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[mtozz]

Ive watched every game this year, actually. :thumbsup:

[illiniguy]

Ok seriously, regardless of the fact that they are playing the Giants right now... how do the Cardinals keep winning? Their team looks horrible on paper and has looked horrible against the Cubs, yet somehow they can't lose.

 

The Yankees have proven time and again that its not 'names' that win, or have a right to win. Good ballplayers playing as a team with the drive to do their best at every moment is a powerful winning combination. The pixey dust and luck references just sounds like someone doesnt understand the game very well.

This is the best post ever. Yep it isn't the "names" that win it for the Yankees. God if only we knew about any of their infielders on the left side. What a great point you bring up.

[RedVerbs]

The Cardinals have an excellent lineup, if anything, their pitching will not be as good and their bullpen will be their ultimate downfall.

 

The Cubs have a slightly better team, but you're fooling yourself if you think the gap is huge. Ludwick, Ankiel, Pujols and Glaus is much better than any 4 the Cubs have to offer. Not even an issue. They are far outperforming the Cubs top 4. And it's not dust or none of that other nonsense, it's because they are just better hitters.

 

Lee is all right, nowhere near Pujols

Ramirez and Glaus are equals

Soto and Ankiel are equals

Ludwick is far better than any 4th batter the Cubs have

[ChiCubsfan0502]

Ive watched every game this year, actually. :thumbsup:

 

Then you obviously saw a pathetic Padres team make errors, not run the bases with any brains, blow 5 run leads and then when they actually do something right, they hit liners right to Pujols.

 

Yup, pixie dust was a flyin this weekend. :thumbsup:

[mtozz]

Ive watched every game this year, actually. :thumbsup:

 

Actually look forward to the remaining Cub StL games. Cards were very flat offensively the last series, so you would expect that not to be the case next time.

 

Yes, agree on 'paper' Cubs should win at home, so everybody believes and expects. I just wouldnt sell anybody short...this early anyway. Especially someone who does a lot of winning year in year out.

[razzzorsharp]

Braun knocked out Timmy L and gave the Brewers a 5-0 lead.

[CubsNSkers07]

Just do a little research on all your players, you come back and report to me all the guys overachieving on their career numbers.

 

I'll give you a small sample

 

Aaron Miles career numbers not including this year and the years he had over 100 at bats.

 

476-1686 .282 average so I don't know I think he's bound to cool off from his .323 average just maybe don't you?

[mtozz]

Ive watched every game this year, actually. :thumbsup:

 

Then you obviously saw a pathetic Padres team make errors, not run the bases with any brains, blow 5 run leads and then when they actually do something right, they hit liners right to Pujols.

 

Yup, pixie dust was a flyin this weekend. :thumbsup:

 

 

So is that to say the better team that didnt make as many mistakes and hit better should lose those games? That makes no sense at all.

[CubsNSkers07]

Ive watched every game this year, actually. :thumbsup:

 

Actually look forward to the remaining Cub StL games. Cards were very flat offensively the last series, so you would expect that not to be the case next time.

 

Yes, agree on 'paper' Cubs should win at home, so everybody believes and expects. I just wouldnt sell anybody short...this early anyway. Especially someone who does a lot of winning year in year out.

 

 

Very flat offensively or the Cubs pitchers made the cardinals look pathetic, handcuffing them all weekend except for the Kerry Wood blown save, I mean I guess sure they were "flat" when you are going against good pitching.

[mtozz]

Ive watched every game this year, actually. :thumbsup:

 

Actually look forward to the remaining Cub StL games. Cards were very flat offensively the last series, so you would expect that not to be the case next time.

 

Yes, agree on 'paper' Cubs should win at home, so everybody believes and expects. I just wouldnt sell anybody short...this early anyway. Especially someone who does a lot of winning year in year out.

 

 

Very flat offensively or the Cubs pitchers made the cardinals look pathetic, handcuffing them all weekend except for the Kerry Wood blown save, I mean I guess sure they were "flat" when you are going against good pitching.

Oh yeah the Cubs did pitch very well. Though the Cards bats were down leading in to the series, just a fact. Its crops up some this year, they cant hit a lick and then get back to timely hitting. But they have had hitting slumps to be sure.

[Ball And Glove]

I might as well start bracing myself for the inevitable Cards sweep of the Brewers next, huh? :banghead:

I say cards win first two and Sheets, Sabathia win for a series split.

 

Probably a safe bet, but I'm terrified of the Brewers dropping the first two games in the series in gut-wrenching fashion (like a couple more walk-offs from Aaron Miles or Skip Schumaker), followed by CC having his first bad start as a Brewer.

 

Nothing ever seems to go right for the Brewers at New Busch -- it was a 4-game sweep there in August last year (including a double header sweep by the Cards with 2 walkoff wins, one of which came after the Brewers were winning 7-0 early) that pretty much deflated any hopes of holding off the Cubs last year. I don't think there's a road series I dread more every year than the 4-game set in St. Louis.

[TMan92]

The Cardinals have an excellent lineup, if anything, their pitching will not be as good and their bullpen will be their ultimate downfall.

 

The Cubs have a slightly better team, but you're fooling yourself if you think the gap is huge. Ludwick, Ankiel, Pujols and Glaus is much better than any 4 the Cubs have to offer. Not even an issue. They are far outperforming the Cubs top 4. And it's not dust or none of that other nonsense, it's because they are just better hitters.

 

Lee is all right, nowhere near Pujols

Ramirez and Glaus are equals

Soto and Ankiel are equals

Ludwick is far better than any 4th batter the Cubs have

 

 

Soriano? Besides Pujols, I'll take our lineup thanks.

[TMan92]

The Cubs losing 2 of three in SF was inexcusable.

[BCVM22]

The Cubs losing 2 of three in SF was inexcusable.

 

They split a 4-game series.

[TMan92]

The Cubs losing 2 of three in SF was inexcusable.

 

They split a 4-game series.

 

Damn last day of June. Ok....losing two in SF was inexcusable :)

[illiniguy]

The Cardinals have an excellent lineup, if anything, their pitching will not be as good and their bullpen will be their ultimate downfall.

 

The Cubs have a slightly better team, but you're fooling yourself if you think the gap is huge. Ludwick, Ankiel, Pujols and Glaus is much better than any 4 the Cubs have to offer. Not even an issue. They are far outperforming the Cubs top 4. And it's not dust or none of that other nonsense, it's because they are just better hitters.

 

Lee is all right, nowhere near Pujols

Ramirez and Glaus are equals

Soto and Ankiel are equals

Ludwick is far better than any 4th batter the Cubs have

Hi, I am Alfonso Soriano. I have taken craps that have more talent than Ryan Ludwick.

[Schwarber Fan]

At least one of the Brewers or Cards will HAVE to lose coming up next series, then again one of them has to win as well. :(

 

Aaron Miles? All you can do is laugh.

 

And of course Lincecum isn't lights out against the Brewers. duh.

[CubsNSkers07]

At least one of the Brewers or Cards will HAVE to lose coming up next series, then again one of them has to win as well. :(

 

Aaron Miles? All you can do is laugh.

 

And of course Lincecum isn't lights out against the Brewers. duh.

 

It's funny some of the Cards fans that keep trying to talk up the talent on the boards over here. I know multiple St Louis Cardinal fans that are crapping their pants because the best they thought they'd finish when they say the lineup was 4th in the Division, some fans are just delirious and don't realize when half of your team overachieves your going to be rolling smoothly.

[VanceJergins]

The Cardinals have an excellent lineup, if anything, their pitching will not be as good and their bullpen will be their ultimate downfall.

 

The Cubs have a slightly better team, but you're fooling yourself if you think the gap is huge. Ludwick, Ankiel, Pujols and Glaus is much better than any 4 the Cubs have to offer. Not even an issue. They are far outperforming the Cubs top 4. And it's not dust or none of that other nonsense, it's because they are just better hitters.

 

Lee is all right, nowhere near Pujols

Ramirez and Glaus are equals

Soto and Ankiel are equals

Ludwick is far better than any 4th batter the Cubs have

 

That's a very creative way to look at it. Besides Pujols and Glaus, the Cardinals just have a bunch of over-achieving turds. Glaus is nowhere near the baseball player Ramirez is. OPS the past 3 seasons:

 

Ramirez:

.926

.912

.915

 

Glaus:

.885

.868

.839

 

Not to mention Ramirez is better defensively.

[BCVM22]

Not to mention Ramirez is better defensively.

 

And 2 years younger.

[Schwarber Fan]

Lee is all right, nowhere near Pujols

Ramirez and Glaus are equals

Soto and Ankiel are equals

Ludwick is far better than any 4th batter the Cubs have

 

Terrible analysis

 

Lee isn't "no where near" Pujols

Ramirez > Glaus

Why are you comparing Soto and Ankiel?

Soriano and even current Edmonds might be better or at least equal to Ludwick

[illiniguy]

Not to mention Ramirez is better defensively.

 

And 2 years younger.

These Cardinal fans are great. Yeah your stats prove me worng, but we have Mystique and no name talent who play as a team to win. Or maybe you are due for a terrible stretch that your lack of talent can't really prevent. The guy who compared Aramis to Glaus and came up even sure is looking at things objectively. Oh and Soto and Ankiel are pretty similar if you don't mind a guy never taking a walk.

 

But, really look deeper than the first four. Which you screwed up doing since you forgot our best player. Who we haven't had in over a month. Take a look at the DeRosas and Theriots vs. Miles and Ryans. That is where you see how our offense is better. That isn't even taking into account our pitching staff vs. yours. I think Milwaukee exposes you some this week.

[ChiCubsfan0502]

The Cardinals have an excellent lineup, if anything, their pitching will not be as good and their bullpen will be their ultimate downfall.

 

The Cubs have a slightly better team, but you're fooling yourself if you think the gap is huge. Ludwick, Ankiel, Pujols and Glaus is much better than any 4 the Cubs have to offer. Not even an issue. They are far outperforming the Cubs top 4. And it's not dust or none of that other nonsense, it's because they are just better hitters.

 

Lee is all right, nowhere near Pujols

Ramirez and Glaus are equals

Soto and Ankiel are equals

Ludwick is far better than any 4th batter the Cubs have

 

I could have bolded everything you wrote. I didn't realize Soto and Ankiel were playing the same position.

 

As far as the rest of that pile of crap you posted:

 

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

 

Oh and for good measure:

 

:rotfl: :rotfl:

[17 Seconds]

The Cardinals have an excellent lineup, if anything, their pitching will not be as good and their bullpen will be their ultimate downfall.

 

The Cubs have a slightly better team, but you're fooling yourself if you think the gap is huge. Ludwick, Ankiel, Pujols and Glaus is much better than any 4 the Cubs have to offer. Not even an issue. They are far outperforming the Cubs top 4. And it's not dust or none of that other nonsense, it's because they are just better hitters.

 

Lee is all right, nowhere near Pujols

Ramirez and Glaus are equals

Soto and Ankiel are equals

Ludwick is far better than any 4th batter the Cubs have

 

I could have bolded everything you wrote. I didn't realize Soto and Ankiel were playing the same position.

 

As far as the rest of that pile of crap you posted:

 

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

 

Oh and for good measure:

 

:rotfl: :rotfl:

 

Not only was it terrible analysis of those 4 "matchups", but it's pretty funny that that's the way he's comparing teams...... as if lineup depth, starting pitching, and relief pitching are minor details. If you expanded these "matchups" into other areas of the game, the Cubs would have the advantage in almost every possible example.

 

Anyways, I'd take Soriano/Lee/Ramirez/Soto over Pujols/Glaus/Ankiel/Ludwick for the rest of this season. even if the Cardinal foursome has outperformed them so far this season.

[ajkeence99]

Hey everyone. Cardinals fan here. Just wanted to say that both teams are having a great season so far, heck, include the Brewers in that as well. While the Cubs are the favorites I don't think it is anywhere near a given that the Cubs are going to win the division at this point. With ~60 games left for each team, each of us are one series win, or loss, away from being out of a playoff spot at the point. It's going to be fun the rest of the season but I don't think it's fair to say the Cardinals are lucky or it's some form of pixie dust that is the key to our success. We had a lot of "ifs" coming into the season and luckily a good portion of those have panned out. Carp has a rehab start going on as we speak and has looked good so far and Wainwright should be back soon as well so there is a certain level of optimism in St. Louis.

 

It's anyone's game right now, good luck to all three teams, (But mostly the Cards :hello: )