Bears 2010 preseason thread

[soapy]

I don't think anyone here is actually worried about the Bears finishing the preseason winless, but just in case they are, I'll point out that the Colts were also winless this preseason and were outscored by 70 points in the 4 games (Bears were outscored by 38).

 

Also, since 2006 the 9 teams that went 0-4 in the preseason had an average record of 7-9 in the regular season. The 7 teams that went 4-0 in the preseason had an average record of.....6-10. Heavily skewed by the 2008 0-16 Lions but without them it comes out to 7.5-8.5 (so 8-8).

 

But 7-9 would really suck.

 

would it?

 

It would to me. Depending on how it unfolded, I'd worry it would be just enough to keep Lovie, Angelo, et al. around.

[jersey cubs fan]

I don't think anyone here is actually worried about the Bears finishing the preseason winless, but just in case they are, I'll point out that the Colts were also winless this preseason and were outscored by 70 points in the 4 games (Bears were outscored by 38).

 

Also, since 2006 the 9 teams that went 0-4 in the preseason had an average record of 7-9 in the regular season. The 7 teams that went 4-0 in the preseason had an average record of.....6-10. Heavily skewed by the 2008 0-16 Lions but without them it comes out to 7.5-8.5 (so 8-8).

 

But 7-9 would really suck.

 

would it?

 

How would it not? No playoffs for 4th straight year. Possibly not bad enough to get some much needed change in management/coaching. Could easily lead to the deterioration of the Jay Cutler era before it gets a chance to get off the ground. Absolutely no step forward. It might not be surprising, but it would really suck.

[Soul]

I don't think anyone here is actually worried about the Bears finishing the preseason winless, but just in case they are, I'll point out that the Colts were also winless this preseason and were outscored by 70 points in the 4 games (Bears were outscored by 38).

 

Also, since 2006 the 9 teams that went 0-4 in the preseason had an average record of 7-9 in the regular season. The 7 teams that went 4-0 in the preseason had an average record of.....6-10. Heavily skewed by the 2008 0-16 Lions but without them it comes out to 7.5-8.5 (so 8-8).

 

But 7-9 would really suck.

 

would it?

 

How would it not? No playoffs for 4th straight year. Possibly not bad enough to get some much needed change in management/coaching. Could easily lead to the deterioration of the Jay Cutler era before it gets a chance to get off the ground. Absolutely no step forward. It might not be surprising, but it would really suck.

 

Well, OK. I'm of the mind that 7-9 gets Lovie fired though -- that's the angle I was taking. I think the sooner Cutler can get away from Lovie's ball n' chain, the better, regardless of whether it means another system change.

[jersey cubs fan]

Well, OK. I'm of the mind that 7-9 gets Lovie fired though -- that's the angle I was taking. I think the sooner Cutler can get away from Lovie's ball n' chain, the better, regardless of whether it means another system change.

 

It's really hard to say. Maybe it's the unjustified faith Ricketts is apparently showing Hendry that has me concerned, but Angelo and Lovie have been around forever and allowed to flounder for a while now, but they've never been as bad as the bad Cubs teams have been (outside of the first year after Jauron). With the possible lockout coming up, I can really see management being more than happy to stick with status quo with a 7-9 season. There is no good reason why Lovie still has a job today, but he does. He's signed through next year anyway and 7-9 records at least allow for the "a couple breaks here or there" storyline to be sold, if not bought.

[UMFan83]

My point was that there is no link between preseason record and regular season record. I'm sure if there were stats for 2-2 and 1-3 they would be hovering in the 9-7 to 7-9 range as well.

[jersey cubs fan]

My point was that there is no link between preseason record and regular season record. I'm sure if there were stats for 2-2 and 1-3 they would be hovering in the 9-7 to 7-9 range as well.

 

Sure the record doesn't matter, but the performance was very disappointing regardless. The fact that previous teams went 0-4 and ended up really good also doesn't matter.

[UMFan83]

My point was that there is no link between preseason record and regular season record. I'm sure if there were stats for 2-2 and 1-3 they would be hovering in the 9-7 to 7-9 range as well.

 

Sure the record doesn't matter, but the performance was very disappointing regardless. The fact that previous teams went 0-4 and ended up really good also doesn't matter.

 

Yes the performance was disapointing, but its hard to not look disapointed when going 0-4 in a 4 game span. I can't see a scenario where any football team would lose all 4 of their preseason games and their fans saying "im more optimistic about my teams chances after watching this preseason".

 

My point was that it doesn't necessarily mean they are going to be horrible. I'm sure a lot of decent teams that went 0-4 in the preseason probably lost becuase of their reserves performances, while their starters played decent. And other 0-4 teams probably play bad all around and then went on to have a good regular season. And some 4-0 looked awesome in the preseason only to be horrible in the regular season.

 

I was disapointed with a lot of what i saw in the preseason too, but im not necessarily ready to throw in the towel either. They looked pretty bad in the 06 preseason as well if I remember correctly.

[jersey cubs fan]

My point was that there is no link between preseason record and regular season record. I'm sure if there were stats for 2-2 and 1-3 they would be hovering in the 9-7 to 7-9 range as well.

 

Sure the record doesn't matter, but the performance was very disappointing regardless. The fact that previous teams went 0-4 and ended up really good also doesn't matter.

 

Yes the performance was disapointing, but its hard to not look disapointed when going 0-4 in a 4 game span. I can't see a scenario where any football team would lose all 4 of their preseason games and their fans saying "im more optimistic about my teams chances after watching this preseason".

 

I could see that easily. A lot of the excuses about preseason not mattering is that guys who don't make the team influence the outcome. If the starters played well and left with leads but undrafted rookies gave it up, that's an 0-4 that might not reflect the play. But this team was disappointing from the starters on down to the backups. And unlike the Colts they have a poor history of performance as well.

[Soul]

Well, they also act like the Colts in preseason in that they rest starters beyond the norm and don't do much other than vanilla offense and defense, even though they've got no record of success that says they can get away with that.

 

So it's a bit of a double-edged sword.

 

The bottom line for me is that the Bears just don't seem to treat the offseason and preseason with the kind of alacrity that I would expect from a team that has been mediocre and has many people fighting for their jobs. But then again, what do I know. I'm just a stupid fan who has no clue, like all of you.

[NCCubFan]

Time to send this thread off into retirement since preseason is over and the week 1 thread has been started.