Something my co-worker mentioned

[rchap24]

Ok before this trade gets ripped apart let me know what you think.

 

My co-worker is a huge Cubs fan and said he thinks we need to do a blockbuster deal....

so he proposed....

 

Zambrano

for

J. Hamilton

 

Hamilton in the middle of our line-up would be the perfect person to ad, and he's also one of the best CF defensively. Zambrano I love him, but Texas would probably desperately want an Ace for there staff especially a reasonably young one.

 

Now I don't know if this ever could happen. I think though that Zambrano would definitely get talks go for a deal. This also would save us some money that we could put towards Dempster and other FA's (why haven't we talked about signing Burnett by the way?)

[Guest]

I don't see why Texas would do that.

[rchap24]

I don't see why Texas would do that.

 

Really the team with probably the worst pitching in baseball wouldn't even think about trading for one of the best pitchers in baseball? You don't think Pie and Zambrano could even get a discussion about it?

[Little Slide Rooter]

I don't see why Texas would do that.

 

Because Hamilton is injury prone and Zambrano is an ace caliber pitcher, which they sorely need.

[KingCubsFan]

I don't see why Texas would do that.

 

Because Hamilton is injury prone and Zambrano is an ace caliber pitcher, which they sorely need.

The problem is that Zambrano is not an ace-quality pitcher. If Texas thinks that though, this could be the steal of the century

[Ding Dong Johnson]

I don't see why Texas would do that.

Jon Daniels

[Guest]

I don't see why Texas would do that.

 

Because Hamilton is injury prone and Zambrano is an ace caliber pitcher, which they sorely need.

 

Zambrano's shoulder is kind of scary, injury-wise.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I don't see why Texas would do that.

 

Really the team with probably the worst pitching in baseball wouldn't even think about trading for one of the best pitchers in baseball? You don't think Pie and Zambrano could even get a discussion about it?

 

Nope. Zambrano has two straight seasons of an ERA of 3.9, a possibly bum shoulder and a huge new contract.

 

He has negative trade value.

[rchap24]

I don't see why Texas would do that.

 

Because Hamilton is injury prone and Zambrano is an ace caliber pitcher, which they sorely need.

The problem is that Zambrano is not an ace-quality pitcher. If Texas thinks that though, this could be the steal of the century

 

Well many people believe he is much better than he show ever year. He has the stuff to be the best in the league, but always screws up. So I dont think it would be that crazy for a team to want to see what they could do with him.

[UMFan83]

We should have just kept Hamilton when we had him. *ducks*

 

 

(before people respond, my post was satirical in nature and I am well aware that the Cubs had no knowledge of who they were picking for the Reds when they agreed to trade their rule v pick to them)

[rchap24]

We should have just kept Hamilton when we had him. *ducks*

 

 

(before people respond, my post was satirical in nature and I am well aware that the Cubs had no knowledge of who they were picking for the Reds when they agreed to trade their rule v pick to them)

 

Would have been nice though not going to lie

[UMFan83]

BTW, isn't the ballpark a part of the reason why some of their pitchers suck? I don't feel like looking up the Park factors for the park, but its not exactly a pitchers haven.

 

Kevin Milwood won the ERA title in Cleveland, went to Texas and watched his career disappear

Edison Voloquez had some meh seasons with Texas, then got traded to the Reds to start out strong and slowly (aka quickly) get Dustified

Chris Young is another example, but he did go to Petco Park and has bad road splits now.

 

In fact, I'm having a hard time thinking of a pitcher that did well for the Rangers besides Kenny Rodgers. I think Z would do alright in Arlington, as long as his sinker was effective and he kept balls on the ground. But I would think his days of sub-4 ERAs would be in danger.

Edited October 8, 2008 by UMFan83

[rchap24]

BTW, isn't the ballpark a part of the reason why some of their pitchers suck? I don't feel like looking up the Park factors for the park, but its not exactly a pitchers haven.

 

Kevin Milwood won the ERA title in Cleveland, went to Texas and watched his career disappear

Edison Voloquez had some meh seasons with Texas, then got traded to the Reds to start out strong and slowly (aka quickly) get Dustified

Chris Young is another example, but he did go to Petco Park and has bad road splits now.

 

Ha yes true, but like you just pointed out yourself with all three of those pitchers there are expectations that go along with them.

[Little Slide Rooter]

We should have just kept Hamilton when we had him. *ducks*

 

 

(before people respond, my post was satirical in nature and I am well aware that the Cubs had no knowledge of who they were picking for the Reds when they agreed to trade their rule v pick to them)

 

Would have been nice though not going to lie

 

We never really had him. We had a deal in place with the Reds that we would drsft him and trade him to them. If it hadnt been for the deal, we probably never would have grabbed him to begin with. Besides, we didnt need him, we had Jacque Jones and Felix Pie, and if they fell through, Tyler Colvin was just around the corner, so how could we possibly go wrong?

[rchap24]

We should have just kept Hamilton when we had him. *ducks*

 

 

(before people respond, my post was satirical in nature and I am well aware that the Cubs had no knowledge of who they were picking for the Reds when they agreed to trade their rule v pick to them)

 

Would have been nice though not going to lie

 

We never really had him. We had a deal in place with the Reds that we would drsft him and trade him to them. If it hadnt been for the deal, we probably never would have grabbed him to begin with. Besides, we didnt need him, we had Jacque Jones and Felix Pie, and if they fell through, Tyler Colvin was just around the corner, so how could we possibly go wrong?

 

Oh no I know we didn't just am say it would have nice to have him ha

[Little Slide Rooter]

We should have just kept Hamilton when we had him. *ducks*

 

 

(before people respond, my post was satirical in nature and I am well aware that the Cubs had no knowledge of who they were picking for the Reds when they agreed to trade their rule v pick to them)

 

Would have been nice though not going to lie

 

We never really had him. We had a deal in place with the Reds that we would drsft him and trade him to them. If it hadnt been for the deal, we probably never would have grabbed him to begin with. Besides, we didnt need him, we had Jacque Jones and Felix Pie, and if they fell through, Tyler Colvin was just around the corner, so how could we possibly go wrong?

 

Oh no I know we didn't just am say it would have nice to have him ha

 

The thing about our GM is that hes very good about going out and getting his guy when he has his sights on him, but I doubt we'll ever see him strike gold with a Josh Hamilton or Carlos Quentin, because hes only interested in the high price tag guys and doesnt seem to keep an eye out for potential, at least thats my take on it. I know that Hamilton and Quentin didnt just come out of nowhere, and were both former top prospects with their former organizations, but Hendry would rather throw big money at a player coming off a big season than take a chance on a one time prospect.

[SouthSideRyan]

Hendry can't afford to take a chance on a lottery ticket for a full time position.

[rchap24]

Hendry can't afford to take a chance on a lottery ticket for a full time position.

 

He wouldn't be a lottery ticket...Even with his decline at the end of the year he still was one of the best players in the American League

[sneakypower]

you should advise that guy to just stick to the deep fryer from now on

[rchap24]

you should advise that guy to just stick to the deep fryer from now on

 

Was that a knock on my co-worker? or my job?

[nilodnayr]

I don't see why Texas would do that.

 

Really the team with probably the worst pitching in baseball wouldn't even think about trading for one of the best pitchers in baseball? You don't think Pie and Zambrano could even get a discussion about it?

 

Nope. Zambrano has two straight seasons of an ERA of 3.9, a possibly bum shoulder and a huge new contract.

 

He has negative trade value.

 

Not to mention hes not a GB pitcher anymore and hasn't had a FIP under 4 in a while now.

[UMFan83]

I don't see why Texas would do that.

 

Really the team with probably the worst pitching in baseball wouldn't even think about trading for one of the best pitchers in baseball? You don't think Pie and Zambrano could even get a discussion about it?

 

Nope. Zambrano has two straight seasons of an ERA of 3.9, a possibly bum shoulder and a huge new contract.

 

He has negative trade value.

 

Not to mention hes not a GB pitcher anymore and hasn't had a FIP under 4 in a while now.

 

I have a feeling that the Carlos Zambrano era in Chicago is not going to end pretty.

[nilodnayr]

I don't see why Texas would do that.

 

Really the team with probably the worst pitching in baseball wouldn't even think about trading for one of the best pitchers in baseball? You don't think Pie and Zambrano could even get a discussion about it?

 

Nope. Zambrano has two straight seasons of an ERA of 3.9, a possibly bum shoulder and a huge new contract.

 

He has negative trade value.

 

Not to mention hes not a GB pitcher anymore and hasn't had a FIP under 4 in a while now.

 

I have a feeling that the Carlos Zambrano era in Chicago is not going to end pretty.

 

Nope, not at all...I think its going to be above and beyond the Sammy Sosa level.

[SouthSideRyan]

Hendry can't afford to take a chance on a lottery ticket for a full time position.

 

He wouldn't be a lottery ticket...Even with his decline at the end of the year he still was one of the best players in the American League

 

I'm talking about taking chances on guys like Hamilton or Quentin before they explode at the majors.

[chuckywang]

Hendry can't afford to take a chance on a lottery ticket for a full time position.

 

He wouldn't be a lottery ticket...Even with his decline at the end of the year he still was one of the best players in the American League

 

I'm talking about taking chances on guys like Hamilton or Quentin before they explode at the majors.

 

Quentin was no lottery ticket ... he was a top notch prospect that didn't have a position in Arizona. Hamilton, for that matter, was a top notch prospect as well, but we all know why he didn't pan out in the beginning.