2011 managerial speculation

[shnsajax]

I'm perfectly content to pay Quade a small salary as a manager. Hopefully, some of that money can get reinvested in overslots and international signings.

 

Exactly. Its not as if there are a ton of good options out there. Fredi already declined an interview, and outside of him does it really matter all that much as they all have a negative to them.

[CUBZ99]

Cubs starter Ryan Dempster endorsed Mike Quade as manager, saying to CSNChicago's Patrick Mooney and others, "He’s done a great job and I hope that he’s here longer than just this year (and) managing for us next year because he deserves it." Mooney also spoke to hitting coach Rudy Jaramillo, who's intent on honoring his three-year contract regardless of the team's manager changes.

 

Anybody surprised a hitting coach from a bad hitting team would be willing to honor the contract that makes him the highest paid hitting coach in the game?

 

I know, was that really news? Of course he is staying.

[Old Style]

I really don't see Sandberg being the likely option. The team is too much of a question mark, and his lack of experience could easily turn into an ugly talking point if things go south quickly. I think the Cubs are praying that Girardi makes himself available to them (though I'm not).

 

Girardi would cost too much to convince to come here. Sandberg is a slam dunk. It's great for marketing and the majority of clueless Cubs fans want this.

 

Sandberg's not a slam dunk. He's only a slam dunk if the team is a slam dunk to be good.

I don't think he meant that Sandberg was a slam dunk to be a successful manager, just that it would be a slam dunk from a PR standpoint.

[C.C.]

I really don't see Sandberg being the likely option. The team is too much of a question mark, and his lack of experience could easily turn into an ugly talking point if things go south quickly. I think the Cubs are praying that Girardi makes himself available to them (though I'm not).

 

Girardi would cost too much to convince to come here. Sandberg is a slam dunk. It's great for marketing and the majority of clueless Cubs fans want this.

 

Sandberg's not a slam dunk. He's only a slam dunk if the team is a slam dunk to be good.

I don't think he meant that Sandberg was a slam dunk to be a successful manager, just that it would be a slam dunk from a PR standpoint.

 

 

Yes, that's what I meant.

[DivineBovine]

Fine. Give it to Quade. It's not like Girardi or Torre are going to necessarily bring WS titles.

 

But I'm hardly impressed that he has the $130 million losers winning meaningless games. Let's see him win some games that actually matter.

[Sammy Sofa]

Fine. Give it to Quade. It's not like Girardi or Torre are going to necessarily bring WS titles.

 

But I'm hardly impressed that he has the $130 million losers winning meaningless games. Let's see him win some games that actually matter.

 

They've played a number of games against teams still fighting for the playoffs.

[jersey cubs fan]

Fine. Give it to Quade. It's not like Girardi or Torre are going to necessarily bring WS titles.

 

But I'm hardly impressed that he has the $130 million losers winning meaningless games. Let's see him win some games that actually matter.

 

They've played a number of games against teams still fighting for the playoffs.

 

Are you impressed though?

[davell]

I'm sure this has been discussed here somewhere, but I can't find it anywhere.......How many games can a manager win or lose you over the course of the season? Isn't it only like 2 or 3 for the most part? I'm asking because this would almost have to be one of the anomalys to that theory, because I truly think if Lou were still here, we'd probably be pushing the envelope on 100 losses.......

 

That said, I certainly don't think we'd have been anything more than a 75-80ish win team if Quade had been here all year either. I just think Lou "cubby occurenced" himself into losing the clubhouse early.

 

As far as giving Quade the job next year, I'm all for it. Especially if it would mean we'd take those savings and actually spend them on the farm system, although I'm not about to hold my breath on that one.

[Sammy Sofa]

Fine. Give it to Quade. It's not like Girardi or Torre are going to necessarily bring WS titles.

 

But I'm hardly impressed that he has the $130 million losers winning meaningless games. Let's see him win some games that actually matter.

 

They've played a number of games against teams still fighting for the playoffs.

 

Are you impressed though?

 

I'm flabbergasted.

[DivineBovine]

Fine. Give it to Quade. It's not like Girardi or Torre are going to necessarily bring WS titles.

 

But I'm hardly impressed that he has the $130 million losers winning meaningless games. Let's see him win some games that actually matter.

 

They've played a number of games against teams still fighting for the playoffs.

 

Are you impressed though?

 

I'm flabbergasted.

 

 

 

So the games matter...to the other team. So what? They haven't showed they can win games that actually matter to them. We all know that being irrelevant brings out the best in the Cubs. Soriano has been hitting meaningless homers forever.

[SouthSideRyan]

Fine. Give it to Quade. It's not like Girardi or Torre are going to necessarily bring WS titles.

 

But I'm hardly impressed that he has the $130 million losers winning meaningless games. Let's see him win some games that actually matter.

 

They've played a number of games against teams still fighting for the playoffs.

 

Are you impressed though?

 

I'm flabbergasted.

 

 

Soriano has been hitting meaningless homers forever.

 

As evidenced by the 6 HRs he's hit the past 2 months

[jersey cubs fan]

As evidenced by the 6 HRs he's hit the past 2 months

 

All meaningless.

[SouthSideRyan]

Soriano: 27 game tying, 116 go-ahead HRs in his career

[jersey cubs fan]

Soriano: 27 game tying, 116 go-ahead HRs in his career

How many world series titles?

[SouthSideRyan]

Soriano: 27 game tying, 116 go-ahead HRs in his career

How many world series titles?

 

[expletive] choke artist Rivera

[J.R.]

Seems to me that there is a certain documentary film on this game of Base Ball in which Mr. Soriano appears to be quite the "clutch" hitter.

[jersey cubs fan]

Seems to me that there is a certain documentary film on this game of Base Ball in which Mr. Soriano appears to be quite the "clutch" hitter.

 

They didn't discuss the 2003 postseason?

[J.R.]

Seems to me that there is a certain documentary film on this game of Base Ball in which Mr. Soriano appears to be quite the "clutch" hitter.

 

They didn't discuss the 2003 postseason?

 

Only the ugly parts.

[Sammy Sofa]

So the games matter...to the other team. So what? They haven't showed they can win games that actually matter to them. We all know that being irrelevant brings out the best in the Cubs. Soriano has been hitting meaningless homers forever.

 

This is a wonderful, wonderful quote.

 

Apparently it doesn't matter if the Cubs beat playoff teams; it only matters if it actually matters to the Cubs. So does that mean the trick is for the Cubs to actually play like the games don't matter to them? Because the wins count only if the game matters to the Cubs, and the Cubs can't win when the game actually matters to them, so they somehow need to play the entire season like it doesn't matter.

 

WE'VE CRACKED THE CODE.

[DivineBovine]

OK, whatever about Soriano.

 

Point is, I'm not judging any manager by how his team does in meaningless games. A $130 million team must have some talent, and should be able to compete. I'm hardly impressed by them winning now.

 

And how is Quade doing it? So they're winning because he makes the right lineup and double switch at the right time? To me, managing is less important in baseball than any major sport.

[SouthSideRyan]

So when everyone said Lou didn't care for the past season and a half he was actually trying to convince the team not to care, thus allowing them to win.

[Sammy Sofa]

Soriano: 27 game tying, 116 go-ahead HRs in his career

 

That means only 46% of his home runs over his career have been clutch. LESS THAN 50%?!?!?! He's history's greatest monster.

[Sammy Sofa]

OK, whatever about Soriano.

 

Point is, I'm not judging any manager by how his team does in meaningless games. A $130 million team must have some talent, and should be able to compete. I'm hardly impressed by them winning now.

 

And how is Quade doing it? So they're winning because he makes the right lineup and double switch at the right time? To me, managing is less important in baseball than any major sport.

 

That last part is true, which is why they should do the smart thing and go with guy like Quade instead of a rampaging ego-monster like Sandberg.

 

Though I'm still not sure why you don't think it's impressive when a team can beat up on playoff teams when they don't care.

[SouthSideRyan]

Soriano: 27 game tying, 116 go-ahead HRs in his career

 

That means only 46% of his home runs over his career have been clutch. LESS THAN 50%?!?!?! He's history's greatest monster.

 

We need more man's men like Mark Grace. HE DIDN'T NEED STEROIDS, HE PLAYED ON SMOKES AND WHISKEY! NO BATTING GLOVES. Oh, 40%.

[jersey cubs fan]

Though I'm still not sure why you don't think it's impressive when a team can beat up on playoff teams when they don't care.

 

Who have they beaten? They've squeeked out 2 of 3 from SDP. And they lost 2 of 3 to SF. Who are all these other contenders? STL? They are a mediocre team and the Cubs went 4-2 against them late in the season, and are 9-6 for the season. There havent' been any other contenders on the schedule. I'm not sure what there is to be impressed about. Beating the Mets, Florida and Milwaukee?