Cub prospects in the news

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I guess I can't expect them to find any really good players who aren't cheap.

 

I'd settle for them putting together a competent bullpen.

[imb]

I guess I can't expect them to find any really good players who aren't cheap.

 

I'd settle for them putting together a competent bullpen.

 

YOU'RE SO RIGHT. I'd also feel so much better about theo world serious champion Epstein if this 70 win cubs team had a competent bullpen for no reason

[TruffleShuffle]

I'd settle for them putting together a competent bullpen.

 

if they did sign quality free agent relievers and they played well, i'm sure your response would be whereas if they sign scott eyre v2.0 and he sucks, you'll grumble all day long about how relievers are volatile and shouldn't get multi-year deals.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I'd settle for them putting together a competent bullpen.

 

if they did sign quality free agent relievers and they played well, i'm sure your response would be whereas if they sign scott eyre v2.0 and he sucks, you'll grumble all day long about how relievers are volatile and shouldn't get multi-year deals.

 

I'm sure that this is yet another thing that you are wrong about.

 

When Epstein does things I like, I've been extremely complimentary. It's happened a lot lately.

[imb]

You can put together a bullpen in one offseason for nothing who gives a [expletive]

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I guess I can't expect them to find any really good players who aren't cheap.

 

I'd settle for them putting together a competent bullpen.

 

YOU'RE SO RIGHT. I'd also feel so much better about theo world serious champion Epstein if this 70 win cubs team had a competent bullpen for no reason

 

If this team had an average bullpen, we would have been buyers at the deadline.

[TruffleShuffle]

I guess I can't expect them to find any really good players who aren't cheap.

 

I'd settle for them putting together a competent bullpen.

 

YOU'RE SO RIGHT. I'd also feel so much better about theo world serious champion Epstein if this 70 win cubs team had a competent bullpen for no reason

 

If this team had an average bullpen, we would have been buyers at the deadline.

 

we're 17 games out of a playoff spot. how many wins do you think our bullpen has cost us?

 

and frankly i'm glad that the cubs' bullpen blew this year, because i'd rather have the cubs sell off and grab assets like edwards, olt, arrieta, strop, pineyro, etc etc than go balls out and dump prospects in an ill-advised attempt to overtake three teams (pitt, stl, cincy) which are clearly more talented than the cubs' first-half roster.

[imb]

I guess I can't expect them to find any really good players who aren't cheap.

 

I'd settle for them putting together a competent bullpen.

 

YOU'RE SO RIGHT. I'd also feel so much better about theo world serious champion Epstein if this 70 win cubs team had a competent bullpen for no reason

 

If this team had an average bullpen, we would have been buyers at the deadline.

 

What would we have bought? Matt garza????? Scott Feldman!??? Who got moved that would have done any [expletive] good at all and at what cost?

[ctcf]

I guess I can't expect them to find any really good players who aren't cheap.

 

I'd settle for them putting together a competent bullpen.

 

YOU'RE SO RIGHT. I'd also feel so much better about theo world serious champion Epstein if this 70 win cubs team had a competent bullpen for no reason

 

If this team had an average bullpen, we would have been buyers at the deadline.

 

What would we have bought? Matt garza????? Scott Feldman!??? Who got moved that would have done any [expletive] good at all and at what cost?

 

This is fantastic.

[Guest]

If the Cubs were an average bullpen away from competing, we a) should be a lot more pissed about Fujikawa's injury and b) at lot happier with the job the front office is doing. Personally, I think they're an average bullpen and Castro and Rizzo playing up to their ZiPS projections away from being a .500-ish team this year, given how well their other moves have panned out.

[ctcf]

If the Cubs were an average bullpen away from competing, we a) should be a lot more pissed about Fujikawa's injury and b) at lot happier with the job the front office is doing. Personally, I think they're an average bullpen and Castro and Rizzo playing up to their ZiPS projections away from being a .500-ish team this year, given how well their other moves have panned out.

 

This

[TruffleShuffle]

of all things, griping that a better bullpen could have put the cubs within shouting distance of the playoffs is really weird. the cubs added young or young-ish players who are already benefiting the big club, and others who may arrive in the next year or two. the time is soon coming where the cubs aren't going to be able to sell off players like garza and feldman and hairston because they're a realistic chance to win a world series. what's the point of dumping prospects when you might have like a 10 percent chance of squeaking into a one-game playoff, and if you make it through that, then you hopefully can beat three superior teams and win a championship. good luck with all of that.

 

i'm sure the giants are super thrilled about giving up six cost controlled zack wheeler seasons in exchange for two months of carlos beltran and missing the playoffs by 4 games.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

we're 17 games out of a playoff spot. how many wins do you think our bullpen has cost us?

 

In mid-July when the sell-off started, we were down about 7 wins against average on bullpen net WPA, and we were 10-12 out of a playoff spot.

 

The only weird thing is thinking that piling up prospects is better than having a shot to make the playoffs and win the World Series.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

If the Cubs were an average bullpen away from competing, we a) should be a lot more pissed about Fujikawa's injury and b) at lot happier with the job the front office is doing. Personally, I think they're an average bullpen and Castro and Rizzo playing up to their ZiPS projections away from being a .500-ish team this year, given how well their other moves have panned out.

 

 

I *have* been really happy with the way they put together the 2013 team. I thought they did a brilliant job.

[imb]

Well then by all means lets buy ... Who again?

[Hairyducked Idiot]

What would we have bought? Matt garza????? Scott Feldman!??? Who got moved that would have done any [expletive] good at all and at what cost?

 

We already had them, silly.

 

I imagine we would have tried to find an outfielder who could help.

[imb]

Yeah this team was Ernesto frieri from competing for the World Series.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Yeah this team was Ernesto frieri from competing for the World Series.

 

Good thing we didn't have him, then. Because that would be awful. Who wants to compete for the World Series when you can add prospects and buy-low MLBers?

[imb]

No you see I was being sarcastic because your post was idiotic

[TruffleShuffle]

we're 17 games out of a playoff spot. how many wins do you think our bullpen has cost us?

 

In mid-July when the sell-off started, we were down about 7 wins against average on bullpen net WPA, and we were 10-12 out of a playoff spot.

 

The only weird thing is thinking that piling up prospects is better than having a shot to make the playoffs and win the World Series.

 

yeah because being 5 games out of the playoffs in late july with a roster that is pretty clearly inferior to the other national league contenders just screams "go for it!"

[Hairyducked Idiot]

No you see I was being sarcastic because your post was idiotic

 

There have been some idiotic posts on this page. We agree on that much.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

 

yeah because being 5 games out of the playoffs in late july with a roster that is pretty clearly inferior to the other national league contenders just screams "go for it!"

 

 

It does. Anybody who thinks otherwise should feel very badly about themselves.

 

I always love these arguments. I'm saying Epstein is somewhat overrated but did a brilliant job putting together a decent team. Others say Epstein has brilliantly put together a terrible team.

Edited August 17, 2013 by Hairyducked Idiot

[imb]

No you see I was being sarcastic because your post was idiotic

 

There have been some idiotic posts on this page. We agree on that much.

 

Any other baseball things you'd like go be wrong about again or are we on the deflection phase of your flood of stupidity

[TruffleShuffle]

sorry people aren't being too receptive to your arguments. perhaps you'll have better luck on one of the other 20 cubs message boards you ruin.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

sorry people aren't being too receptive to your arguments. perhaps you'll have better luck on one of the other 20 cubs message boards you ruin.

 

I do. But I haven't given up on fixing this one.