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there have been a rash of people absolutely embarrassing themselves re:Soriano lately

 

far more embarrassing than soriano's performance in the NLDS, actually.

 

Doubtful.

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I doubt they spend as much of their free time thinking about the Cubs as we do. It's their job, they get paid to do it, end of story. I'm sure some players were upset, but I bet most of them were over it by the time they boarded the plane.

you don't think they think about their jobs as much as we think about their jobs?

 

Lou and all the players weren't here 20 years ago, many of the fans have been. I think a lot of the fans are more emotionally vested in this teams performance than what most of the players are. I'm not saying the players don't care, I'm just saying the fans have long suffered.

what does that have to do with anything? I wasn't with my company 20 years ago, and that doesn't mean I don't think about my job and performance any less than those who have been or our stockholders.

 

I'm sure your job is very similar to Soriano's or most other players. For starters, is your job guaranteed for 8 years and $136M? No worries of getting fired, no evaluations, no reviews. I hear what you are saying, I just don't think your example is a good one.

you're right, it was just as bad as those who claim the players don't care that much after the final out

 

I concur. You know some of the Cubs are watching the playoffs from home, reading all the media reports, and feeling totally miserable.

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yes, it's more embarrassing to deal with a baseball team's loss like an adult

 

I didn't realize there are professional authorities on how to deal with a loss, and that they know of the only correct way to deal with a loss. I didn't realize that people's emotions are all wired same exact way. I also didn't realize that it is other people's missions to let inform people of this one and only way to emotionally react to situations.

 

Luckily these professionals all reside on this forum. Once you have trained the masses here, we can finally be assured that everyone thinks and acts the same so we can have some interesting and lively discussions.

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yes, it's more embarrassing to deal with a baseball team's loss like an adult

 

I didn't realize there are professional authorities on how to deal with a loss, and that they know of the only correct way to deal with a loss. I didn't realize that people's emotions are all wired same exact way. I also didn't realize that it is other people's missions to let inform people of this one any only way to emotionally.

 

Luckily these professionals all reside on this forum. Once you have trained the masses here, we can finally be assured that everyone thinks and acts the same so we can have some interesting and lively discussions.

 

Ouch, nice post!

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yes, it's more embarrassing to deal with a baseball team's loss like an adult

 

I didn't realize there are professional authorities on how to deal with a loss, and that they know of the only correct way to deal with a loss. I didn't realize that people's emotions are all wired same exact way. I also didn't realize that it is other people's missions to let inform people of this one and only way to emotionally react to situations.

 

Luckily these professionals all reside on this forum. Once you have trained the masses here, we can finally be assured that everyone thinks and acts the same so we can have some interesting and lively discussions.

 

Then why are you mad that Soriano was smiling?

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yes, it's more embarrassing to deal with a baseball team's loss like an adult

 

I didn't realize there are professional authorities on how to deal with a loss, and that they know of the only correct way to deal with a loss. I didn't realize that people's emotions are all wired same exact way. I also didn't realize that it is other people's missions to let inform people of this one and only way to emotionally react to situations.

 

Luckily these professionals all reside on this forum. Once you have trained the masses here, we can finally be assured that everyone thinks and acts the same so we can have some interesting and lively discussions.

 

Then why are you mad that Soriano was smiling?

 

Aha! I knew you thought I was wrong in thinking that way. Just admit it instead of saying "Wow" and then backtracking.

 

But also, decently valid point. You got me there. More than likely my bitterness of his playoff performance factored into taking offense at seeing that picture, and elicited an emotional response that I posted because this board is my emotional outlet.

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Aha! I knew you thought I was wrong in thinking that way. Just admit it instead of saying "Wow" and then backtracking.

 

I didn't backtrack.

 

You are entitled to your way of thinking. This isn't a true/false question, there is no right or wrong. But your reaction is over the top and will elicit a wow from me because it seems over the top.

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yes, it's more embarrassing to deal with a baseball team's loss like an adult

 

I didn't realize there are professional authorities on how to deal with a loss, and that they know of the only correct way to deal with a loss. I didn't realize that people's emotions are all wired same exact way. I also didn't realize that it is other people's missions to let inform people of this one and only way to emotionally react to situations.

 

Luckily these professionals all reside on this forum. Once you have trained the masses here, we can finally be assured that everyone thinks and acts the same so we can have some interesting and lively discussions.

 

what does this have to do with anything? you said that acting calm about a baseball team's loss is more embarrassing than acting like a child.

 

which is stupid.

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Aha! I knew you thought I was wrong in thinking that way. Just admit it instead of saying "Wow" and then backtracking.

 

I didn't backtrack.

 

You are entitled to your way of thinking. This isn't a true/false question, there is no right or wrong. But your reaction is over the top and will elicit a wow from me because it seems over the top.

 

Well next time explain yourself instead of just saying "Wow". I don't see how it adds much to the discussion. :?:

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yes, it's more embarrassing to deal with a baseball team's loss like an adult

 

I didn't realize there are professional authorities on how to deal with a loss, and that they know of the only correct way to deal with a loss. I didn't realize that people's emotions are all wired same exact way. I also didn't realize that it is other people's missions to let inform people of this one and only way to emotionally react to situations.

 

Luckily these professionals all reside on this forum. Once you have trained the masses here, we can finally be assured that everyone thinks and acts the same so we can have some interesting and lively discussions.

 

what does this have to do with anything? you said that acting calm about a baseball team's loss is more embarrassing than acting like a child.

 

which is stupid.

 

I was indirectly responding to everyone who acts like they are superior to people who outwardly show their emotions by pretending like they are the rocks of emotional stability.

 

And actually its not just that, I don't even mind that, its easily dismissable. It's the fact that they need to point itout every single time.

 

We're not going to agree on this IMB! so lets just drop it.

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yes, it's more embarrassing to deal with a baseball team's loss like an adult

 

I didn't realize there are professional authorities on how to deal with a loss, and that they know of the only correct way to deal with a loss. I didn't realize that people's emotions are all wired same exact way. I also didn't realize that it is other people's missions to let inform people of this one and only way to emotionally react to situations.

 

Luckily these professionals all reside on this forum. Once you have trained the masses here, we can finally be assured that everyone thinks and acts the same so we can have some interesting and lively discussions.

 

what does this have to do with anything? you said that acting calm about a baseball team's loss is more embarrassing than acting like a child.

 

which is stupid.

 

I was indirectly responding to everyone who acts like they are superior to people who outwardly show their emotions by pretending like they are the rocks of emotional stability.

 

And actually its not just that, I don't even mind that, its easily dismissable. It's the fact that they need to point itout every single time.

 

We're not going to agree on this IMB! so lets just drop it.

 

pretending? you're delusional.

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Just because Soriano is smiling three days after his team got eliminated from post-season in no way, shape or form makes him someone who doesn't care about his job.

 

I know 99% of you don't get the priviledge to go into a clubhouse after a game..if you did..you would see the anger felt when a team gets eliminated from post-season. You would see grown men crying because they didn't get the opportunity to win a championship. Please don't take what I am saying as "There goes Ron again rubbing it in our faces that he gets to do this." That's not why I am posting.

 

What pisses me off more than anything else as a broadcaster is when a "fan" starts talking crap about a players lack of commitment or lack of emotion..they show it in the clubhouse..they show it in the privacy of their own home..but they DON'T show it in front of you fans for whatever reason. Maybe they don't show it in front of the fans as a message that its okay.. life will go on..honestly, I don't know.

 

What I do know is that I have seen my share of tears shed in a clubhouse when a team's season ends abruptly. It ain't pretty.

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I doubt they spend as much of their free time thinking about the Cubs as we do. It's their job, they get paid to do it, end of story. I'm sure some players were upset, but I bet most of them were over it by the time they boarded the plane.

you don't think they think about their jobs as much as we think about their jobs?

My point is that they probably think about their jobs just as much as most people think about theirs. Which, considering most people here spend their days thinking about the Cubs while at work, is why I think most of them were over it within a few hours. Do you think about your job much when you leave the office?

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I doubt they spend as much of their free time thinking about the Cubs as we do. It's their job, they get paid to do it, end of story. I'm sure some players were upset, but I bet most of them were over it by the time they boarded the plane.

you don't think they think about their jobs as much as we think about their jobs?

My point is that they probably think about their jobs just as much as most people think about theirs. Which, considering most people here spend their days thinking about the Cubs while at work, is why I think most of them were over it within a few hours. Do you think about your job much when you leave the office?

 

Not everyone's current occupation is their dream job. I'm not sure what you do for a living, but was it something you dreamed about doing as a child? Did you tell everyone that you aspired to be a ? When you got home from school as a kid and went out to play with your friends, instead of grabbing a ball and bat, did you go out and practice ?

 

I'd have to think that if I spent my entire life practicing my butt off to be a professional athlete, actually reached that goal, had a legitimate chance to make baseball history by being a part of the first Cubs team to win a World Series in 100 year and had that chance end in an embarrassing manner, I might not get over it in just a few hours.

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What I do know is that I have seen my share of tears shed in a clubhouse when a team's season ends abruptly. It ain't pretty.

http://brahsome.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/morrison-crying-at-the-tournament1.jpg

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What I do know is that I have seen my share of tears shed in a clubhouse when a team's season ends abruptly. It ain't pretty.

http://brahsome.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/morrison-crying-at-the-tournament1.jpg

 

i think raising just b his l in his ps

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What I do know is that I have seen my share of tears shed in a clubhouse when a team's season ends abruptly. It ain't pretty.

http://brahsome.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/morrison-crying-at-the-tournament1.jpg

 

Now can you see this is all I wanted Soriano to do. Is that too much to ask?

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What I do know is that I have seen my share of tears shed in a clubhouse when a team's season ends abruptly. It ain't pretty.

http://brahsome.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/morrison-crying-at-the-tournament1.jpg

 

It ain't pretty when he smiles either. Or looks indifferent. Or pensive.

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I hate going into a clubhouse after a loss that ends the season. It's like going to a funeral for a family member. Tom Hanks was full of crap when he said there's no crying in baseball. I've been known to shed a few tears myself..I knew I shouldn't have watched Oprah last off-season..
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I hate going into a clubhouse after a loss that ends the season. It's like going to a funeral for a family member. Tom Hanks was full of crap when he said there's no crying in baseball. I've been known to shed a few tears myself..I knew I shouldn't have watched Oprah last off-season..

 

i was covering a high school baseball state tournament a while back. the team had played over its head and made a deeper run than they should have, they were all freshmen or sophomores for the most part and the coach had been diagnosed with cancer during the offseason. it was a smallish community that had kind of rallied around this team and it made for a nice story.

 

but they got crushed in the end - i cant remember if it was the finals or not - but anyway, having to go out there and interview everyone was the worst time i've had as a reporter. there were so many tears they probably didn't have to water the field after the game.

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I hate going into a clubhouse after a loss that ends the season. It's like going to a funeral for a family member. Tom Hanks was full of crap when he said there's no crying in baseball. I've been known to shed a few tears myself..I knew I shouldn't have watched Oprah last off-season..

 

I don't think the line is crap at all.

 

It's not talking about the clubhouse or in private or whatever...I fully expect players to flip out then. The line is about when you're in the dugout or on the field or even in public...you just don't typically see these guys meltdown in despair like that until they're out of sight or in private.

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If I read one more person saying the Cubs didn't care enough, I'm about to stop reading this forum. What the hell is wrong with you people?

 

A guy is smiling days after the loss, and he's being demonized? Do you want him to just look like [expletive] and drink all winter?

 

For Gods sake, these people are grown men, they spend the entire year together. You think they don't care? Grow up. Seriously, all of you that think like this, grow the hell up. They care.

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