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Pat and Ron saying it didn't look like an arm injury, they are pretty sure it was a leg injury of some kind. I'm not watching it on TV though, so I don't know what they're saying.
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It really is amazing how fragile baseball players seem to be, especially for a non-contact sport. Football players are out there with casts on their arms and 18 braces on every joint and destroying eachother every week, but baseball players tweak an ankle and they just can't play.
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It really is amazing how fragile baseball players seem to be, especially for a non-contact sport. Football players are out there with casts on their arms and 18 braces on every joint and destroying eachother every week, but baseball players tweak an ankle and they just can't play.

 

Well a pitcher does require a lot of body parts working in motion in order to throw 95 miles an hour with pinpoint control. If one piece isn't working, it can mess up everything else.

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It really is amazing how fragile baseball players seem to be, especially for a non-contact sport. Football players are out there with casts on their arms and 18 braces on every joint and destroying eachother every week, but baseball players tweak an ankle and they just can't play.

 

Well a pitcher does require a lot of body parts working in motion in order to throw 95 miles an hour with pinpoint control. If one piece isn't working, it can mess up everything else.

 

same goes for a quarterback, but they play hurt. They also get pulverized by 280 lb. monsters every Sunday.

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It really is amazing how fragile baseball players seem to be, especially for a non-contact sport. Football players are out there with casts on their arms and 18 braces on every joint and destroying eachother every week, but baseball players tweak an ankle and they just can't play.

 

Well a pitcher does require a lot of body parts working in motion in order to throw 95 miles an hour with pinpoint control. If one piece isn't working, it can mess up everything else.

 

same goes for a quarterback, but they play hurt. They also get pulverized by 280 lb. monsters every Sunday.

 

You can throw a football without the same zip and pull it off by changing the gameplan. A 95 MPH pitcher cannot survive throwing 78 MPH because he can't get a full leg kick to get full power on his pitches.

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Well look at how many games quarterbacks play vs. pitchers. And are quarterbacks really get mashed around out there anymore, if a defensive lineman sends him a sarcastic text message it's like a 15 yard penalty these days.
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It really is amazing how fragile baseball players seem to be, especially for a non-contact sport. Football players are out there with casts on their arms and 18 braces on every joint and destroying eachother every week, but baseball players tweak an ankle and they just can't play.

 

Well a pitcher does require a lot of body parts working in motion in order to throw 95 miles an hour with pinpoint control. If one piece isn't working, it can mess up everything else.

 

same goes for a quarterback, but they play hurt. They also get pulverized by 280 lb. monsters every Sunday.

 

QBs throw 90 miles an hour?

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It really is amazing how fragile baseball players seem to be, especially for a non-contact sport. Football players are out there with casts on their arms and 18 braces on every joint and destroying eachother every week, but baseball players tweak an ankle and they just can't play.

 

Well a pitcher does require a lot of body parts working in motion in order to throw 95 miles an hour with pinpoint control. If one piece isn't working, it can mess up everything else.

 

same goes for a quarterback, but they play hurt. They also get pulverized by 280 lb. monsters every Sunday.

 

QBs throw 90 miles an hour?

 

I bet they could come close when throwing a baseball. Just because throwing a football wouldn't register 90mph doesn't mean they aren't throwing with the same explosiveness a pitcher does.

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It really is amazing how fragile baseball players seem to be, especially for a non-contact sport. Football players are out there with casts on their arms and 18 braces on every joint and destroying eachother every week, but baseball players tweak an ankle and they just can't play.

 

Well a pitcher does require a lot of body parts working in motion in order to throw 95 miles an hour with pinpoint control. If one piece isn't working, it can mess up everything else.

 

same goes for a quarterback, but they play hurt. They also get pulverized by 280 lb. monsters every Sunday.

baseball players play 162 games, football...not so many.
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It really is amazing how fragile baseball players seem to be, especially for a non-contact sport. Football players are out there with casts on their arms and 18 braces on every joint and destroying eachother every week, but baseball players tweak an ankle and they just can't play.

 

Well a pitcher does require a lot of body parts working in motion in order to throw 95 miles an hour with pinpoint control. If one piece isn't working, it can mess up everything else.

 

same goes for a quarterback, but they play hurt. They also get pulverized by 280 lb. monsters every Sunday.

 

QBs throw 90 miles an hour?

 

I bet they could come close when throwing a baseball. Just because throwing a football wouldn't register 90mph doesn't mean they aren't throwing with the same explosiveness a pitcher does.

 

Man, I don't know. Most pitchers throw with so much effort on each pitch. I just don't see the same with QBs (except maybe Favre a few times a game). But the differences aren't really close. QBs get hit, yes, but they're playing once a week for 16-20 weeks. And they throw what, 25 passes on average (really a guess)? And yes, they throw warm-ups, but they aren't nearly the same velocity.

 

Pitchers throw 90+ pitches every 5 days for 6 months and that doesn't include warm-up pitches every inning. That's, what, 150+ pitches every 5 days, plus bullpend sessions in the middle. Though not every pitch is 90 mph, the 90 mph fastball isn't even the worst pitch for the arm.

 

And if a QB is hurting, he might be less effective. But the precision required to get ML hitters out is much higher than the precision required to throw a pass that can be caught by a WR everywhere from his toes to 10' off the ground.

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Well look at how many games quarterbacks play vs. pitchers. And are quarterbacks really get mashed around out there anymore, if a defensive lineman sends him a sarcastic text message it's like a 15 yard penalty these days.

 

Haha!

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Does someone really need to explain the difference between baseball players playing with injuries and football players playing with injuries? Just think about it for a few minutes.
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cst_cubs Marmol: mri reveals grade 1 sprain, which is relief to club. Expected to throw in pen Monday, possible midweek return.less than a minute ago from txt

 

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Eww Twitter. The problem with any max effort guy like Marmol. If he's in the game and his knee is bothering him, he's going to try to overcompensate. This will lead to additional stress on his elbow and shoulder - which could lead to more significant injuries unfortunately.
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Man, I don't know. Most pitchers throw with so much effort on each pitch. I just don't see the same with QBs (except maybe Favre a few times a game). But the differences aren't really close. QBs get hit, yes, but they're playing once a week for 16-20 weeks. And they throw what, 25 passes on average (really a guess)? And yes, they throw warm-ups, but they aren't nearly the same velocity.

 

Pitchers throw 90+ pitches every 5 days for 6 months and that doesn't include warm-up pitches every inning. That's, what, 150+ pitches every 5 days, plus bullpend sessions in the middle. Though not every pitch is 90 mph, the 90 mph fastball isn't even the worst pitch for the arm.

 

And if a QB is hurting, he might be less effective. But the precision required to get ML hitters out is much higher than the precision required to throw a pass that can be caught by a WR everywhere from his toes to 10' off the ground.

 

I'm not sure if they could right away, but I'm willing to bet there are some QB's that if you worked with them on mechanics for a couple months, they could be throwing 90 mph.

 

There's a pitcher on UCD's baseball team who is a fifth-year senior and hadn't played baseball since he was a junior in high school and when he did play, he was a catcher. He went to UCD as a water polo player and after his senior season ended in that sport, he decided to try to walk on to the baseball team. He had a couple former UCD players (guys he went to H.S. with) teach him how to throw over about a six week stretch and made the UCD team. He can reach 90 mph on his fastball.

 

Like I said, I doubt that every NFL QB could, but it wouldn't surprise me if some were able to. Of course, they'd probably have to work as relief pitchers at first to build the arm strength up to throw 90-100 pitches.

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Man, I don't know. Most pitchers throw with so much effort on each pitch. I just don't see the same with QBs (except maybe Favre a few times a game). But the differences aren't really close. QBs get hit, yes, but they're playing once a week for 16-20 weeks. And they throw what, 25 passes on average (really a guess)? And yes, they throw warm-ups, but they aren't nearly the same velocity.

 

Pitchers throw 90+ pitches every 5 days for 6 months and that doesn't include warm-up pitches every inning. That's, what, 150+ pitches every 5 days, plus bullpend sessions in the middle. Though not every pitch is 90 mph, the 90 mph fastball isn't even the worst pitch for the arm.

 

And if a QB is hurting, he might be less effective. But the precision required to get ML hitters out is much higher than the precision required to throw a pass that can be caught by a WR everywhere from his toes to 10' off the ground.

 

I'm not sure if they could right away, but I'm willing to bet there are some QB's that if you worked with them on mechanics for a couple months, they could be throwing 90 mph.

 

There's a pitcher on UCD's baseball team who is a fifth-year senior and hadn't played baseball since he was a junior in high school and when he did play, he was a catcher. He went to UCD as a water polo player and after his senior season ended in that sport, he decided to try to walk on to the baseball team. He had a couple former UCD players (guys he went to H.S. with) teach him how to throw over about a six week stretch and made the UCD team. He can reach 90 mph on his fastball.

 

Like I said, I doubt that every NFL QB could, but it wouldn't surprise me if some were able to. Of course, they'd probably have to work as relief pitchers at first to build the arm strength up to throw 90-100 pitches.

 

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. I didn't say a QB couldn't throw a baseball 90 mph. I'm not really sure how that applies here.

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