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That's no guarentee of success.

It's usually a pretty good indicator of it though. Barring a ton of injuries.

Here's the top 3 payrolls from last year and where they finished in their division.

 

Yankees - 3rd place

Tigers - LAST PLACE

Mets - 2nd place

And the Yankees and Tigers had a ton of injuries.

 

Regardless, the point is money is not always a great indicator of how well you'll do. In recent times, yes, the cubs have had a very high payroll. But they've won back to back division titles - last year winning 97 freaking games. So what's your problem? Hendry has been given a ton of money and had lots of recent success. Could he have spent it better? Always. But this bottom-5 crap is ridiculous.

As I've pointed out in the past (2003 or so), it's usually a good indicator, but there's enough randomness in the system that you can never be sure. I did the 5 biggest payroll teams after the Yankees over the previous 5 years, and it came out to something like an 87 win average. One of those teams was the Orioles in their debacle era, so that's not bad.

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Fred Hornkohl GOAT

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Soriano            AB    R    H   2b   3b   HR  RBI   BB   SO     BA    OBP    SLG    OPS  BABIP  P/PA   IsoD   RBI%
RISP               79   12   17    2    0    5   29   16   23  0.215  0.351  0.430  0.781  0.235  3.92  0.135  0.183
Middle (4-6)      119   21   31    7    0    4   15   15   30  0.261  0.346  0.420  0.766  0.318  3.78  0.085  0.177
2 outs            104    8   19    6    0    0    8   17   26  0.183  0.298  0.240  0.538  0.244  4.01  0.115  0.103
CUBS trailing     130   22   36    8    0    8   20   11   39  0.277  0.338  0.523  0.861  0.337  3.88  0.061  0.185
last 14 games      50    8   15    2    0    3   10    6   13  0.300  0.375  0.520  0.895  0.353  3.80  0.075  0.226
August             19    2    3    0    0    0    0    2    6  0.158  0.238  0.158  0.396  0.231  3.67  0.080  0.000
Road              209   30   50   11    0   13   28   17   54  0.239  0.301  0.478  0.780  0.261  3.64  0.062  0.174
Nite              207   29   50   12    0   12   27   18   55  0.242  0.307  0.473  0.780  0.271  3.67  0.065  0.167
vs Right          326   51   87   18    0   17   41   26   73  0.267  0.326  0.479  0.804  0.297  3.72  0.059  0.174
vs Jimemez          3    0    1    0    0    0    0    0    2  0.333  0.333  0.333  0.667  1.000  3.67  0.000  0.000
vs. Colo            8    1    3    0    0    0    0    1    2  0.375  0.444  0.375  0.819  0.500  4.22  0.069  0.000

season totals     408   60  102   22    0   19   48   37  101  0.250  0.316  0.444  0.760  0.288  3.82  0.066  0.168

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illiniguy

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They have. And I think Lou's done a really good job keeping them afloat, but maybe that's more how bad the rest of the division was.

 

I don't believe that. I've seen Cub teams tank, and when that happens they just lose. Almost regardless of competition. I know the division isn't that strong, but I still think the Cubs have done a good job not letting themselves just sink under the weight of the challenges they've faced this season.

These next 7 will be tough.

erik316wttn Chicago Cubs

erik316wttn

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I hate the Cubs.

 

They're like that family member that some people have: You lost all faith in them years ago, you can't count on them for anything, and just when it seems they're going to turn their lives around, they screw up again in an epic fashion. But, you'll always love them and support them no matter what. But you want to kill them on a regular basis.

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Probably not, but there's a better-than-average chance we get someone better than Hendry.

 

And what are basing this on?

 

Look around baseball and look at who the GM's are year after year. Hendry really isn't that bad so that a replacement would be likely to be significantly better than him or even better at all in the big picture.

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Fontenot           AB    R    H   2b   3b   HR  RBI   BB   SO     BA    OBP    SLG    OPS  BABIP  P/PA   IsoD   RBI%
RISP               69    3   12    3    0    2   24   11   21  0.174  0.286  0.304  0.590  0.217  3.95  0.112  0.188
Middle (4-6)      113   14   27    7    1    3   12    9   25  0.239  0.298  0.398  0.697  0.282  3.98  0.059  0.164
2 outs            104    4   20    3    0    2    8   12   21  0.192  0.282  0.279  0.561  0.222  4.13  0.090  0.087
CUBS trailing     107    7   18    5    0    2    6   12   27  0.168  0.252  0.271  0.523  0.205  4.28  0.084  0.074
last 14 games      38    5    8    4    1    2    5    3    8  0.211  0.268  0.526  0.795  0.214  4.37  0.058  0.120
August             17    2    5    3    0    1    3    1    3  0.294  0.333  0.647  0.980  0.308  4.61  0.039  0.200
Road              171   17   43   12    0    6   23   14   37  0.251  0.305  0.427  0.732  0.289  3.98  0.053  0.213
Nite              162   18   36   11    0    7   22   14   34  0.222  0.285  0.420  0.705  0.240  4.09  0.063  0.179
vs Right          253   27   58   14    1    9   29   28   58  0.229  0.307  0.399  0.707  0.263  4.23  0.078  0.148
vs Jimemez          1    0    0    0    0    0    0    1    1  0.000  0.500  0.000  0.500  0.000  6.00  0.500  0.000
vs. Colo            6    0    0    0    0    0    0    3    1  0.000  0.333  0.000  0.333  0.000  4.78  0.333  0.000

season totals     302   30   70   17    2    9   35   30   70  0.232  0.301  0.391  0.691  0.274  4.14  0.069  0.158

bcl412 South Bend Cubs

bcl412

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Wow, bob with a little bit of snark regarding soriano. yikes.

 

It really doesn't matter that much in the long run but it really is stupid that he doesn't even attempt to run hard sometimes.

 

And Fontenot better hope he gets hit or something because he isn't hitting this guy.

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