8/30 Mets (Figueroa) vs. Cubs (Zambrano) 1:20 CT, WGN

[RedFlash]

This team is awesome at avoiding sweeps.

 

That is if you believe the Mets bullpen can actually hold a lead, which I don't.

Z isn't done giving them a lead either.

 

True, but I don't see the Mets holding the lead.

[Irrelevant Dude]

Zambrano is so mediocre these days.

 

I personally don't get the hostility when people like Phil Rogers suggest we trade him. I hate Rogers, but at this point I think if we could get decent value for Z we'd be foolish not to pull the trigger.

I think he suggested cutting him.

He did, which is obviously ridiculous. I'd be all for trading him though if we could get anything whatsoever in return without having to eat much of the contract.

[MembersOnlyJacket]

Zambrano is so mediocre these days.

 

His velocity is down a touch and there isn't much difference between the fastball and change-up right now.

 

He's throwing strikes, but fat ones.

[Little Slide Rooter]

So if we let Harden go to Minnesota for a sack of whatever, than we have a very 2006esque pitching staff next year. Dont do it Jim.

[RedFlash]

Zambrano is so mediocre these days.

 

I personally don't get the hostility when people like Phil Rogers suggest we trade him. I hate Rogers, but at this point I think if we could get decent value for Z we'd be foolish not to pull the trigger.

 

Absolutely. Zambrano is a 2/3 disguised as an ace, and I wouldn't cry if the Cubs dealt Zambrano.

[Outshined_One]

So if we let Harden go to Minnesota for a sack of whatever, than we have a very 2006esque pitching staff next year. Dont do it Jim.

 

It's not like Harden's under contract for next year...or has pitched more than 150 innings since 2004.

[Irrelevant Dude]

So if we let Harden go to Minnesota for a sack of whatever, than we have a very 2006esque pitching staff next year. Dont do it Jim.

The decision to trade Harden really has nothing to do with next year. It's about whether Minnesota can offer a package of prospects more valuable than 2 compensation picks.

[illiniguy]

8 K's against Nelson Figueroa. This is like the Kevin Slowey game.

[JonJayCutler]

LOL what the hell is going on?

[Schwarber Fan]

STOP K'ing!

[inari]

So if we let Harden go to Minnesota for a sack of whatever, than we have a very 2006esque pitching staff next year. Dont do it Jim.

 

It's not like Harden's under contract for next year...or has pitched more than 150 innings since 2004.

 

I'm of the opinion that letting Harden go would be a mistake. He's a legit ace.

[E.J.]

8 K's against Nelson Figueroa. This is like the Kevin Slowey game.

 

Gotta love a crappy major league journeyman setting a new career record in K's and it's only the 4th inning.

[Irrelevant Dude]

So if we let Harden go to Minnesota for a sack of whatever, than we have a very 2006esque pitching staff next year. Dont do it Jim.

 

It's not like Harden's under contract for next year...or has pitched more than 150 innings since 2004.

 

I'm of the opinion that letting Harden go would be a mistake. He's a legit ace.

I disagree. In addition to having great stuff, a true ace has to be a reliable innings-eater. Harden has the stuff, but his injury history makes him far from reliable.

[Monco]

So if we let Harden go to Minnesota for a sack of whatever, than we have a very 2006esque pitching staff next year. Dont do it Jim.

 

Zambrano -pitched poorly since hes been back

Dempster -back to being the Dumpster

Harden-new contract

Wells-sophmore season (jinx?)

Lilly-contract year (usually a big season)

 

We may have a 2006esque with him

[JonJayCutler]

Strange line for Zambrano. No walks but 11 hits in 3.1 IP? I don't see how anyone could give up that many hits to this lineup in that short of time. Only the Cubs.

[Outshined_One]

So if we let Harden go to Minnesota for a sack of whatever, than we have a very 2006esque pitching staff next year. Dont do it Jim.

 

It's not like Harden's under contract for next year...or has pitched more than 150 innings since 2004.

 

I'm of the opinion that letting Harden go would be a mistake. He's a legit ace.

I disagree. In addition to having great stuff, a true ace has to be a reliable innings-eater. Harden has the stuff, but his injury history makes him far from reliable.

 

Agreed on this point. I like Harden. When he's healthy and pitching to his potential, he's one of the best pitchers in baseball. The problem is, he just can't stay healthy for extended stretches.

 

I'd love to have him back next year, but I would never offer him more than 2 years.

[Schwarber Fan]

f'in Judd

[E.J.]

Soto, Miles, and Theriot. I'm sure we'll score this inning.

[NotSoSober]

0 for his last 18. How does this guy still have a job?

[Monco]

Miles really tagged that one(by his standards)...

[JonJayCutler]

I don't believe I've ever seen a baseball player as bad as Miles, and yes I was a fan in 2006.

[illiniguy]

At least Miles saw one pitch.

[A-Cal]

so, zambrano is just plain bad now?

[Schwarber Fan]

Man, Sirrot gets way to excited, I thought Bradley hit a HR on that HBP

[Monco]

0 for his last 18. How does this guy still have a job?

 

Well,Lou kept playing Soriano figuring that his slump would have to end at some point.