Re: Minor League Discussion & Boxes 4-28-10

[Outshined_One]

Box Scores

 

Iowa with an off day

 

Tennessee lost 6-5 Box Score

 

CF B. Guyer 0/0, BB, R, SB (8)

3B/2B N. Samson 1/3, BB

SS S. Castro 1/4, BB, R

LF/CF T. Wright 0/5, 2 K

C R. Chirinos 2/5, R

2B/LF T. Thomas 1/3, BB, 2 R

RF R. Canzler 2/4, 2 RBI, 2B (5)

DH R. Flaherty 0/3, K, HBP

3B/2B J. Opitz 0/2

PH/3B S. Clevenger 0/1, RBI, K, E (1, missed catch)

SP A. Bibens-Dirkx 7 IP, 3 H, 3 ER, 8/2 K/BB, 6-7 GO-FO

RP A. Maestri 1.2 IP, 1 H, 1 R, 0 ER, 2/0 K/BB, 2-1 GO-FO

 

Daytona lost 5-3 Box Score

 

CF B. Jackson 2/4, R, 3B (3)

2B DJ LeMahieu 1/3, R, 2 RBI, E (3, fielding)

RF K. Burke 0/4

1B R. Ridling 1/4, RBI, 2B (1), K

DH M. Spencer 0/4

3B J. Vitters 0/4, K

C M. Brenly 0/3

SS J. Lake 1/3, R, CS (3)

SP C. Archer 3.1 IP, 5 H, 2 ER, 4/4 K/BB, 4-2 GO-FO

RP R. Searle 3.2 IP, 3 H, 1 ER, 1/0 K/BB, HR, 4-4 GO-FO

 

Peoria won 4-2 Box Score

 

SS HJ Lee 1/5

2B L. Watkins 1/3, BB, 3B (2), K

DH M. Cerda 0/3, BB, K

3B G. Rohan 1/4, R, K

1B J. Bour 1/3, BB, R, K

C J. Mota 2/3, R, RBI

LF R. Jones 2/4, R, 2 RBI, 2B (4)

CF J. Valdez 0/3, 2 K, Assist (3B)

RF F. Guzman 0/3, RBI, K, Assist (Home)

SP SM Jung 4 IP, 5 H, 2 ER, 1/3 K/BB, 2 WP, 3-5 GO-FO

RP R. Morla 2 scoreless, 2 H, 2/1 K/BB, HBP, 1-2 GO-FO

RP B. Beliveau 2 scoreless, 1 H, 3/1 K/BB, 3-0 GO-FO

RP J. Latham 1 scoreless, 1 H, 1/1 K/BB, 0-1 GO-FO

 

OVERALL: 1-2

[Guest]

Probable Starters

 

Tennessee: RHP Austin Bibens-Dirkx (0-1, 4.09 ERA, 11 IP, 4 BB, 10 K)

Daytona: RHP Chris Archer (0-1, 8.18 ERA, 11 IP, 5 BB, 11 K)

Peoria: RHP Su-Min Jung (3-0, 0.00 ERA, 14 IP, 8 BB, 10 K)

[TruffleShuffle]

i found this while looking up information about austin bibens-dirkx

 

http://www.myspace.com/austindirkx

 

hopefully baseball works out for him, because yikes to this music.

 

edit - though it is Christian "rock" and that stuff is usually bad.

[TruffleShuffle]

guyer drew a walk in his first PA. he's pretty interesting because his discipline was bad at peoria in 2008 (19 BB, 63 K in 88 games), then he was really good in daytona last year (.347/.407/.453 with 24 BB and 34 K in 73 games) and God-awful at Tennessee (

pretty good in daytona last year (.190/.236/.291/.527 with 10 BB and 33 K in 57 games). so far this year he's off to a good start with tennessee and has 13 BB and 7 K in 19 games. maybe AA was too much of a jump for him last season. supposedly he has good tools so it's worth keeping an eye on him.

[Guest]

If Guyer can find usable power during games, he'll be a great 4th OF in the majors.

[toonsterwu]

He really needs that power, though. Without decent-solid power, his value bottoms out. He certainly has the raw power. I think he could be a Eric Byrnes-esque type player if things pan out. So far, it's a decent start to the year.

[Guest]

He really needs that power, though. Without decent-solid power, his value bottoms out. He certainly has the raw power. I think he could be a Eric Byrnes-esque type player if things pan out. So far, it's a decent start to the year.

right - he doesn't have the speed or top end defense to be a major league player unless he can utilize the raw power during games.

[TruffleShuffle]

lemahieu had better develop at least a little power or he's not going to be anything. he has 54 hits as a pro and all but 7 have been singles.

[toonsterwu]

agreed. At the very least, for LeMahieu to have a shot, he needs a Matt Murton type bat. He doesn't need to hit for power unless he can't stick at 2nd, but he needs to make good contact and occasionally shoot one into the gaps (and hope for a long ball once in awhile). I mean, he definitely has the body for it. If he struggles ... I do half wonder if it would be worthwhile to rework his swing. I was against that largely because I thought he'd make good contact and have a bit of power.

 

That said, early.

 

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I'm very curious if there's any report on what type of contact Hak-ju Lee is making. If Nate comes around, or if someone twitters him (or whatever it's called, I don't use twitter), maybe they could ask. I'm curious if he's making good contact.

 

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Doesn't seem like a very interesting day for the Cubs. Wish Morla could get a rotation shot, as I liked the reports and the arsenal, but a lot of arms down there that need work. Latham looks like he is ready for Daytona as soon as the Cubs are willing to give him a look. If Beliveau stays in the pen, I think he could probably go up a level sooner than later as well.

 

Gotta say, Bibens-Dirx and Chirinos have been better than I anticipated in the early goings. I wasn't sure ABD's stuff would be able to hold up in the upper levels as a starter.

[17 Seconds]

another walk from castro tonight. that's 4 in his last 7 games. good to see.

[toonsterwu]

Random comment about Castro and discipline - The KG report on Castro's discipline awhile ago was ... well, put it this way, I thought it was a load of crap, relative to how it was written, and I like KG enough. KG made Castro sound like a wild hacker, with comments like

 

He's a free swinger who needs to learn how to work the count against more advanced pitching. This was the problem with previous top prospects like Corey Patterson and the Cubs inability to control their excitement and avoid rushing their shiny new toy turned out to be that player's undoing.

 

Unless KG knows things that other folks don't, most reports on Castro suggests that he has good enough discipline and an excellent eye. I haven't heard many people say that Castro is a wild hacker, and it certainly didn't seem that way to me. Could he stand to get better? Sure, but that report was off, IMO.

 

Am I off on this? I really don't recall anything to suggest that we should be significantly worried about it.

[Guest]

agreed. At the very least, for LeMahieu to have a shot, he needs a Matt Murton type bat. He doesn't need to hit for power unless he can't stick at 2nd, but he needs to make good contact and occasionally shoot one into the gaps (and hope for a long ball once in awhile). I mean, he definitely has the body for it. If he struggles ... I do half wonder if it would be worthwhile to rework his swing. I was against that largely because I thought he'd make good contact and have a bit of power.

 

That said, early.

 

___________________

 

I'm very curious if there's any report on what type of contact Hak-ju Lee is making. If Nate comes around, or if someone twitters him (or whatever it's called, I don't use twitter), maybe they could ask. I'm curious if he's making good contact.

 

___________________

 

Doesn't seem like a very interesting day for the Cubs. Wish Morla could get a rotation shot, as I liked the reports and the arsenal, but a lot of arms down there that need work. Latham looks like he is ready for Daytona as soon as the Cubs are willing to give him a look. If Beliveau stays in the pen, I think he could probably go up a level sooner than later as well.

 

Gotta say, Bibens-Dirx and Chirinos have been better than I anticipated in the early goings. I wasn't sure ABD's stuff would be able to hold up in the upper levels as a starter.

 

Would love to see Beliveau move up to Daytona and replace him with Marcos Perez at Peoria.

[toonsterwu]

imo, the only reason to keep Beliveau at Peoria is if you plan on stretching him out. If not, there are enough arms ahead that can be released without feeling like we lost something. Granted, we have a decent number of lefties in the higher levels, at least, compared to recent past, but his stuff is probably going to be able to K Low A guys with relative ease.

[davell]

Everything I've read on Castro has said he works the counts, doesn't chase bad pitches, but puts the ball in play once he sees something he likes. Never heard anything about him being a Patterson-esque type swinger.

[Outshined_One]

Speaking of Guyer, does anyone know what happened to him? He was pulled before the top of the second.

[biittner77]

Random comment about Castro and discipline - The KG report on Castro's discipline awhile ago was ... well, put it this way, I thought it was a load of crap, relative to how it was written, and I like KG enough. KG made Castro sound like a wild hacker, with comments like

 

He's a free swinger who needs to learn how to work the count against more advanced pitching. This was the problem with previous top prospects like Corey Patterson and the Cubs inability to control their excitement and avoid rushing their shiny new toy turned out to be that player's undoing.

 

Unless KG knows things that other folks don't, most reports on Castro suggests that he has good enough discipline and an excellent eye. I haven't heard many people say that Castro is a wild hacker, and it certainly didn't seem that way to me. Could he stand to get better? Sure, but that report was off, IMO.

 

Am I off on this? I really don't recall anything to suggest that we should be significantly worried about it.

 

Perhaps this is a perception issue stemming from the AFL. It seems- at least the way I remember it- that Castro didn't walk much and was swinging early in the count during the AFL. Another possibility is that they've never seen him play, they look at his walk rate and wish it was higher. Since it's not they assume he must be a free swinger.

[jersey cubs fan]

Ugh, Vitters is off to a fairly ugly start, .250/.302/.400. Not fun to see with Aramis looking so bad in April as well.

[biittner77]

Ugh, Vitters is off to a fairly ugly start, .250/.302/.400. Not fun to see with Aramis looking so bad in April as well.

 

On the positive side, Ramirez's slow start means they don't have to rush Vitters since it makes it less likely that he will opt out of his contract.

[davell]

Great questions from Toonster to AZPhil yesterday. Huseby is a total wreck right now. Xavier Batista seems like a guy who should be on our radar at this point. He evidently has plus power and a RF arm, just isn't making tons of contact yet. But he's only 18, so he's got time anyway. The taller Wang, who I'm intrigued with, seems to only have one pitch at the moment, but he's also just 18, so he's got time on his side as well......

[toonsterwu]

whoa, thanks for reminding me that i asked him something.

 

hmm ... interesting response on the whole suspended thing. Sounds like he knows. Also seems like he's trying to tell us without telling us. Eh, Flores isn't high enough on my radar (not sold on having enough of a bat to move up ... granted, if he has any sort of bat, he might have a shot as a backup backstop type) that I sort of forgot about him until seeing it the other day.

 

I'll give the Cubs a lot of credit for finding cheaper, toolsy Latin American kids. This Bautista kid sounds fascinating. Now ... let's make sure he doesn't become Perez (with the contact, or lack thereof).

 

Burruel looking decent is probably better than I expected.

[sneakypower]

I'm very curious if there's any report on what type of contact Hak-ju Lee is making. If Nate comes around, or if someone twitters him (or whatever it's called, I don't use twitter), maybe they could ask. I'm curious if he's making good contact.

firstinning has him at 52.5% GB / 15.3% LD / 30.5% FB / 7.4% IBB, for whatever you care to glean from that info