What's wrong with Aramis?

[jersey cubs fan]

This feels a lot like the Soriano situation last year, where he was playing hurt but had to much pride to take any time off. Maybe Aramis is still a bit self-conscious of his injury prone label that he had moreso early in his career and wants to play through it. If this is the case, sitting him and not hitting him 4th/5th when he is in the lineup is the best move. At this point, I'm a lot more confident in Fontebaker than Aramis.

 

I doubt it has anything to do with being self conscious of his image. If it is injury related and won't go on the DL, it's probably because all signs are that it's not a big enough injury to land him on the DL. Was it Rolen that spent a season hitting like crap with a shoulder problem that wasn't bad enough to land him on the DL?

 

What is 'bad enough' to go on the DL, though? If you can take 15 days off and feel a lot better rather than consistently struggling and needing a lot off days, then there's a choice to be made. Whether the choice is made by Aramis, Piniella, Hendry or all of the above is what we don't know, but players have gone on the DL in similar circumstances before.

 

If you have a seperated shoulder, a doctor tells you, and you go on the DL. If your shoulder seems fine, but something is off after the healing process (something like scar tissue), you may have no idea other than the poor results.

[KaiserCesar]

This feels a lot like the Soriano situation last year, where he was playing hurt but had to much pride to take any time off. Maybe Aramis is still a bit self-conscious of his injury prone label that he had moreso early in his career and wants to play through it. If this is the case, sitting him and not hitting him 4th/5th when he is in the lineup is the best move. At this point, I'm a lot more confident in Fontebaker than Aramis.

 

I doubt it has anything to do with being self conscious of his image. If it is injury related and won't go on the DL, it's probably because all signs are that it's not a big enough injury to land him on the DL. Was it Rolen that spent a season hitting like crap with a shoulder problem that wasn't bad enough to land him on the DL?

 

What is 'bad enough' to go on the DL, though? If you can take 15 days off and feel a lot better rather than consistently struggling and needing a lot off days, then there's a choice to be made. Whether the choice is made by Aramis, Piniella, Hendry or all of the above is what we don't know, but players have gone on the DL in similar circumstances before.

 

If you have a seperated shoulder, a doctor tells you, and you go on the DL. If your shoulder seems fine, but something is off after the healing process (something like scar tissue), you may have no idea other than the poor results.

 

Yeah, but in this case, we aren't just talking about his separated shoulder.

[jersey cubs fan]

Yeah, but in this case, we aren't just talking about his separated shoulder.

 

I'm not sure what you are talking about, I was just giving an example to answer your question about how something could be "not bad enough to go on the DL". If it's something that is not obviously bothering a guy to the point that a doctor can say this is what is wrong with you, you need 3 weeks rest to heal, then that could be something you can physically play through, but possibly not play well.

[KaiserCesar]

Yeah, but in this case, we aren't just talking about his separated shoulder.

 

I'm not sure what you are talking about, I was just giving an example to answer your question about how something could be "not bad enough to go on the DL". If it's something that is not obviously bothering a guy to the point that a doctor can say this is what is wrong with you, you need 3 weeks rest to heal, then that could be something you can physically play through, but possibly not play well.

 

Ah yeah, I think I just misinterpreted what you were saying. I guess right now, if there's anything seriously wrong it's undiagnosed, it's hard to say DL stint will solve anything, so the current approach is probably best.

[bhogg]

I'm no expert, but I'd say Aramis needs to do a better job of watching the ball.

 

I took this on Saturday night. . . . you can't hit what you can't see

 

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs289.snc3/28105_399081623468_629003468_4047262_7897986_n.jpg

 

 

 

this is also where I blast Vance for not saying "hello" on Friday night. . . . walked right by me and we both gave each other that "hey I know that guy" look. . .hahahaha.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I'm no expert, but I'd say Aramis needs to do a better job of watching the ball.

 

I took this on Saturday night. . . . you can't hit what you can't see

 

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs289.snc3/28105_399081623468_629003468_4047262_7897986_n.jpg

 

 

 

this is also where I blast Vance for not saying "hello" on Friday night. . . . walked right by me and we both gave each other that "hey I know that guy" look. . .hahahaha.

 

Where did I walk by you?

 

I was there for all three games.

[bhogg]

Section 51 on Friday night. If it wasn't you it was your evil twin.

 

Funny thing about the Arlington bleachers --- 3 games, 3 fights with ejections (minimum). It happened every night. The funniest was the guy who got caught loading illegal booze into his "back pack with a straw." He was hammered.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Section 51 on Friday night. If it wasn't you it was your evil twin.

 

Funny thing about the Arlington bleachers --- 3 games, 3 fights with ejections (minimum). It happened every night. The funniest was the guy who got caught loading illegal booze into his "back pack with a straw." He was hammered.

 

That was likely me; I was in section 50 that night.

 

I was in 218 on Saturday and then in 23 on Sunday.

[MWV]

Section 51 on Friday night. If it wasn't you it was your evil twin.

 

Funny thing about the Arlington bleachers --- 3 games, 3 fights with ejections (minimum). It happened every night. The funniest was the guy who got caught loading illegal booze into his "back pack with a straw." He was hammered.

 

That was likely me; I was in section 50 that night.

 

I was in 218 on Saturday and then in 23 on Sunday.

You have a backpack with a straw?

[PackLandVA]

Can Aramis be put on the DL if he's hurting the team???

[erik316wttn]

Can Aramis be put on the DL if he's hurting the team???

 

Maybe Grabow could earn his keep and kneecap him in the clubhouse.

 

Nothing too bad, just enough for a DL stint.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Can Aramis be put on the DL if he's hurting the team???

 

Its really more Lou hurting the team than Aramis. Even if he is going to be given the chance to work his way out of this horrendous, season long slump, it needs to be from the 7 or 8 spot, not the 4 or 5.

[questionmarkgrace]

Can Aramis be put on the DL if he's hurting the team???

 

Its really more Lou hurting the team than Aramis. Even if he is going to be given the chance to work his way out of this horrendous, season long slump, it needs to be from the 7 or 8 spot, not the 4 or 5.

 

 

this is definitely part of it. Why lou insists on Lee and Ramirez batting in the key spots of the order when they have been so unreliable this year is beyond me.

 

Aramis used to be a pretty good bad ball hitter but is just flailing at everything and k-ing more than ever before. Both him and Lee need to stop saying that they are their own best hitting coach, check their ego's and take some pointers from Rudy J. He's go everyone else raking so wtf?