of.

[NCCubFan]

I'm impartial since I'm a playoff observer rather than participant, but I agree with Tim on this issue. I raised the issue last year and Juan agreed. Normally during the year a team will place an injured player on the DL to make room for another player. However, with expanded rosters in September a team may not place an injured player on the DL because they don't need to free up a roster spot. We don't have expanded rosters in Roadkill, though, so a manager can be screwed if he can't place an injured player on the DL just because the major league team doesn't. If Adam was able to place Ben Sheets on his DL despite not being on a major league DL (as he was able to last year) then Rodelo should receive the same consideration when he has an injured player that's not on a major league DL simply because of expanded September rosters. Perhaps there could be a qualification that the player must then remain on the DL for the rest of the playoffs.

[abuck1220]

omg grudge much? ben sheets [expletive] sucked this year anyway.

 

also, i agree that he should be able to DL morrow.

[Guest]

I'm fine if people want to allow players that aren't DL to be DL eligible if they are done for the season.

 

My team usually isn't in the playoff hunt, so I blame that as my excuse for not knowing about DLing players who aren't currently on the DL. Juan was the commish at that time.

 

That has seemed to resolve this issue, so it's no longer an issue.

 

I'm leaving for Durango in the am and won't be back until Tuesday am. I should have internet access when I'm not driving or generally out enjoying myself. I'll do my best to get playoff match ups posted as early as I can on Sunday.

[Guest]

Aramis has been day-to-day all week and is "a ways away." I dropped Manny Ramirez (had no other choices) and picked up Juan Uribe in my starting lineup at 3B. I hope this is kosher; please let me know if it isn't.

[Guest]

Yep. That's fine.

[roadster]

 

If a guy comes off the DL midweek, they can be inserted into the starting line up anywhere they are eligible. They weren't there on Monday, either.

 

right. and there's a rule that says you're allowed to do this.

 

If Raul Ibanez gets hurt on my team and I want to replace him, if I want to move my 2b to the OF spot Ibanez got removed from and place Ian Stewart at 2b, I'm perfectly within my rights to do so.

 

you sure are. you are replacing an injured player with someone from your bench. again, this is not what he would be doing.

 

just put morrow on the DL. problem solved.

 

If I didn't have Ian Stewart and I saw a better 2b free agent than OF, I could still make that same move and it would be okay. Injuries allow replacements, provided those replacements are within reason. I don't see his replacement requests as being unreasonable.

 

I put Morrow on the DL since everyone seems ok with this...

 

I dropped Cantu from my active roster and picked up another pitcher and left the 1B spot open...this will leave me with an extra reserve than allotted but hopefully ok with everyone...

 

agreed.

 

he is not replacing an injured player with a FA/reserve. he would be replacing an injured pitcher with a FA pitcher AND making a mid-week change to his offensive lineup. what does inserting ian kinsler at 2b have to do with replacing an injured PITCHER?

 

we just need to allow all mid-week roster moves next year because apparently the current system is too hard to keep track of.