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JeffH is correct.

 

I'm confused as to why. The only two years he was optioned were 2005 and 2007. In 2006 he stayed with the major league club all year. I thought it was a similar situation to Corey Patterson who was in the minors and majors in 2001 and 2002, but spent the entire 2002, 2003, and 2004 years with the major league club and still was able to be optioned down in 2005. Is it because 2001 was just a September call up? So then you only get 2 options for players that spend at least a full year on the major league club?

 

Damnit, I thought I had this all figured out.

 

Ronny Cedeno was optioned to the minor leagues during spring training, 2004.

 

Why would a team do this? Was he on the 40 man for a certain amount of time and they had to option him to keep him or something?

 

I don't recall the exact details, but I do remember that when they added Cedeno to the 40-man roster it seemed to be an entirely unnecessary move, as there was little to no chance anybody would select him in the rule 5 and keep him all year. He was not the least bit productive at the time. It seemed at the time to serve only to start his option clock.

 

He was added to the 40-man roster in November of 2003. As jersey says, it was almost certainly a foolish and unnecessary move.

 

Regardless, when he was sent to the minors in March or April of 2004, he burned his first option year.

 

But did they have to burn an option in 2004?

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JeffH is correct.

 

I'm confused as to why. The only two years he was optioned were 2005 and 2007. In 2006 he stayed with the major league club all year. I thought it was a similar situation to Corey Patterson who was in the minors and majors in 2001 and 2002, but spent the entire 2002, 2003, and 2004 years with the major league club and still was able to be optioned down in 2005. Is it because 2001 was just a September call up? So then you only get 2 options for players that spend at least a full year on the major league club?

 

Damnit, I thought I had this all figured out.

 

Ronny Cedeno was optioned to the minor leagues during spring training, 2004.

 

Why would a team do this? Was he on the 40 man for a certain amount of time and they had to option him to keep him or something?

 

I don't recall the exact details, but I do remember that when they added Cedeno to the 40-man roster it seemed to be an entirely unnecessary move, as there was little to no chance anybody would select him in the rule 5 and keep him all year. He was not the least bit productive at the time. It seemed at the time to serve only to start his option clock.

 

He was added to the 40-man roster in November of 2003. As jersey says, it was almost certainly a foolish and unnecessary move.

 

Regardless, when he was sent to the minors in March or April of 2004, he burned his first option year.

 

But did they have to burn an option in 2004?

 

Yes, of course.

 

With a few specific exceptions, any time a player is on the 40-man roster, but not on the 25-man roster or the major league disabled list, said player is using an option year.

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JeffH is correct.

 

I'm confused as to why. The only two years he was optioned were 2005 and 2007. In 2006 he stayed with the major league club all year. I thought it was a similar situation to Corey Patterson who was in the minors and majors in 2001 and 2002, but spent the entire 2002, 2003, and 2004 years with the major league club and still was able to be optioned down in 2005. Is it because 2001 was just a September call up? So then you only get 2 options for players that spend at least a full year on the major league club?

 

Damnit, I thought I had this all figured out.

 

Ronny Cedeno was optioned to the minor leagues during spring training, 2004.

 

Why would a team do this? Was he on the 40 man for a certain amount of time and they had to option him to keep him or something?

 

I don't recall the exact details, but I do remember that when they added Cedeno to the 40-man roster it seemed to be an entirely unnecessary move, as there was little to no chance anybody would select him in the rule 5 and keep him all year. He was not the least bit productive at the time. It seemed at the time to serve only to start his option clock.

 

He was added to the 40-man roster in November of 2003. As jersey says, it was almost certainly a foolish and unnecessary move.

 

Regardless, when he was sent to the minors in March or April of 2004, he burned his first option year.

 

But did they have to burn an option in 2004?

 

Yes, of course.

 

With a few specific exceptions, any time a player is on the 40-man roster, but not on the 25-man roster or the major league disabled list, said player is using an option year.

 

They wouldn't have had to if they didn't 40-man him though, correct?

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JeffH is correct.

 

I'm confused as to why. The only two years he was optioned were 2005 and 2007. In 2006 he stayed with the major league club all year. I thought it was a similar situation to Corey Patterson who was in the minors and majors in 2001 and 2002, but spent the entire 2002, 2003, and 2004 years with the major league club and still was able to be optioned down in 2005. Is it because 2001 was just a September call up? So then you only get 2 options for players that spend at least a full year on the major league club?

 

Damnit, I thought I had this all figured out.

 

Ronny Cedeno was optioned to the minor leagues during spring training, 2004.

 

Why would a team do this? Was he on the 40 man for a certain amount of time and they had to option him to keep him or something?

 

I don't recall the exact details, but I do remember that when they added Cedeno to the 40-man roster it seemed to be an entirely unnecessary move, as there was little to no chance anybody would select him in the rule 5 and keep him all year. He was not the least bit productive at the time. It seemed at the time to serve only to start his option clock.

 

He was added to the 40-man roster in November of 2003. As jersey says, it was almost certainly a foolish and unnecessary move.

 

Regardless, when he was sent to the minors in March or April of 2004, he burned his first option year.

 

But did they have to burn an option in 2004?

 

Yes, of course.

 

With a few specific exceptions, any time a player is on the 40-man roster, but not on the 25-man roster or the major league disabled list, said player is using an option year.

 

They wouldn't have had to if they didn't 40-man him though, correct?

 

Correct. And as you said earlier, there really was no reason to roster him before the Rule 5 draft in 2003.

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