Bulls Offseason Thread

[SpongeWorthy]

I'm just going to assume this Wade/James thing is the flavor of the day rumor just like the Stephen A. Smith was.

[Banedon]

Dirk is serviceable...lol

[DivineBovine]

I must be the only one who can't see Wade and LeBron playing together. I can maybe see Wade wanting to play with LeBron, but not the other way around. Both SG/SF type players who want to be the focus of the team. Tons of ability and talent, but too much ego and not enough ball.

 

I'll gladly take one or the other as a Bulls fan.

[da bears]

this is getting to be too much. how the hell am i supposed to not get my hopes up now? ugh, what if the bulls still strike out. i might stop watching the nba altogether.

[Banedon]

I'm just going to assume this Wade/James thing is the flavor of the day rumor just like the Stephen A. Smith was.

 

Except that Wade is actually going to have a second meeting with the Bulls....

[Guest]

I must be the only one who can't see Wade and LeBron playing together. I can maybe see Wade wanting to play with LeBron, but not the other way around. Both SG/SF type players who want to be the focus of the team. Tons of ability and talent, but too much ego and not enough ball.

 

I'll gladly take one or the other as a Bulls fan.

They did fine on the dream team.

[ConstableRabbit]

That bulls team would shoot 80 FTs per game

[David]

I'm just going to assume this Wade/James thing is the flavor of the day rumor just like the Stephen A. Smith was.

 

 

It's a bit different when the FA period has actually started, though.

[DivineBovine]

I'm just going to assume this Wade/James thing is the flavor of the day rumor just like the Stephen A. Smith was.

 

Except that Wade is actually going to have a second meeting with the Bulls....

 

 

Maybe this all works to get LeBron to want to come to Chicago even more by making the team look appealing to even Wade, who has looked all along like he was staying in Miami.

 

If this gets us LeBron only, I perfectly happy.

[Guest]

Umm. Wow.

[SpongeWorthy]

I must be the only one who can't see Wade and LeBron playing together. I can maybe see Wade wanting to play with LeBron, but not the other way around. Both SG/SF type players who want to be the focus of the team. Tons of ability and talent, but too much ego and not enough ball.

 

I'll gladly take one or the other as a Bulls fan.

They did fine on the dream team.

 

That's 2 weeks not 5 years. Even Jordan deferred to Barkley on the original dream team but I don't think anyone would've expected that to last if they were on the same team.

 

I've gotta at least be consistent with my reasoning. If James won't go to Miami to not be a clear #1 over Wade he won't do it in Chicago.

 

And if this is Wade just angling and getting information well then [expletive] him. Pretty slick though.

[DivineBovine]

I must be the only one who can't see Wade and LeBron playing together. I can maybe see Wade wanting to play with LeBron, but not the other way around. Both SG/SF type players who want to be the focus of the team. Tons of ability and talent, but too much ego and not enough ball.

 

I'll gladly take one or the other as a Bulls fan.

They did fine on the dream team.

 

 

The last time 2 of the top 5 players in the NBA played on the same team was Kobe and Shaq. It didn't end well for them. And even if they did win championships, they still underachieved, because they should have won every single year. They didn't even play the same (similar) position.

[RedFlash]

I've gotta at least be consistent with my reasoning. If James won't go to Miami to not be a clear #1 over Wade he won't do it in Chicago.

 

The difference is, Chicago is a neutral team for both James and Wade. James didn't want to go to Miami to be the 2nd fiddle on WADE'S TEAM". In Chicago they would be in share partnership, a 2010 version of Jordan/Pippen.

Edited July 2, 2010 by RedFlash

[Banedon]

I must be the only one who can't see Wade and LeBron playing together. I can maybe see Wade wanting to play with LeBron, but not the other way around. Both SG/SF type players who want to be the focus of the team. Tons of ability and talent, but too much ego and not enough ball.

 

I'll gladly take one or the other as a Bulls fan.

They did fine on the dream team.

 

 

The last time 2 of the top 5 players in the NBA played on the same team was Kobe and Shaq. It didn't end well for them. And even if they did win championships, they still underachieved, because they should have won every single year. They didn't even play the same (similar) position.

 

Somehow I think Lakers fans think that 3 championships was worth the headache.

[Butterscup1679666578]

Jordan and Pippen didn't share partnership.

[RedFlash]

Jordan and Pippen didn't share partnership.

 

It's a matter of opinion. I think it is fair to say, Jordan doesn't win a title without Pippen in Chicago, thus shared partnership.

[SpongeWorthy]

I've gotta at least be consistent with my reasoning. If James won't go to Miami to not be a clear #1 over Wade he won't do it in Chicago.

 

The difference is, Chicago is a neutral team for both James and Wade. James didn't want to go to Miami to be the 2nd fiddle on WADE'S TEAM". In Chicag they would be in share partnership, a 2010 version of Jordan/Pippen.

 

That's a small difference but maybe meaningful.

 

And no one was ever confused about who the top dog was between MJ and Pip.

[Butterscup1679666578]

Jordan and Pippen didn't share partnership.

 

It's a matter of opinion. I think it is fair to say, Jordan doesn't win a title without Pippen in Chicago, thus shared partnership.

 

I don't think they are related. Pippen was a huge part of the success, but that was Jordan's team. Everyone knew he ran the show.

[RedFlash]

I've gotta at least be consistent with my reasoning. If James won't go to Miami to not be a clear #1 over Wade he won't do it in Chicago.

 

The difference is, Chicago is a neutral team for both James and Wade. James didn't want to go to Miami to be the 2nd fiddle on WADE'S TEAM". In Chicag they would be in share partnership, a 2010 version of Jordan/Pippen.

 

That's a small difference but maybe meaningful.

 

And no one was ever confused about who the top dog was between MJ and Pip.

 

It was Jordan's team, no doubt, BUT who got the toughest defensive assignment every night in Chicago? Pippen deserves EVERY bit the credit for those 6 championships as Jordan does.

[Banedon]

 

Bulls made initial contact with Wade camp for second meeting and were "enthusiastically received."

[SpongeWorthy]

One of the first things I thought when I read that article was that Derrick Rose immediately becomes the most attractive trade bait in a long, long time.

[RedFlash]

Jordan and Pippen didn't share partnership.

 

It's a matter of opinion. I think it is fair to say, Jordan doesn't win a title without Pippen in Chicago, thus shared partnership.

 

I don't think they are related. Pippen was a huge part of the success, but that was Jordan's team. Everyone knew he ran the show.

 

I'm not debating it being Chicago being Jordan's team, I'm just saying Pippen deserves every bit of credit that Jordan gets.

[MidoreX]

Having Rose, Wade, and Lebron is actually reaching the point of diminishing returns. I'd rather have Wade and Bosh than Wade and Lebron (well, maybe). I'd definitely rather have Lebron and Bosh.

 

You know what, I would not turn down watching a Bulls team with Rose/Wade/James led Bulls team. I tell ya that.

 

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-wadelebronbulls072010

 

And now you have this ^^^ who believe the Bulls not only are pushing for a Wade/James partnership (now, I think both Wade and Bulls are using each other to get what each other wants: Wade-Bosh to Miami, and Bulls-James to Chicago) but apparently the Bulls have a deal in place that could send Deng out of Chicago for a "serviceable center." (< I'm thinking either Okur or Gortat)

 

This crap has gotten real and hot in a NY minute.

When i Heard "serviceable center" i got to thinking about guys who have similar contracts - what about Tyson Chandler? Is that a possibility?

Shoulda looked it up before I posted. Chandler makes 12.7 this year and will then be FA. Deng makes 11.3 and has 4 years remaining. So..that's probably not it.

 

 

If we're getting a C back for Deng, would it be logical to assume that Noah would be on his way out too? I hope not, but I'd still do it...

[RedFlash]

One of the first things I thought when I read that article was that Derrick Rose immediately becomes the most attractive trade bait in a long, long time.

 

THE only way I'd trade Rose is if it was for a guy like Chris Paul, other then that I don't see the point in trading Rose, not to mention possibly pissing of LBJ who might be coming to Chicago because of Rose.

[SpongeWorthy]

Having Rose, Wade, and Lebron is actually reaching the point of diminishing returns. I'd rather have Wade and Bosh than Wade and Lebron (well, maybe). I'd definitely rather have Lebron and Bosh.

 

You know what, I would not turn down watching a Bulls team with Rose/Wade/James led Bulls team. I tell ya that.

 

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-wadelebronbulls072010

 

And now you have this ^^^ who believe the Bulls not only are pushing for a Wade/James partnership (now, I think both Wade and Bulls are using each other to get what each other wants: Wade-Bosh to Miami, and Bulls-James to Chicago) but apparently the Bulls have a deal in place that could send Deng out of Chicago for a "serviceable center." (< I'm thinking either Okur or Gortat)

 

This crap has gotten real and hot in a NY minute.

When i Heard "serviceable center" i got to thinking about guys who have similar contracts - what about Tyson Chandler? Is that a possibility?

Shoulda looked it up before I posted. Chandler makes 12.7 this year and will then be FA. Deng makes 11.3 and has 4 years remaining. So..that's probably not it.

 

 

If we're getting a C back for Deng, would it be logical to assume that Noah would be on his way out too? I hope not, but I'd still do it...

 

No I don't think so. Noah is exactly what you would want in a C on a team like that. Hustles his ass off, rebounds, defends, and you never have to run a play for him.