The second base market

[inari]

If there's a position we can upgrade, it's this one. The question is; where do we look? Are there any rumors out there?

 

Some names that could be thrown around are Dan Uggla, Freddy Sanchez, Mark Teahen, and Felipe Lopez. There's more as well, but those really come to mind.

[Butterscup1679666578]

I'm still holding my breath that the Pirates will want to trade with us again and give us Freddy Sanchez.

[Backtobanks]

If there's a position we can upgrade, it's this one. The question is; where do we look? Are there any rumors out there?

 

Some names that could be thrown around are Dan Uggla, Freddy Sanchez, Mark Teahen, and Felipe Lopez. There's more as well, but those really come to mind.

 

The problem is that I think Hendry and Lou will be satisfied with a Fontenot/Baker platoon. On paper, it looks great. Then again, on paper the Cubs would be leading the NL Central by 25 games. Also, I'd love to get Sanchez, but nobody seems to be sure of the situation with money.

[Cubbie Swagger]

Ray Durham is still unemployed.

[Clem Fandango]

Chone Figgins, please. Not sure the Angels are shopping him though. He hits for good average, can draw a good amount of walks (40 this year already), and he can play practically any position if need be. He'd be a great lead off replacement for Soriano, someone who can actually get on base would be pretty nice to have at that location

[Backtobanks]

Chone Figgins, please. Not sure the Angels are shopping him though. He hits for good average, can draw a good amount of walks (40 this year already), and he can play practically any position if need be. He'd be a great lead off replacement for Soriano, someone who can actually get on base would be pretty nice to have at that location

 

Figgins would be great for our roster which is filled with players who play multiple positions. I posted before that only Lee, ARam, and Soto are 1-position players.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Ray Durham is still unemployed.

 

But wed need to get to him quick, like a few weeks ago. After 9 months of doing whatever hes been doing, he'll need at least a few weeks to get back into shape and conditioned.

[Old Style]

IAN KINSLER!

[E.J.]

How about get Yunel Escobar for SS and move Riot to 2b?

 

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/07/braves-rumors-vazquez-escobar.html

[dew1679666265]

How about get Yunel Escobar for SS and move Riot to 2b?

 

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/07/braves-rumors-vazquez-escobar.html

 

As much as I'd love to have Yunel Escobar, he's not expensive contract-wise so I can't imagine they'd give him up for just prospects.

 

We'll have to come up with some kind of a legit ML bat to give them and we're not exactly overflowing with them.

[Little Slide Rooter]

I wonder if the Dodgers, who are looking for starting pitching would do Rich Harden and Mike Fontenot for Orlando Hudson.

[dew1679666265]

I wonder if the Dodgers, who are looking for starting pitching would do Rich Harden and Mike Fontenot for Orlando Hudson.

 

A second baseman having a great year for a starter having a mediocre year and a second baseman who has been awful? I doubt it.

 

Harden has the potential to be great - we saw it last season. But his value at the deadline isn't going to be based on what he could do, it'll be based on what he is doing. And he's not been very good this year.

[MADD_DOG_31]

how about trying Soriano at 2nd for a while and put fox in Left....keeps both bats in the lineup and if Sori can just be ok defensively it would make our lineup great when Aramis gets back

[Positive Polly]

Hanley. Move Theriot to 2nd.

 

*dreams*

[Guest]

I wonder if the Dodgers, who are looking for starting pitching would do Rich Harden and Mike Fontenot for Orlando Hudson.

 

A second baseman having a great year for a starter having a mediocre year and a second baseman who has been awful? I doubt it.

 

Harden has the potential to be great - we saw it last season. But his value at the deadline isn't going to be based on what he could do, it'll be based on what he is doing. And he's not been very good this year.

 

Hudson had a great start to the year. He's stunk for the last month and a half.

 

Through May 13: .348/.429/.539/.968 in 163 PA's

Since: .243/.296/.322/.618 in 199 PA's

 

Of course, he's still likely to be better than Fontenot (Hudson's never had a sub .700 OPS).

[Backtobanks]

How about get Yunel Escobar for SS and move Riot to 2b?

 

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/07/braves-rumors-vazquez-escobar.html

 

As much as I'd love to have Yunel Escobar, he's not expensive contract-wise so I can't imagine they'd give him up for just prospects.

 

We'll have to come up with some kind of a legit ML bat to give them and we're not exactly overflowing with them.

 

Three-Team Trade Alert

 

How about sending the prospects to Oakland, Holliday goes to the Braves, Escobar comes to the Cubs. I'm not sure of what Oakland might want, but Hoff or Fox, Blanco, and some pitching might start the conversation. We might have to throw a prospect to the Braves too.

[dew1679666265]

I wonder if the Dodgers, who are looking for starting pitching would do Rich Harden and Mike Fontenot for Orlando Hudson.

 

A second baseman having a great year for a starter having a mediocre year and a second baseman who has been awful? I doubt it.

 

Harden has the potential to be great - we saw it last season. But his value at the deadline isn't going to be based on what he could do, it'll be based on what he is doing. And he's not been very good this year.

 

Hudson had a great start to the year. He's stunk for the last month and a half.

 

Through May 13: .348/.429/.539/.968 in 163 PA's

Since: .243/.296/.322/.618 in 199 PA's

 

Of course, he's still likely to be better than Fontenot (Hudson's never had a sub .700 OPS).

 

Hm, didn't realize how bad he'd been recently. I wonder if it has anything to do with Manny not being in the lineup? Or just natural regression.

[dew1679666265]

How about get Yunel Escobar for SS and move Riot to 2b?

 

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/07/braves-rumors-vazquez-escobar.html

 

As much as I'd love to have Yunel Escobar, he's not expensive contract-wise so I can't imagine they'd give him up for just prospects.

 

We'll have to come up with some kind of a legit ML bat to give them and we're not exactly overflowing with them.

 

Three-Team Trade Alert

 

How about sending the prospects to Oakland, Holliday goes to the Braves, Escobar comes to the Cubs. I'm not sure of what Oakland might want, but Hoff or Fox, Blanco, and some pitching might start the conversation. We might have to throw a prospect to the Braves too.

 

I doubt they'd have much interest in Blanco. If he was hitting at all they might, but they won't be very interested in a .560ish OPS. I also don't know if Hoff is slugging well enough to make up for his sub .300 OBP to make him valuable in a trade.

 

The general idea might have something to it, though.

[Guest]

I wonder if the Dodgers, who are looking for starting pitching would do Rich Harden and Mike Fontenot for Orlando Hudson.

 

A second baseman having a great year for a starter having a mediocre year and a second baseman who has been awful? I doubt it.

 

Harden has the potential to be great - we saw it last season. But his value at the deadline isn't going to be based on what he could do, it'll be based on what he is doing. And he's not been very good this year.

 

Hudson had a great start to the year. He's stunk for the last month and a half.

 

Through May 13: .348/.429/.539/.968 in 163 PA's

Since: .243/.296/.322/.618 in 199 PA's

 

Of course, he's still likely to be better than Fontenot (Hudson's never had a sub .700 OPS).

 

Hm, didn't realize how bad he'd been recently. I wonder if it has anything to do with Manny not being in the lineup? Or just natural regression.

 

I'm guessing natural regression. He's right around what his normal career numbers were coming into the year:

 

2009: .289/.357/.418/.775

Career: .283/.347/.431/.778

 

He had posted three straight .800 OPS seasons from 06-08 so he's down a bit from that but those were .809 and two at .817.

[dew1679666265]

I'm guessing natural regression. He's right around what his normal career numbers were coming into the year:

 

2009: .289/.357/.418/.775

Career: .283/.347/.431/.778

 

He had posted three straight .800 OPS seasons from 06-08 so he's down a bit from that but those were .809 and two at .817.

 

Yeah, you're probably right.

 

It'll be interesting to see how he does with Manny batting behind him again, though.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Freddy Sanchez would be ideal. According to Kaplan, the sale will be offiical at the end of August, but can Ricketts still give hendry the go ahead before the sales official?

[SweetZombieJesus]

Freddy Sanchez would be ideal. According to Kaplan, the sale will be offiical at the end of August, but can Ricketts still give hendry the go ahead before the sales official?

 

No, what would be ideal would be a real shortstop and move Theriot to short or make him into a Chone Figgins type utility player.

[Roast]

Freddy Sanchez would be ideal. According to Kaplan, the sale will be offiical at the end of August, but can Ricketts still give hendry the go ahead before the sales official?

 

No, what would be ideal would be a real shortstop and move Theriot to short or make him into a Chone Figgins type utility player.

Except there's no way in hell theriot could play third. He's not even good at short. And his arm in the outfield would be Jacque Jones-esque.

[Little Slide Rooter]

The Giants are rumored to have serious interest in Freddy Sanchez, and if that is the case, they have a lot more to offer than we do in terms of players and probably money.

 

With Ramirez back tommorow, if he truely can be the savior, we have roughly 3 weeks to decide what to do. If he can truely be that spark to the offense in the heart of the order, then a Fontenot/Baker platoon would be perfectly adequate for the 8 spot in the lineup and we should try to get the best reliever we can.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Except there's no way in hell theriot could play third. He's not even good at short. And his arm in the outfield would be Jacque Jones-esque.

 

You'd need to train the pitcher to play cut-off man to get the throw to first.