Why the Cubs can't get Halladay

[jersey cubs fan]

Concerns about drafting and development are hampering the North Siders

 

At first glance, the Chicago Cubs should be an obvious pursuer of Roy Halladay. Selected by most to run away with the National League Central.....

 

Still, even if everything were hunky-dory when it came to ownership, the failure of the organization in the middle years of the decade would keep the team out of contention in trade talks anyway, as the Cubs have done little to help themselves through scouting and player development.

 

The Draft: Mistakes with big picks and writing big checks

 

Player Development: The art of taking a pitch

 

In addition to poorly managed drafts, the Cubs themselves have failed when it comes to development, as four prospects whose tools created sizeable hype failed to live up to expectations. Nearly all of them have the same issue: a lack of plate discipline.

 

Light at the end of the tunnel?

[Banedon]

Boo insider articles.

[Guest]

Here's the highlight of the article:

 

The international scouting department, under the direction of Paul Sullivan, has made some big breakthroughs,

:-))

[jersey cubs fan]

Here's the highlight of the article:

 

The international scouting department, under the direction of Paul Sullivan, has made some big breakthroughs,

:-))

 

That's Paul Weaver, right?

[CliftonHanger]

:lol: God help us all if they put Sullivan in charge of that.

[Guest]

Here's the highlight of the article:

 

The international scouting department, under the direction of Paul Sullivan, has made some big breakthroughs,

:-))

 

That's Paul Weaver, right?

 

The BP story correctly has it as Paul Weaver.

 

Things certainly are better of late, as scouting director Tim Wilken has brought some respectability back to the Cubs' recent drafts. The international scouting department, under the direction of Paul Weaver, has made some big breakthroughs, especially in Asia, as the current team in Boise has a pair of Koreans generating significant buzz: shortstop Hak-Ju Lee and outfielder Jae-Hoon Ha. Still, there's a lot of work left to do to overcome the mistakes of the past...

[Banedon]

Weird, so ESPN took a correct article and changed that one name to be incorrect?

[jersey cubs fan]

Weird, so ESPN took a correct article and changed that one name to be incorrect?

 

Or BP had it wrong in the first place, ESPN printed the article, then BP fixed their version.

[Guest]

It might have initially been incorrect but BP was on top of things since it's actually their original content.

[JeffH]

Light at the end of the tunnel?

 

No.

[erik316wttn]

Why the Cubs can't get Halladay

 

by erik316wttn:

 

Their farm system sucks.

 

The end.

[Banedon]

Weird, so ESPN took a correct article and changed that one name to be incorrect?

 

Or BP had it wrong in the first place, ESPN printed the article, then BP fixed their version.

 

Yeah, that makes more sense.

[Guest]

Why the Cubs can't get Halladay

 

by erik316wttn:

 

Their farm system sucks.

 

The end.

 

How Not To Run A Major League Baseball Team by Jim Hendry

[TruffleShuffle]

Why the Cubs can't get Halladay

 

by erik316wttn:

 

Their farm system sucks.

 

The end.

 

well that's wrong. i mean, if they offered something like vitters, marshall, jay jax and h-j lee, i'm fairly certain the jays would accept it.

[SweetZombieJesus]

 

well that's wrong. i mean, if they offered something like vitters, marshall, jay jax and h-j lee, i'm fairly certain the jays would accept it.

 

why would they want our crappy players. Vitters is a harveyesque bust. Jay Jax is nothing more than a 3 on a bad AAA team, H-J Lee couldn't start in the KBL and Marshall is worthless.

[erik316wttn]

Why the Cubs can't get Halladay

 

by erik316wttn:

 

Their farm system sucks.

 

The end.

 

How Not To Run A Major League Baseball Team by Jim Hendry

 

That too

[RedFlash]

 

well that's wrong. i mean, if they offered something like vitters, marshall, jay jax and h-j lee, i'm fairly certain the jays would accept it.

 

why would they want our crappy players. Vitters is a harveyesque bust. Jay Jax is nothing more than a 3 on a bad AAA team, H-J Lee couldn't start in the KBL and Marshall is worthless.

 

You forgot the green font, dude.

 

Besides, the biggest and most legitimate reason why the Cubs won't get Halladay is purely financial.

[Three Finger]

Why would the Cubs even think about pursuing Halladay? We are a team full of holes, but the starting rotation is not one of them. If you're going to deal big money and prospects for someone at the trade deadline, it ought to be someone who can help turn the offense around.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

The Cubs drafted pretty poorly for a while, but they also had a 3 year span where they were missed a 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th round pick. Considering that the best chance at having a useful commodity comes from the first few rounds, the Cubs going through a stretch where they missed that many early picks is worth noting.

 

PS I have no idea if this was mentioned in the article or not.

[wabash_cannonball]

We don't need Halladay, he offers nothing we don't already have.

[Cubbie Swagger]

Why don't we get Halladay? Seems like that's a no-brainer.

 

First of all, we can't afford him. Second of all, we don't need him. We don't even have money to spend on what we need, let alone what we don't need. Not to mention, we don't have the prospects to give up.

[CyHawk_Cub]

Why don't we get Halladay? Seems like that's a no-brainer.

 

First of all, we can't afford him. Second of all, we don't need him. We don't even have money to spend on what we need, let alone what we don't need. Not to mention, we don't have the prospects to give up.

 

So you're saying there's a chance? [Lloyd Christmas voice]

[jersey cubs fan]

The Cubs drafted pretty poorly for a while, but they also had a 3 year span where they were missed a 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th round pick. Considering that the best chance at having a useful commodity comes from the first few rounds, the Cubs going through a stretch where they missed that many early picks is worth noting.

 

PS I have no idea if this was mentioned in the article or not.

 

Well it's not like somebody came and stole picks from them. When you hand multi year deals to Typa A free agents that are middle relievers (Latroy Hawkins) and thus lose a draft pick, that's your own damn fault.

 

Also, it mentions the Colvin/Samardzija draft when they were missing the 2-4, and basically stated how crappy it was to waste that 1st on Colvin and then grossly overpay for Samardzija.

[CyHawk_Cub]

The Cubs drafted pretty poorly for a while, but they also had a 3 year span where they were missed a 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th round pick. Considering that the best chance at having a useful commodity comes from the first few rounds, the Cubs going through a stretch where they missed that many early picks is worth noting.

 

PS I have no idea if this was mentioned in the article or not.

 

Well it's not like somebody came and stole picks from them. When you hand multi year deals to Typa A free agents that are middle relievers (Latroy Hawkins) and thus lose a draft pick, that's your own damn fault.

 

Also, it mentions the Colvin/Samardzija draft when they were missing the 2-4, and basically stated how crappy it was to waste that 1st on Colvin and then grossly overpay for Samardzija.

 

Yeah, I was scratching my head after that draft, and I know I wasn't alone

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Well it's not like somebody came and stole picks from them. When you hand multi year deals to Typa A free agents that are middle relievers (Latroy Hawkins) and thus lose a draft pick, that's your own damn fault.

 

It's shifting blame. Is it the Cubs drafting poorly? Or not developing well drafted talent? Or not having the picks? They're not mutually exclusive, but they're separate problems.