Holler @ you later, Kevin Gregg

[Shilzzz]

I need to go take some more pills, there's no question.

[TruffleShuffle]

who should close? marmol and his tremendous walk an inning?

 

everyone down there sucks ass except guzman, apparently.

[Shilzzz]

it was more of a joke on ron santo, but i'll take a 7-8-9 of ascanio, marmol, guzman.

[abuck1220]

throwing waist high fastballs to that hack is really not a good idea.

[17 Seconds]

does it really matter at this point? we're not winning anything with this bullpen. it doesn't matter who closes. we have one single good reliever.

[OleMissCub]

the dummies in our pen actually WALK Frenchie and then throw him the only pitch that he can actually hit.

[TruffleShuffle]

it was more of a joke on ron santo, but i'll take a 7-8-9 of ascanio, marmol, guzman.

 

ascanio isn't that good, marmol has been bad this year, guzman is pretty inexperienced and probably will get hurt next week (just playing the odds on that last one).

 

there's just not much to work with down there. you can mix and match turds all you want, but at the end of the day they're still just a bunch of turds in a row.

[17 Seconds]

I seriously can't believe he threw Franceour that pitch in that situation. Absolutely pathetic

[Little Slide Rooter]

Is it out of the question to keep Marshall in the rotation and try Wells in the pen? He was pretty solid there last season before he got hurt.

[Soonernation]

I seriously can't believe he threw Franceour that pitch in that situation. Absolutely pathetic

 

 

I agree; you have the 8 hole that can't hit the ball out of the infield on deck and you groove one to Francoeur; unreal

[OleMissCub]

Is it out of the question to keep Marshall in the rotation and try Wells in the pen? He was pretty solid there last season before he got hurt.

 

The way Wells is pitching I think that'd be kinda foolish.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Is it out of the question to keep Marshall in the rotation and try Wells in the pen? He was pretty solid there last season before he got hurt.

 

The way Wells is pitching I think that'd be kinda foolish.

 

We already have a solid rotaion. With Marshall in the pen, hes probably a loogy. Wells could be a solid 2 inning guy, which is what we need more than another starter at this point.

[chasinf5s]

This is 2004 all over again, a shaky bullpen with a really bad closer

 

LOU --- NEVER TRUST ANYONE WITH 2 FIRST NAMES

[Guest]

Is it out of the question to keep Marshall in the rotation and try Wells in the pen? He was pretty solid there last season before he got hurt.

 

Wells threw like 4 innings last year. Not a big sample.

[YearofDaCubs]

I don't know who is worse Gregg, or Heilman.

[Three Finger]

This is 2004 all over again, a shaky bullpen with a really bad closer

 

LOU --- NEVER TRUST ANYONE WITH 2 FIRST NAMES

 

The difference being that in 2004 we won 89 games. This years team has "ten games below .500" written all over it.

[17 Seconds]

yeah, the 2004 team was way better than this "team"

[MADD_DOG_31]

Yes, the pitch was in a terrible location, but if you give major league teams extra outs it burns you more often than not

 

Soto has to block that pitch 100 times out of 100, he got lazy on it plain and simple....If he blocks it, we win

 

Never mind Marmol and his idiocy in the 8th and Theriot starting the 8th with a routine throw in the dirt.....the pitch was bad, but Kevin Gregg did not cost us this game

[fivepercent]

Yes, the pitch was in a terrible location, but if you give major league teams extra outs it burns you more often than not

 

Soto has to block that pitch 100 times out of 100, he got lazy on it plain and simple....If he blocks it, we win

 

Never mind Marmol and his idiocy in the 8th and Theriot starting the 8th with a routine throw in the dirt.....the pitch was bad, but Kevin Gregg did not cost us this game

 

This game was just 1 of 3 that Gregg has crapped on already this year. When you factor in that he throws a minimum of 25 pitches per appearance because he gets behind in the count to everyone, it makes him very hard to like or even watch.

[MADD_DOG_31]

Yes, the pitch was in a terrible location, but if you give major league teams extra outs it burns you more often than not

 

Soto has to block that pitch 100 times out of 100, he got lazy on it plain and simple....If he blocks it, we win

 

Never mind Marmol and his idiocy in the 8th and Theriot starting the 8th with a routine throw in the dirt.....the pitch was bad, but Kevin Gregg did not cost us this game

 

This game was just 1 of 3 that Gregg has crapped on already this year. When you factor in that he throws a minimum of 25 pitches per appearance because he gets behind in the count to everyone, it makes him very hard to like or even watch.

 

 

Whether you like him or he's hard to watch or whatever, he had to get 4 outs in the 9th because Soto didn't block strike 3 and it cost them 2 runs.....I know blaming the closer is the cool thing to do, but if you blame this loss entirely on Kevin Gregg you don't know much about baseball or didn't watch the game

[chasinf5s]

Yes, the pitch was in a terrible location, but if you give major league teams extra outs it burns you more often than not

 

Soto has to block that pitch 100 times out of 100, he got lazy on it plain and simple....If he blocks it, we win

 

Never mind Marmol and his idiocy in the 8th and Theriot starting the 8th with a routine throw in the dirt.....the pitch was bad, but Kevin Gregg did not cost us this game

 

This game was just 1 of 3 that Gregg has crapped on already this year. When you factor in that he throws a minimum of 25 pitches per appearance because he gets behind in the count to everyone, it makes him very hard to like or even watch.

 

 

Whether you like him or he's hard to watch or whatever, he had to get 4 outs in the 9th because Soto didn't block strike 3 and it cost them 2 runs.....I know blaming the closer is the cool thing to do, but if you blame this loss entirely on Kevin Gregg you don't know much about baseball or didn't watch the game

 

You win the game as a team and you lose the game as a team however some players are more to blame like Gregg. He had to get a hitter out who swings at EVERYTHING, the guy has a .275 OBP, you didnt really have to get close and could have rung him up

 

Its not like he was facing Pujouls or Braun etc, he was facing the white version of corey patterson

Edited June 3, 2009 by chasinf5s

[fivepercent]

Yes, the pitch was in a terrible location, but if you give major league teams extra outs it burns you more often than not

 

Soto has to block that pitch 100 times out of 100, he got lazy on it plain and simple....If he blocks it, we win

 

Never mind Marmol and his idiocy in the 8th and Theriot starting the 8th with a routine throw in the dirt.....the pitch was bad, but Kevin Gregg did not cost us this game

 

This game was just 1 of 3 that Gregg has crapped on already this year. When you factor in that he throws a minimum of 25 pitches per appearance because he gets behind in the count to everyone, it makes him very hard to like or even watch.

 

 

Whether you like him or he's hard to watch or whatever, he had to get 4 outs in the 9th because Soto didn't block strike 3 and it cost them 2 runs.....I know blaming the closer is the cool thing to do, but if you blame this loss entirely on Kevin Gregg you don't know much about baseball or didn't watch the game

 

I'm certainly not letting anyone else off the hook or blaming Gregg entirely, but this kind of performance has been more common from him than Soto so far.

[MADD_DOG_31]

Yes, the pitch was in a terrible location, but if you give major league teams extra outs it burns you more often than not

 

Soto has to block that pitch 100 times out of 100, he got lazy on it plain and simple....If he blocks it, we win

 

Never mind Marmol and his idiocy in the 8th and Theriot starting the 8th with a routine throw in the dirt.....the pitch was bad, but Kevin Gregg did not cost us this game

 

This game was just 1 of 3 that Gregg has crapped on already this year. When you factor in that he throws a minimum of 25 pitches per appearance because he gets behind in the count to everyone, it makes him very hard to like or even watch.

 

 

Whether you like him or he's hard to watch or whatever, he had to get 4 outs in the 9th because Soto didn't block strike 3 and it cost them 2 runs.....I know blaming the closer is the cool thing to do, but if you blame this loss entirely on Kevin Gregg you don't know much about baseball or didn't watch the game

 

I'm certainly not letting anyone else off the hook or blaming Gregg entirely, but this kind of performance has been more common from him than Soto so far.

 

Really? I haven't seen anything positive from Soto all year....Gregg and Marmol have both walked way to many guys and pitched terrible at times, but Soto has been nothing short of terrible all year....If someone is getting replaced right now it should be Soto over anyone on the team

[17 Seconds]

Yes, the pitch was in a terrible location, but if you give major league teams extra outs it burns you more often than not

 

Soto has to block that pitch 100 times out of 100, he got lazy on it plain and simple....If he blocks it, we win

 

Never mind Marmol and his idiocy in the 8th and Theriot starting the 8th with a routine throw in the dirt.....the pitch was bad, but Kevin Gregg did not cost us this game

 

umm, when you give up a game tying home run with 2 outs in the 9th to a terrible hitter on literally the only pitch he can handle, then yea, it's your fault as much as anybody's

[17 Seconds]

Yes, the pitch was in a terrible location, but if you give major league teams extra outs it burns you more often than not

 

Soto has to block that pitch 100 times out of 100, he got lazy on it plain and simple....If he blocks it, we win

 

Never mind Marmol and his idiocy in the 8th and Theriot starting the 8th with a routine throw in the dirt.....the pitch was bad, but Kevin Gregg did not cost us this game

 

This game was just 1 of 3 that Gregg has crapped on already this year. When you factor in that he throws a minimum of 25 pitches per appearance because he gets behind in the count to everyone, it makes him very hard to like or even watch.

 

 

Whether you like him or he's hard to watch or whatever, he had to get 4 outs in the 9th because Soto didn't block strike 3 and it cost them 2 runs.....I know blaming the closer is the cool thing to do, but if you blame this loss entirely on Kevin Gregg you don't know much about baseball or didn't watch the game

 

I'm certainly not letting anyone else off the hook or blaming Gregg entirely, but this kind of performance has been more common from him than Soto so far.

 

soto has been miserable on both sides of the plate all season long.