Minor League Discussion & Boxes 8-6-10

[Outshined_One]

Box Scores

 

Iowa won 11-6 Box Score

 

CF J. Adduci 1/5, K

SS D. Barney 1/5, K

RF B. Snyder 3/4, BB, 3 R, RBI, HR (18)

DH M. Hoffpauir 2/4, BB, 2 R, 2 RBI, HR (19), K

LF T. Wright 2/4, BB, 2 R, 2 RBI, 2B (6)

1B B. LaHair 2/4, BB, 2 R, 2 RBI, HR (19)

3B M. Smith 2/3, 2 R, 3 RBI, 2 HR (7)

PH/2B B. Scales 0/2, K

C C. Robinson 1/4, K

2B/3B M. Camp 0/1, 3 BB

SP J. Jackson 6.2 IP, 6 H, 5 ER, 5/1 K/BB, 3 HR, 6-7 GO-FO

RP J. Muyco 1.1 perfect, 1-3 GO-FO

RP B. Schlitter 1 IP, 1 H, 1 ER, 1/2 K/BB, 1-0 GO-FO

 

Tennessee won 6-1 Box Score

 

CF T. Campana 2/5, 3 RBI, K, E (5, fielding)

DH B. Jackson 0/4, BB, SB (12)

3B R. Canzler 0/4, BB, R

C R. Chirinos 2/4, BB, R, RBI, K

RF M. Spencer 1/5, R, 2 K

LF B. Guyer 1/3, 2 R, RBI, 2B (25), SB (19), HBP

2B T. Thomas 1/4, R, K

SS J. Mota 1/4, RBI, 2B (2), K

SP R. Dolis 5 IP, 6 H, 1 ER, 2/2 K/BB, 9-4 GO-FO

RP R. Buchter 2 scoreless, 0 H, 2/1 K/BB, HBP, 3-1 GO-FO

RP A. Shafer 2 perfect, 2/0 K/BB, 0-3 GO-FO

 

Daytona won 3-2 Box Score

 

2B DJ LeMahieu 2/4, R

3B R. Flaherty 2/4, R, RBI

DH R. Ridling 3/4, R, 2 RBI, HR (11)

RF K. Burke 0/4, K

C M. Brenly 0/4

1B J. Opitz 1/4, E (7, fielding)

LF G. Rohan 1/4, 2B (2)

SS J. Lake 0/4, 3 K

SP T. McNutt 6 scoreless, 3 H, 7/0 K/BB, WP, 5-5 GO-FO

RP C. Lambert 1.1 IP, 1 H, 2 ER, 0/1 K/BB, 2-2 GO-FO

RP J. Leverton 1 scoreless, 1 H, 1/0 K/BB, 0-1 GO-FO

RP M. Perconte .2 scoreless, 0 H, 2/2 K/BB

 

Peoria won 3-1 Box Score

 

SS HJ Lee 1/4, BB, 2B (18)

2B L. Watkins 0/4, BB, K

LF DJ Fitzgerald 1/4, BB, K

1B J. Bour 1/4, R

DH B. May 2/4, R, K

RF JH Ha 2/4, R, 3 RBI, HR (5)

CF A. Giantsanti 0/3, K, SB (1), HBP

SP M. Hatley 2 scoreless, 2 H, HBP, 4-2 GO-FO

RP N. Struck 5.2 IP, 3 H, 1 ER, 5/6 K/BB, 4-5 GO-FO

 

Boise lost 12-5 Box Score

 

SS E. Soto 3/5, R, K

2B P. LePage 2/5, 2B (13), K

1B R. Jones 0/3, RBI, 2 K, HBP

LF J. Morelli 0/4, K

3B A. Alcantara 2/4, R, RBI, HR (2)

DH D. Harrington 1/4, R, 2B (2)

C M. Gibbs 2/4, R, RBI

CF KM Na 2/4, R, RBI, 3B (1), K, Assist (Home)

SP A. Kirk 3 IP, 7 H, 3 ER, 1/1 K/BB, HR, 4-3 GO-FO

RP L. Suarez 3 IP, 3 H, 4 ER, 3/2 K/BB, 2 HR, 4-2 GO-FO, 2 E (2, pickoff x 2)

RP E. Rice 1.1 IP, 3 H, 2 ER, 2/1 K/BB, 0-2 GO-FO

 

AZL Cubs won 7-6 Box Score

 

2B V. Bieneme 0/2, BB, 2 K, E (5, throw)

SS W. Darvill 1/4, R, RBI, SB (2)

DH R. Golden 2/4, 2 R, K, SB (1)

3B D. Geiger 2/3, RBI, K, CS (1), 3 E (5, fielding x 2, throw)

C C. Noble 0/4, R, 2 K

LF B. Springfield 1/4, R, RBI, HR (1)

SP A. Reed 4 IP, 3 H, 1 ER, 0/1 K/BB, WP, 8-3 GO-FO

RP J. Zeller 2 IP, 1 H, 2 R, 0 ER, 4-2 GO-FO

RP C. Hams 2 IP, 4 H, 3 ER, 1/1 K/BB, HR, 5-0 GO-FO

RP C. Richardson 1 scoreless, 1 H, 1/0 K/BB, 2-0 GO-FO

 

DSL Cubs 1 won 7-2 Box Score

 

CF O. Zapata 1/5, BB, 2 RBI

3B G. Amaya 0/4, 2 K

SS M. Hernandez 1/3, R, RBI, K, HBP

RF D. Arcila 0/3, 2 BB, 2 R, K

RP A. Colinas 2.1 IP, 4 H, 2 ER, 4/0 K/BB, 1-2 GO-FO

 

DSL Cubs 2 lost 8-2 Box Score

 

SS J. Rodriguez 0/4, K, E (15, fielding)

1B G. Jimenez 0/4, 2 K

 

OVERALL: 6-2

[Guest]

Probable Starters

 

Iowa: RHP Jay Jackson (8-6, 4.19 ERA, 118 IP, 86 K, 37 BB)

Tennessee: RHP Rafael Dolis (1-2, 3.60 ERA, 25 IP, 22 K, 11 BB; overall: 5-7, 3.09 ERA, 96 IP, 70 K, 41 BB)

Daytona: RHP Trey McNutt (2-0, 3.12 ERA, 26 IP, 30 K, 7 BB; overall: 8-0, 2.00 ERA, 85.2 IP, 100 K, 31 BB)

Peoria: RHP Marcus Hatley (0-0, 40.50 ERA, 0.2 IP, 0 K, 2 BB; overall: 0-0, 4.91 ERA, 7.1 IP, 7 K, 4 BB) & RHP Nick Struck (6-8, 3.50 ERA, 97.2 IP, 64 K, 33 BB)

Boise: LHP Austin Kirk (3-3, 3.00 ERA, 39 IP, 41 K, 11 BB)

AZL Cubs: RHP Austin Reed (2-0, 0.52 ERA, 17.1 IP, 23 K, 8 BB) & RHP Hector Mayora (1-1, 3.80 ERA, 23.2 IP, 25 K, 6 BB)

[Rob]

Good pitching day.

[Outshined_One]

Might as well ask this here in the vague hopes of getting an answer.

 

Based on the players who are there now, do the Cubs have any guys in Mesa or Boise who will make BA's Top 20 lists for their respective leagues?

[Guest]

Trey McNutt strong so far - 5 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 6 K.

[Guest]

Might as well ask this here in the vague hopes of getting an answer.

 

Based on the players who are there now, do the Cubs have any guys in Mesa or Boise who will make BA's Top 20 lists for their respective leagues?

 

The NWL is really easy to make and the AZL really hard given the size of the respective leagues.

 

As such, for Boise, I think Austin Kirk and Arismendy Alcantara will make it. Aaron Kurcz might have a chance and Matt Szczur is a lock if he hit their minimum plate appearances.

 

For Mesa, Austin Reed obviously has a really strong chance. The rest of the Latin arms who have done well are all pretty old for the league. If Yao-Lin Wang continues his good start at Mesa, he'll have a chance.

[illiniguy]

Trey McNutt strong so far - 5 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 6 K.

Is this kid a possible top 50 guy?

[Little Slide Rooter]

Great game by McNutt.

 

Jackson also off to a nice start, 3 IP 0 H 0 BB 5 K

[Little Slide Rooter]

my guy Marquez Smith with 2 HR tonight. So what if hes a flavor of the month, if hes doing well, hes doing well.

[ctcf]

Guh JJax really apart at the end there.

[toonsterwu]

McNutt's numbers have been interesting in A+ - much better control, but flyball rate has gone up. May simply be a sample size concern. Still needs more work and I'm not sure he's a top 50 guy, but I could see him as top 100, and maybe top 80ish.

 

Rebel Ridling has been on a nice run of late.

 

I keep waiting for when the Cubs move Dolis to the pen ... still think that is his future, but he's been decent as a starter in AA.

 

Jay Jackson got hammered in the end for 5 runs on 3 HR's. There's a part of me that wonders if he's better off in the pen, but I still think he could be a 3/4 type starter. Maybe that's wishful thinking.

 

Do we have any new velo reports on Struck from earlier in the season, that is touching low 90's, sitting more high 80's? He has been having a solid 2nd half, though.

[davell]

I still think of Jay as a starter personally. He's pitching in a hitter friendly league for sure anyway, so hopefully that's one of the main reasons he's been averagish this season.

 

As far as BA rankings go, here's my take for this upcoming season's lists: Guys that have a shot at making the top 100 would be Brett Jackson(definite top 50, possible top 30) Hak Ju Lee(definite top 100, possible top 60) Chris Archer(almost definite top 100, possible top 60 depending on how he finishes) Jay Jackson(50/50 for me, but BA seems to like him, which is why I think he still has THAT much of a chance) Kenneth McNutt(50/50 as well, maybe the lack of going deep hurts him possibly?) and I'll give Vitters a 50/50 shot as well, but they(and it seems like most) publications seem to be down on him. Although I think he's DEFINITELY still one of the top 100 prospects in baseball.......

 

As for the top 20 lists, they'll be pretty interesting, if you ask me.....I think Jay Jackson is a lock to make the top 20 in the PCL, with Barney or Castillo having a VERY outside shot at making the tail end of the list. In the Southern League, we'll get Brett Jackson, Vitters will make it(although probably pretty low for now) Archer(who could be very high) and Carpenter will have probably a 50/50 shot to make the tail end as well. As for the FSL, we'll get Archer and Brett again, McNutt will be on there too, you'd certainly like to think Junior Lake shows up(but I guess we'll see how he finishes up and also how closely these guys are monitoring things as well) and if he keeps hitting, MAYBE Flaherty has a punchers chance to make the very bottom, although I doubt it......Oh, and depending on things, I guess Rhee has a shot too, but he needs to finish very strong. In the Midwest, we'll get Lee and McNutt, with possibly one or two of Wallach, Ha, and Jung(if he keeps up his last few starts, I could see him almost becoming a lock, although I'm not sure what kind of stuff he has honestly) In the Northwest League, I figure we'll get Kirk pn there, Szczur, if he has the PA's, and possibly one of Alcantara or Na, based on their age, more than their stats possibly. In the AZL, I doubt Golden winds up with the AB's, if he does, I feel confident He'll make it, Austin Reed is probably the only other shot we have.......

[toonsterwu]

from what i recall right now on jung, it's something like 90-92 fb with good downward action, solid curve, decent change.

[Outshined_One]

Golden back in the lineup for the AZL Cubs and Austin Reed with a so-so outing.

[Guest]

I still think of Jay as a starter personally. He's pitching in a hitter friendly league for sure anyway, so hopefully that's one of the main reasons he's been averagish this season.

 

As far as BA rankings go, here's my take for this upcoming season's lists: Guys that have a shot at making the top 100 would be Brett Jackson(definite top 50, possible top 30) Hak Ju Lee(definite top 100, possible top 60) Chris Archer(almost definite top 100, possible top 60 depending on how he finishes) Jay Jackson(50/50 for me, but BA seems to like him, which is why I think he still has THAT much of a chance) Kenneth McNutt(50/50 as well, maybe the lack of going deep hurts him possibly?) and I'll give Vitters a 50/50 shot as well, but they(and it seems like most) publications seem to be down on him. Although I think he's DEFINITELY still one of the top 100 prospects in baseball.......

 

As for the top 20 lists, they'll be pretty interesting, if you ask me.....I think Jay Jackson is a lock to make the top 20 in the PCL, with Barney or Castillo having a VERY outside shot at making the tail end of the list. In the Southern League, we'll get Brett Jackson, Vitters will make it(although probably pretty low for now) Archer(who could be very high) and Carpenter will have probably a 50/50 shot to make the tail end as well. As for the FSL, we'll get Archer and Brett again, McNutt will be on there too, you'd certainly like to think Junior Lake shows up(but I guess we'll see how he finishes up and also how closely these guys are monitoring things as well) and if he keeps hitting, MAYBE Flaherty has a punchers chance to make the very bottom, although I doubt it......Oh, and depending on things, I guess Rhee has a shot too, but he needs to finish very strong. In the Midwest, we'll get Lee and McNutt, with possibly one or two of Wallach, Ha, and Jung(if he keeps up his last few starts, I could see him almost becoming a lock, although I'm not sure what kind of stuff he has honestly) In the Northwest League, I figure we'll get Kirk pn there, Szczur, if he has the PA's, and possibly one of Alcantara or Na, based on their age, more than their stats possibly. In the AZL, I doubt Golden winds up with the AB's, if he does, I feel confident He'll make it, Austin Reed is probably the only other shot we have.......

 

With regards to top 100 lists, BA is very high on McNutt so I suspect he'll sneak in along with Brett Jackson, Lee and Archer.

 

You're far too optimistic with your top 20 lists. Remember how many teams are in some of these leagues. There won't be much room on these top 20 lists with so many potential prospects there.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Jay Jackson got hammered in the end for 5 runs on 3 HR's. There's a part of me that wonders if he's better off in the pen, but I still think he could be a 3/4 type starter. Maybe that's wishful thinking.

 

 

All I have to say is that if anyone in the organizationcomes up with the bright idea to temporarily convert Archer or McNutt to the pen, they best be fired immediately.

[risico]

Brett Jackson stole another base and is now 12 for 14 while at Tennessee. He's really improved his success rate in that area which is encouraging to see. Also, an OBP of .385 at AA is tremendous.

 

Golden had a pretty good game going 2/4 with 2R and a SB.

 

McNutt is awesome. There's not much more that needs to be said.

[ScrubMD]

McNutt's last 4 starts: 17.2 IP - 1 ER - 20/1 K/BB - 9H

 

The only ER and BB came in the start where he only went 1.2 IP due to a blister. I have high hopes for this young man.

[Outshined_One]

Golden had a pretty good game going 2/4 with 2R and a SB.

 

He stole home for that SB, to boot.

[davell]

Golden had a pretty good game going 2/4 with 2R and a SB.

 

He stole home for that SB, to boot.

 

The Golden Era has begun........ :D Sorry.

 

 

 

Raisin, I thought about that in the midst of posting and also remembering we didn;t get all that many guys in last year's top 20's.......I think I'm going to do some serious looking in those leagues later tonight and make a much more educated guess as to who we may get in......But, you're right for sure, we'll be lucky if we see alot of names, based on the amount of teams alone.

 

 

One thing I'll say for sure though, next year's top 100 is going to be vastly different than this year's. Because there have been a ton of graduations and more that may happen as well, since guys seem to be getting called up left and right.......What are the qualifications again? Is it 150 at bats or 45 days straight in the majors for hitters and 50 innings or 45 days for pitchers?

[Guest]

Raisin, I thought about that in the midst of posting and also remembering we didn;t get all that many guys in last year's top 20's.......I think I'm going to do some serious looking in those leagues later tonight and make a much more educated guess as to who we may get in......But, you're right for sure, we'll be lucky if we see alot of names, based on the amount of teams alone.

 

 

One thing I'll say for sure though, next year's top 100 is going to be vastly different than this year's. Because there have been a ton of graduations and more that may happen as well, since guys seem to be getting called up left and right.......What are the qualifications again? Is it 150 at bats or 45 days straight in the majors for hitters and 50 innings or 45 days for pitchers?

 

It's actually 130 at bats, 50 innings or 45 days before the rosters expand (September 1). It doesn't have to be 45 consecutive days. BA ignores the 45 day requirement which can be annoying.

[Guest]

And let's not forget to congratulate Micah Gibbs on finally cracking the .100 batting average and .300 OPS barrier in the gauntlet that is the Northwest League.

[davell]

Raisin, I thought about that in the midst of posting and also remembering we didn;t get all that many guys in last year's top 20's.......I think I'm going to do some serious looking in those leagues later tonight and make a much more educated guess as to who we may get in......But, you're right for sure, we'll be lucky if we see alot of names, based on the amount of teams alone.

 

 

One thing I'll say for sure though, next year's top 100 is going to be vastly different than this year's. Because there have been a ton of graduations and more that may happen as well, since guys seem to be getting called up left and right.......What are the qualifications again? Is it 150 at bats or 45 days straight in the majors for hitters and 50 innings or 45 days for pitchers?

 

It's actually 130 at bats, 50 innings or 45 days before the rosters expand (September 1). It doesn't have to be 45 consecutive days. BA ignores the 45 day requirement which can be annoying.

 

So, if you get called up July 17th and don't get 130 at bats, you're still considered a rookie heading into the next season?

[Guest]

Raisin, I thought about that in the midst of posting and also remembering we didn;t get all that many guys in last year's top 20's.......I think I'm going to do some serious looking in those leagues later tonight and make a much more educated guess as to who we may get in......But, you're right for sure, we'll be lucky if we see alot of names, based on the amount of teams alone.

 

 

One thing I'll say for sure though, next year's top 100 is going to be vastly different than this year's. Because there have been a ton of graduations and more that may happen as well, since guys seem to be getting called up left and right.......What are the qualifications again? Is it 150 at bats or 45 days straight in the majors for hitters and 50 innings or 45 days for pitchers?

 

It's actually 130 at bats, 50 innings or 45 days before the rosters expand (September 1). It doesn't have to be 45 consecutive days. BA ignores the 45 day requirement which can be annoying.

 

So, if you get called up July 17th and don't get 130 at bats, you're still considered a rookie heading into the next season?

 

Sorry...the 130 at bats and 50 innings can include September. The 45 days that must be during active rosters, before September 1st:

 

Determining rookie status:

 

A player shall be considered a rookie unless, during a previous season or seasons, he has (a) exceeded 130 at-bats or 50 innings pitched in the Major Leagues; or (b) accumulated more than 45 days on the active roster of a Major League club or clubs during the period of 25-player limit (excluding time in the military service and time on the disabled list).

[davell]

I just looked up the PCL. BA's requirements differ slightly from rookie status as it is, since as long as you spend 1/3 of the season there, they'll still list you on this list, even if you're a major leaguer......

 

Anyway, the ONLY hope we have for anyone on this list will be Jay Jackson. Some of the other guys that qualify for this league include Arencibia, B Wallace, Posey, Bumgarner, Morrison, Scheppers, Moustakas, J Castro, Carter, Bourjos, Conger, Halman, Ackley and Pineda. That's 14 right there, almost all of who should be ranked higher than Jay. Then, you have guys like Brock Bond, Brandon Allen, Mark Trumbo, and Blake Beavan. Plus, a bunch of other guys that would certainly keep a Darwin Barney off the list anyway......If Jackson makes the top 15, we should be happy here.