College Basketball 2009-10

[Magnetic Curses]

i always took "chucker" to mean someone who takes lots of jump shots, doesn't make enough of them, and doesn't do much else (rebound, pass, play defense) on the court.

 

that's pretty much exactly it.

[SouthSideRyan]

7th in assist %, 10th in 2pt %, 14th in 3pt% 50th in 3ptA/FGA.

 

Another Derwood fail.

[hawkeyecub]

Demetri's played really dumb basketball today.

 

He's also a huge vagina. Lay down on the floor to get a whistle and immediately when they blow it he gets up and walks around perfectly fine and stays in the game. If you have to draw an injury whistle you should have to come out of the game.

 

Whatever, credit to Illini fans for showing up and taking away any homecourt advantage. Now I know what it feels like to be a Minnesota or Northwestern football fan. But damn that was the most annoying game I've ever attended. At least I can take solace in the fact that Illinois is a basketball school that will have gone 5 years without winning a tournament game. And you have a football coach who can't do anything but recruit and he's not even good at that anymore.

 

iowa hasn't had a player like mccamey in 20 years. irrelevant programs don't have players like him.

 

He's good but he's also a vagina. Woolridge was better. Dean Oliver was close. Tyler Smith was more talented.

 

The problem you're missing is that Illinois is a basketball school. A basketball school with a basketball team that's been irrelevant for almost 5 years now. You're looking at 5-6 years without winning an NCAA game. And your football program is being led by a guy who is a punchline nationally and can't even recruit anymore.

[SouthSideRyan]

Demetri's played really dumb basketball today.

 

He's also a huge vagina. Lay down on the floor to get a whistle and immediately when they blow it he gets up and walks around perfectly fine and stays in the game. If you have to draw an injury whistle you should have to come out of the game.

 

Whatever, credit to Illini fans for showing up and taking away any homecourt advantage. Now I know what it feels like to be a Minnesota or Northwestern football fan. But damn that was the most annoying game I've ever attended. At least I can take solace in the fact that Illinois is a basketball school that will have gone 5 years without winning a tournament game. And you have a football coach who can't do anything but recruit and he's not even good at that anymore.

 

iowa hasn't had a player like mccamey in 20 years. irrelevant programs don't have players like him.

 

He's good but he's also a vagina. Woolridge was better. Dean Oliver was close. Tyler Smith was more talented.

 

The problem you're missing is that Illinois is a basketball school. A basketball school with a basketball team that's been irrelevant for almost 5 years now. You're looking at 5-6 years without winning an NCAA game. And your football program is being led by a guy who is a punchline nationally and can't even recruit anymore.

 

This has been a rough couple of weeks huh? Love that you're claiming Tyler Smith as your own now that he's abandoned Iowa basketball and gone to bigger and better things at a Tennessee courthouse.

 

Dean Oliver??? If DMac has the professional career of Dean Oliver, that means he died on the court at some point next season. Although, I enjoyed this from his wikipedia:

 

Dean Oliver Now's Plays In The NetherLens.

 

Illinois is now on a 5 game winning streak against Iowa in football/basketball games. (Yeah our national joke beat Iowa's powerhouse program last time they played in football) At least you've got John Lickliter to lead you for the next 2 years,

 

Payne for 3!!!

[Magnetic Curses]

Demetri's played really dumb basketball today.

 

He's also a huge vagina. Lay down on the floor to get a whistle and immediately when they blow it he gets up and walks around perfectly fine and stays in the game. If you have to draw an injury whistle you should have to come out of the game.

 

Whatever, credit to Illini fans for showing up and taking away any homecourt advantage. Now I know what it feels like to be a Minnesota or Northwestern football fan. But damn that was the most annoying game I've ever attended. At least I can take solace in the fact that Illinois is a basketball school that will have gone 5 years without winning a tournament game. And you have a football coach who can't do anything but recruit and he's not even good at that anymore.

 

iowa hasn't had a player like mccamey in 20 years. irrelevant programs don't have players like him.

 

He's good but he's also a vagina. Woolridge was better. Dean Oliver was close. Tyler Smith was more talented.

 

The problem you're missing is that Illinois is a basketball school. A basketball school with a basketball team that's been irrelevant for almost 5 years now. You're looking at 5-6 years without winning an NCAA game. And your football program is being led by a guy who is a punchline nationally and can't even recruit anymore.

 

almost 5 years now? we haven't won a tourney game in 3 years, going on 4, not "5-6". but i guess it's better than not making the tournament at all and being one of the worst teams in the big ten year-after-year. how far the hawkeyes have fallen from the golden years of tom davis and his 3 straight tournament appearances.

 

andre woolrdige, maybe, dean oliver, bwahaha, tyler smith doesn't play for iowa, or, i guess anyone anymore. any good player the hawkeyes get has something unspeakably terrible happen to the people they love, coincidence?

 

and last time i checked, this was the basketball thread, i'll uh, meet you right over in the football thread if you want. you can go first, chief.

[Magnetic Curses]

[hawkeyecub]

Demetri's played really dumb basketball today.

 

He's also a huge vagina. Lay down on the floor to get a whistle and immediately when they blow it he gets up and walks around perfectly fine and stays in the game. If you have to draw an injury whistle you should have to come out of the game.

 

Whatever, credit to Illini fans for showing up and taking away any homecourt advantage. Now I know what it feels like to be a Minnesota or Northwestern football fan. But damn that was the most annoying game I've ever attended. At least I can take solace in the fact that Illinois is a basketball school that will have gone 5 years without winning a tournament game. And you have a football coach who can't do anything but recruit and he's not even good at that anymore.

 

iowa hasn't had a player like mccamey in 20 years. irrelevant programs don't have players like him.

 

He's good but he's also a vagina. Woolridge was better. Dean Oliver was close. Tyler Smith was more talented.

 

The problem you're missing is that Illinois is a basketball school. A basketball school with a basketball team that's been irrelevant for almost 5 years now. You're looking at 5-6 years without winning an NCAA game. And your football program is being led by a guy who is a punchline nationally and can't even recruit anymore.

 

almost 5 years now? we haven't won a tourney game in 3 years, going on 4, not "5-6". but i guess it's better than not making the tournament at all and being one of the worst teams in the big ten year-after-year. how far the hawkeyes have fallen from the golden years of tom davis and his 3 straight tournament appearances.

 

andre woolrdige, maybe, dean oliver, bwahaha, tyler smith doesn't play for iowa, or, i guess anyone anymore. any good player the hawkeyes get has something unspeakably terrible happen to the people they love, coincidence?

 

and last time i checked, this was the basketball thread, i'll uh, meet you right over in the football thread if you want. you can go first, chief.

 

1) Correct I was off by one year. This will likely be the 4th straight year without an NCAA win and by next March it will have been 5 calendar years.

 

2) You said they haven't had a player of McCamey's level in 20 years. They've had several, more than I even listed.

 

3) Yes it is the basketball thread. You like to talk about how Iowa is irrelevant so I pointed out that Illinois has been irrelevant also. Which is more embarrassing when you're a "basketball school".

[Magnetic Curses]

 

1) Correct I was off by one year. This will likely be the 4th straight year without an NCAA win and by next March it will have been 5 calendar years.

 

2) You said they haven't had a player of McCamey's level in 20 years. They've had several, more than I even listed.

 

3) Yes it is the basketball thread. You like to talk about how Iowa is irrelevant so I pointed out that Illinois has been irrelevant also. Which is more embarrassing when you're a "basketball school".

 

1. so you were wrong, eh? of course you were.

 

2. hardly, now that i think about it, woolridge isn't nearly in mccamey's league. mccamey is a big guard that will play in the nba after being drafted by a nba team. and illinois has had several players on one team that were better than mccamey. dean oliver? lmfao, nope. tyler smith quickly realized that he played for iowa and to avoid embarassment, transferred to a school with even less basketball tradition than iowa.

 

3. i never called illinois a "basketball school", although they probably should abandon the illusion of a football program. by the way, who won the last football game? who last played in the rose bowl? won an outright conference championship?

[hawkeyecub]

Demetri's played really dumb basketball today.

 

He's also a huge vagina. Lay down on the floor to get a whistle and immediately when they blow it he gets up and walks around perfectly fine and stays in the game. If you have to draw an injury whistle you should have to come out of the game.

 

Whatever, credit to Illini fans for showing up and taking away any homecourt advantage. Now I know what it feels like to be a Minnesota or Northwestern football fan. But damn that was the most annoying game I've ever attended. At least I can take solace in the fact that Illinois is a basketball school that will have gone 5 years without winning a tournament game. And you have a football coach who can't do anything but recruit and he's not even good at that anymore.

 

iowa hasn't had a player like mccamey in 20 years. irrelevant programs don't have players like him.

 

He's good but he's also a vagina. Woolridge was better. Dean Oliver was close. Tyler Smith was more talented.

 

The problem you're missing is that Illinois is a basketball school. A basketball school with a basketball team that's been irrelevant for almost 5 years now. You're looking at 5-6 years without winning an NCAA game. And your football program is being led by a guy who is a punchline nationally and can't even recruit anymore.

 

This has been a rough couple of weeks huh? Love that you're claiming Tyler Smith as your own now that he's abandoned Iowa basketball and gone to bigger and better things at a Tennessee courthouse.

 

Dean Oliver??? If DMac has the professional career of Dean Oliver, that means he died on the court at some point next season. Although, I enjoyed this from his wikipedia:

 

Dean Oliver Now's Plays In The NetherLens.

 

Illinois is now on a 5 game winning streak against Iowa in football/basketball games. (Yeah our national joke beat Iowa's powerhouse program last time they played in football) At least you've got John Lickliter to lead you for the next 2 years,

 

Payne for 3!!!

 

McCamey is maybe the 3rd best PG (I would put him 4) in the league and not even a top 10 player in the Big Ten. Oliver was a very similar college player. Look at the numbers. I don't know why you guys think he's so good. McCamey probably will have a pro career where he bounces around overseas.

[Magnetic Curses]

reaching, time to hit the panic button!

[cubsfan]

Who cares? Does it really matter when you're arguing about the 7th and 9th best teams in the Big Ten? It's not like either will come close to making the tourney. Edited February 4, 2010 by cubsfan

[hawkeyecub]

 

1) Correct I was off by one year. This will likely be the 4th straight year without an NCAA win and by next March it will have been 5 calendar years.

 

2) You said they haven't had a player of McCamey's level in 20 years. They've had several, more than I even listed.

 

3) Yes it is the basketball thread. You like to talk about how Iowa is irrelevant so I pointed out that Illinois has been irrelevant also. Which is more embarrassing when you're a "basketball school".

 

1. so you were wrong, eh? of course you were.

 

2. hardly, now that i think about it, woolridge isn't nearly in mccamey's league. mccamey is a big guard that will play in the nba after being drafted by a nba team. and illinois has had several players on one team that were better than mccamey. dean oliver? lmfao, nope. tyler smith quickly realized that he played for iowa and to avoid embarassment, transferred to a school with even less basketball tradition than iowa.

 

3. i never called illinois a "basketball school", although they probably should abandon the illusion of a football program. by the way, who won the last football game? who last played in the rose bowl? won an outright conference championship?

 

LOL. Woolridge wasn't in McCamey's league? He led the league in scoring and assists. His tempo free numbers were also better than McCamey's despite not having the supporting cast. Objectively he ranks better. He was 1st team All Big Ten in a strong league and runner-up for POY. Mac won't sniff that. He carried a bad team to a 2nd place finish. Mac won't do that either. Oh and Woolridge wasn't a total idiot or vag either. Nice halfcourt lob pass off the backboard last night. Less than a minute left, my team up 3 with a fresh shot clock, I'll heave it off the backboard and out of bounds. Intelligence.

 

Honestly why do you guys think he's so good? Lucas, Battle and Hughes are all better. He's not top 10 in the league.

[hawkeyecub]

By the way Draft Express doesn't have McCamey being drafted in '10 or '11.

[Magnetic Curses]

are we talking about the andre woolridge that plays ball in a 3rd-world country because nobody wanted him?

 

yeah, the only point guard on your list that has an argument is kalin lucas, and mccamey is stronger and a better passer. he even averages like .2 steals less a game than chris kramer.

 

oh, make no mistake, mccamey is one of the top 2 point guards in the league and a top 5 player.

[Magnetic Curses]

By the way Draft Express doesn't have McCamey being drafted in '10 or '11.

 

they also have dunigan and mike davis being drafted.

[Magnetic Curses]

it must be hard being a basketball fan and also a hawkeye, damn hard. i feel for you, and i agree with your rant. your teams suck.

[Magnetic Curses]

Who cares? Does it really matter when you're arguing about the 7th and 9th best teams in the Big Ten? It's not like either will come close to making the tourney.

 

get out of the way, spaz.

[illiniguy]

McCamey is maybe the 3rd best PG (I would put him 4) in the league and not even a top 10 player in the Big Ten. Oliver was a very similar college player. Look at the numbers. I don't know why you guys think he's so good. McCamey probably will have a pro career where he bounces around overseas.

McCamey is the 2nd best point guard in the conference. Name some better. Keep in mind Talor Battle is a 2and the frosh plays poitn guard for them.

[illiniguy]

are we talking about the andre woolridge that plays ball in a 3rd-world country because nobody wanted him?

 

yeah, the only point guard on your list that has an argument is kalin lucas, and mccamey is stronger and a better passer. he even averages like .2 steals less a game than chris kramer.

 

oh, make no mistake, mccamey is one of the top 2 point guards in the league and a top 5 player.

Jeff Horner was better than Dwill as well. It's the same crap with Iowa fans over and over again.

[illiniguy]

Who cares? Does it really matter when you're arguing about the 7th and 9th best teams in the Big Ten? It's not like either will come close to making the tourney.

As of today Illinois is tied for 2nd in the conference.

[SouthSideRyan]

By the way Draft Express doesn't have McCamey being drafted in '10 or '11.

 

Can we please bet on whether Demetri gets drafted?

 

Please?

[illiniguy]

By the way Draft Express doesn't have McCamey being drafted in '10 or '11.

 

Can we please bet on whether Demetri gets drafted?

 

Please?

No way dude draft net says he won't. Sure Draft Net is awful, but I think they got this one right. :grin:

[Magnetic Curses]

By the way Draft Express doesn't have McCamey being drafted in '10 or '11.

 

Can we please bet on whether Demetri gets drafted?

 

Please?

 

i think the only question is which year.

 

good passer, good shooter, fast/quick, high dribbler, strong, athletic, and big. that's pretty much the total package in terms of the nba.

[illiniguy]

By the way Draft Express doesn't have McCamey being drafted in '10 or '11.

 

Can we please bet on whether Demetri gets drafted?

 

Please?

 

i think the only question is which year.

 

good passer, good shooter, fast/quick, high dribbler, strong, athletic, and big. that's pretty much the total package in terms of the nba.

And how high he can play himself into. I wish we played in a faster pace so he could showcase himself a bit more for the NBA. I really think he's as good a player as Frank Williams was and that hurts me a ton to say as I love Frankie.

[SouthSideRyan]

By the way Draft Express doesn't have McCamey being drafted in '10 or '11.

 

Can we please bet on whether Demetri gets drafted?

 

Please?

 

i think the only question is which year.

 

good passer, good shooter, fast/quick, high dribbler, strong, athletic, and big. that's pretty much the total package in terms of the nba.

 

I think he comes back next year, cause he's got potential for 'BTPOY/Lottery pick in '11. Right now, I think he's fringe 1st round/early 2nd. Also, I can't handle to watch that much Jeff Jordan next year, so please DMac, for me.