Should Marlon Byrd be the one traded?

[Little Slide Rooter]

-assuming Tyler Colvin finishes strong, and proves he can be a solid major leaguer he can take CF in 2011. Id give him some innings in center just to see how it works out

-Soriano isnt going anywhere, thats pretty much fact. Hes our LF for the next 4.5 years, through good and through bad.

-Ideally, Kosukes the guy traded, but if nobodys interested enough to give up either solid prospects or sufficent salary relief, he may not be living up to the hype, but hes too good to eat that much money to simply open up a roster spot. Just give him a RH platoon partner, like Nady if we could get him back for cheap, or someone similar on next years FA market.

-If we wait until the offseason, Byrd could be an ideal sell high candidate. We got him for a great deal I beleive 5.5 mil owed in 2011 and 6.5 in 2012, so that would make him a lot more attractive to more teams than Kosuke. assuming Byrd finishes strong, he could net us some nice prospects and free up a at least some salary.

[Sammy Sofa]

If they can get a good return, why not? Thinking Colvin can man CF as a starter, however, is a pretty big leap to make.

[CUBZ99]

Everyone not named Castro, Cashner, or Colvin should be a candidate to be traded for the right price. I'm only half joking.

[Sammy Sofa]

Why trade Soto? Why trade Gorzelanny? Why trade Wells?

 

I understand the "back the truck up" mentality, and sure, I guess if a team out there is really blowing the Cubs away with an offer for those guys, but why seek to dump cheap, young, productive players?

Edited July 6, 2010 by Sammy Sofa

[Little Slide Rooter]

Why trade Soto? Why trade Gorzelanny? Why trade Wells?

 

I understand the "back the track up" mentality, and sure, I guess if a team out there is really blowing the Cubs away with an offer for those guys, but why seek to dump cheap, young, productive players?

 

I just dont get why Soto is so unappreciated. Brian McCann, whose supposedly the measuring stick for NL Catchers from an offensive standpoint is hitting .265/.381/.449 with 10 HRs. Well, Soto, whose sharing a bit too much time with the likes of Koyie Hill is hitting .277/.404/.468 with 8HR. In fact, looking over offensive stats of NL catchers, the only one who really seems any better than soto is Colorodos Miquel Oliva hitting .307/.363/.538 with 11HR.

[cubfan]

-assuming Tyler Colvin finishes strong, and proves he can be a solid major leaguer he can take CF in 2011. Id give him some innings in center just to see how it works out

-Soriano isnt going anywhere, thats pretty much fact. Hes our LF for the next 4.5 years, through good and through bad.

-Ideally, Kosukes the guy traded, but if nobodys interested enough to give up either solid prospects or sufficent salary relief, he may not be living up to the hype, but hes too good to eat that much money to simply open up a roster spot. Just give him a RH platoon partner, like Nady if we could get him back for cheap, or someone similar on next years FA market.

-If we wait until the offseason, Byrd could be an ideal sell high candidate. We got him for a great deal I beleive 5.5 mil owed in 2011 and 6.5 in 2012, so that would make him a lot more attractive to more teams than Kosuke. assuming Byrd finishes strong, he could net us some nice prospects and free up a at least some salary.

 

Not saying it would work out this way, but if they traded Byrd wouldn't be better to put Kosuke in CF and Colvin in RF?

[XZero771679666304]

I don't like the idea of trading Byrd, unless it's to get a team to take a bad contract a long with him. He makes relatively little, gives good production for his position, plays good defense, and has 2 remaining years. It really is a good contract, and I really like Marlon's energy.

 

Colvin isn't much better than average on the corners, and sure isn't good in CF. Kosuke is better, but he isn't going to wow anyone in CF, either. Considering Soriano is nigh immovable, Kosuke is the one you have to try and deal.

 

Now if Lee can be moved but not Kosuke, I think you might let Colvin try out 1B, at least for the rest of the season.

[Little Slide Rooter]

-assuming Tyler Colvin finishes strong, and proves he can be a solid major leaguer he can take CF in 2011. Id give him some innings in center just to see how it works out

-Soriano isnt going anywhere, thats pretty much fact. Hes our LF for the next 4.5 years, through good and through bad.

-Ideally, Kosukes the guy traded, but if nobodys interested enough to give up either solid prospects or sufficent salary relief, he may not be living up to the hype, but hes too good to eat that much money to simply open up a roster spot. Just give him a RH platoon partner, like Nady if we could get him back for cheap, or someone similar on next years FA market.

-If we wait until the offseason, Byrd could be an ideal sell high candidate. We got him for a great deal I beleive 5.5 mil owed in 2011 and 6.5 in 2012, so that would make him a lot more attractive to more teams than Kosuke. assuming Byrd finishes strong, he could net us some nice prospects and free up a at least some salary.

 

Not saying it would work out this way, but if they traded Byrd wouldn't be better to put Kosuke in CF and Colvin in RF?

 

Even when hes not hitting, in RF, Kosuke proves his worth as a defensive specialist, however, in CF hes average at best.

[inari]

-assuming Tyler Colvin finishes strong, and proves he can be a solid major leaguer he can take CF in 2011. Id give him some innings in center just to see how it works out

-Soriano isnt going anywhere, thats pretty much fact. Hes our LF for the next 4.5 years, through good and through bad.

-Ideally, Kosukes the guy traded, but if nobodys interested enough to give up either solid prospects or sufficent salary relief, he may not be living up to the hype, but hes too good to eat that much money to simply open up a roster spot. Just give him a RH platoon partner, like Nady if we could get him back for cheap, or someone similar on next years FA market.

-If we wait until the offseason, Byrd could be an ideal sell high candidate. We got him for a great deal I beleive 5.5 mil owed in 2011 and 6.5 in 2012, so that would make him a lot more attractive to more teams than Kosuke. assuming Byrd finishes strong, he could net us some nice prospects and free up a at least some salary.

 

Not saying it would work out this way, but if they traded Byrd wouldn't be better to put Kosuke in CF and Colvin in RF?

 

Even when hes not hitting, in RF, Kosuke proves his worth as a defensive specialist, however, in CF hes average at best.

 

The same can be said about Colvin, except he doesn't provide a defensive boost anywhere.

[Tracer Bullet]

I guess I don't understand the point of threads like these. If someone gives us a good return for Byrd, you wouldn't turn it down. But isn't that true of every player? There is no 2002 Mark Prior on this team. I'd trade any player for a good return.

 

But if we're asking if we should shop Marlon Byrd, no - why would we? We don't have to trade him to get Colvin some time in CF. We don't need to dump any player to get Colvin more ABs, esp not a solid player with a team-friendly contract. So if you get a wow offer, you take it. But good teams don't seek to trade good players signed to team-friendly contracts with no obvious better/cheaper replacement in house.

[rocket]

he's good and he's cheap. maybe in 2012 when he's up to $6.5 million we trade him. but when he's making $3 million this year and 5.5 next, i don't really see the point, unless a team blows us away with a deal, which is unlikely.

[SweetZombieJesus]

Both Fuku and Byrd should be traded. Then throw a hat into next season's carl crawford sweepstakes.

[cubfan]

-assuming Tyler Colvin finishes strong, and proves he can be a solid major leaguer he can take CF in 2011. Id give him some innings in center just to see how it works out

-Soriano isnt going anywhere, thats pretty much fact. Hes our LF for the next 4.5 years, through good and through bad.

-Ideally, Kosukes the guy traded, but if nobodys interested enough to give up either solid prospects or sufficent salary relief, he may not be living up to the hype, but hes too good to eat that much money to simply open up a roster spot. Just give him a RH platoon partner, like Nady if we could get him back for cheap, or someone similar on next years FA market.

-If we wait until the offseason, Byrd could be an ideal sell high candidate. We got him for a great deal I beleive 5.5 mil owed in 2011 and 6.5 in 2012, so that would make him a lot more attractive to more teams than Kosuke. assuming Byrd finishes strong, he could net us some nice prospects and free up a at least some salary.

 

Not saying it would work out this way, but if they traded Byrd wouldn't be better to put Kosuke in CF and Colvin in RF?

 

Even when hes not hitting, in RF, Kosuke proves his worth as a defensive specialist, however, in CF hes average at best.

 

The same can be said about Colvin, except he doesn't provide a defensive boost anywhere.

 

I was under the impression that Colvin would probably be less than avg in CF and the Kosuke would be a step up from Colvin at least even if he may just be avg himself.

[Careless]

I was under the impression that Colvin would probably be less than avg in CF and the Kosuke would be a step up from Colvin at least even if he may just be avg himself.

Yes, but Fukudome is also better than Colvin in RF. Pretty much anyone with a decent arm is better in RF than CF.

[MSG T]

 

Now if Lee can be moved but not Kosuke, I think you might let Colvin try out 1B, at least for the rest of the season.

 

Just asking, why not move Soriano to 1B for the rest of the season? Colvin could stay in a spot where he's fairly comfortable, Soriano has played in the infield (granted, not very well) before and might be willing to move. Maybe they could convince him it would take some strain off his knees and help him stay healthier through the season.

 

 

They'd probably just call up Hoffpauir, though.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

 

Now if Lee can be moved but not Kosuke, I think you might let Colvin try out 1B, at least for the rest of the season.

 

Just asking, why not move Soriano to 1B for the rest of the season? Colvin could stay in a spot where he's fairly comfortable, Soriano has played in the infield (granted, not very well) before and might be willing to move. Maybe they could convince him it would take some strain off his knees and help him stay healthier through the season.

 

 

They'd probably just call up Hoffpauir, though.

I could see Lou preferring to not move Soriano to 1B because he's right-handed, easily forgetting that Lee has been there for the past several years.

[cubfan]

I was under the impression that Colvin would probably be less than avg in CF and the Kosuke would be a step up from Colvin at least even if he may just be avg himself.

Yes, but Fukudome is also better than Colvin in RF. Pretty much anyone with a decent arm is better in RF than CF.

 

I always thought you wanted the outfielder with the best range in CF and arm strength was secondary. If arm strength in RF was the top priority, they should have left Fukudome in RF and played Bradley in CF.

[chasinf5s]

Why trade Soto? Why trade Gorzelanny? Why trade Wells?

 

I understand the "back the truck up" mentality, and sure, I guess if a team out there is really blowing the Cubs away with an offer for those guys, but why seek to dump cheap, young, productive players?

 

I wonder if the people who want to trade Soto actually watch or know anything about baseball. The guy is cheap, gets on base, is a decent catcher and did i mention is CHEAP. It's not his fault that Lou is a moron.

[SCCubbieFAN]

If Byrd is traded, it better be because the Cubs plan to draft Jackie Bradley, Jr. next year! :D