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A 1961 (card number #35) Ron Santo Topps Rookie Card that I bought for 30 dollars. Looked up at beckett, and it was valued at $80! :shock: Is that right?

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If you collect cards, shop on eBay. Dont ever sell.

 

I was finding my uncle's old NFL cards for my father's christmas present, found all of them in a week - and an issue of Pro Football Magazine with him on the cover that no one in the family knew existed.

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If you collect cards, shop on eBay. Dont ever sell.

 

I was finding my uncle's old NFL cards for my father's christmas present, found all of them in a week - and an issue of Pro Football Magazine with him on the cover that no one in the family knew existed.

 

who's your uncle?

Posted
If you collect cards, shop on eBay. Dont ever sell.

 

I was finding my uncle's old NFL cards for my father's christmas present, found all of them in a week - and an issue of Pro Football Magazine with him on the cover that no one in the family knew existed.

 

who's your uncle?

 

Yeah, I don't remember a Goober playing in the NFL? :D

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According to Beckett Online, your Santo card is only valued at $40 now. You may have had an old Beckett magazine.

 

That card is also only worth that much if it's in good condition. If it has worn edges or any signs of deterioration, it loses significant value. Also if the centering of the photo on the card is off a bit, it can also hurt its value.

 

But... if it's a perfect card, nearly flawless, you may want to consider getting it graded. It will costs about $20 (I think) to get it graded, but if it's a mint card and it is graded a 9 or higher, it will increaser the value of the card significantly, and it will also be (ideally) permanently protected in a case.

Posted
If you collect cards, shop on eBay. Dont ever sell.

 

I was finding my uncle's old NFL cards for my father's christmas present, found all of them in a week - and an issue of Pro Football Magazine with him on the cover that no one in the family knew existed.

Then where should you sell to?

Oh, and if I'm you, I'm holding on to that card until Santo passes and ideally makes it into the HOF.

Posted
If you collect cards, shop on eBay. Dont ever sell.

 

I was finding my uncle's old NFL cards for my father's christmas present, found all of them in a week - and an issue of Pro Football Magazine with him on the cover that no one in the family knew existed.

Then where should you sell to?

Oh, and if I'm you, I'm holding on to that card until Santo passes and ideally makes it into the HOF.

 

There's plenty of message boards you can deal on. The one I use is http://www.sportscardforum.com

 

There are several reasons not to sell on Ebay...

 

1) Unless it's a very high value card or a very popular player, there's no guarantee the card will sell for what you want it to sell for. I put two cards up on Ebay at the same time. One was a David Price autographed card numbered out of 50 (only 50 made) that booked for $100 at the time. I also had a Josh Vitters auto numbered out of 275 (or something) that booked for $60 at the time. The Price sold for $23.50, the Vitters sold for $26.50.

 

2) Seller fees were increased. A lot of card buyers and sellers on ebay were upset. A LOT. It even got so far as an attempt to organize a boycott. You sell a card for $80, you're gonna pay $5-$10 in seller fees, not including the $3-$5 you spent setting it up to promote it (bold lettering, highlighted search result, etc). At least that's what happened to me.

 

3) Your expensive card of the next big prospect in the Mariners farm system or whatever, won't sell for crap. Yankees, Red Sox, Cubs. Players on these teams will always sell for more money and far more often than any other team's players. Prime example, that David Price vs. the Josh Vitters. Yankees and Red Sox cards are ridiculous. After Joba's amazing debut of 24 innings, his cards were some of the most valuable cards in Beckett price guides and THE most valuable cards on Ebay. East coast bias exists in the world of baseball card collecting as well. Naturally, Geovany Soto cards are a hot commodity, rightfully so

 

Those are my least favorite. Buying is good. But beware of fake patch cards.

 

If you want to sell, try that forum I linked to, I deal on there and not only is it a good place to gauge interest on cards, but you don't have to pay seller fees, which is big. Plus they have almost anything you could be looking for. If you want it, chances are someone's got it

Posted
If you collect cards, shop on eBay. Dont ever sell.

 

I was finding my uncle's old NFL cards for my father's christmas present, found all of them in a week - and an issue of Pro Football Magazine with him on the cover that no one in the family knew existed.

Then where should you sell to?

Oh, and if I'm you, I'm holding on to that card until Santo passes and ideally makes it into the HOF.

 

There's plenty of message boards you can deal on. The one I use is http://www.sportscardforum.com

 

There are several reasons not to sell on Ebay...

 

1) Unless it's a very high value card or a very popular player, there's no guarantee the card will sell for what you want it to sell for. I put two cards up on Ebay at the same time. One was a David Price autographed card numbered out of 50 (only 50 made) that booked for $100 at the time. I also had a Josh Vitters auto numbered out of 275 (or something) that booked for $60 at the time. The Price sold for $23.50, the Vitters sold for $26.50.

 

2) Seller fees were increased. A lot of card buyers and sellers on ebay were upset. A LOT. It even got so far as an attempt to organize a boycott. You sell a card for $80, you're gonna pay $5-$10 in seller fees, not including the $3-$5 you spent setting it up to promote it (bold lettering, highlighted search result, etc). At least that's what happened to me.

 

3) Your expensive card of the next big prospect in the Mariners farm system or whatever, won't sell for crap. Yankees, Red Sox, Cubs. Players on these teams will always sell for more money and far more often than any other team's players. Prime example, that David Price vs. the Josh Vitters. Yankees and Red Sox cards are ridiculous. After Joba's amazing debut of 24 innings, his cards were some of the most valuable cards in Beckett price guides and THE most valuable cards on Ebay. East coast bias exists in the world of baseball card collecting as well. Naturally, Geovany Soto cards are a hot commodity, rightfully so

 

Those are my least favorite. Buying is good. But beware of fake patch cards.

 

If you want to sell, try that forum I linked to, I deal on there and not only is it a good place to gauge interest on cards, but you don't have to pay seller fees, which is big. Plus they have almost anything you could be looking for. If you want it, chances are someone's got it

 

Correct. The fees are god awful(I'm #2 at a company that sells on eBay, were all too familiar with what theyre doing), and if you start something at .99 you have a good shot at it selling for that.

 

The card collecting hobby is definately not mainstream as of late, not many people are collecting - they're unloading.

 

I looked online when I had a bunch of NBA rookie cards (kidd, kobe, etc) and the prices they would go for on eBay were terrible versus websites. It's a good place to buy them though.

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If you collect cards, shop on eBay. Dont ever sell.

 

I was finding my uncle's old NFL cards for my father's christmas present, found all of them in a week - and an issue of Pro Football Magazine with him on the cover that no one in the family knew existed.

Then where should you sell to?

Oh, and if I'm you, I'm holding on to that card until Santo passes and ideally makes it into the HOF.

 

There's plenty of message boards you can deal on. The one I use is http://www.sportscardforum.com

 

There are several reasons not to sell on Ebay...

 

1) Unless it's a very high value card or a very popular player, there's no guarantee the card will sell for what you want it to sell for. I put two cards up on Ebay at the same time. One was a David Price autographed card numbered out of 50 (only 50 made) that booked for $100 at the time. I also had a Josh Vitters auto numbered out of 275 (or something) that booked for $60 at the time. The Price sold for $23.50, the Vitters sold for $26.50.

 

2) Seller fees were increased. A lot of card buyers and sellers on ebay were upset. A LOT. It even got so far as an attempt to organize a boycott. You sell a card for $80, you're gonna pay $5-$10 in seller fees, not including the $3-$5 you spent setting it up to promote it (bold lettering, highlighted search result, etc). At least that's what happened to me.

 

3) Your expensive card of the next big prospect in the Mariners farm system or whatever, won't sell for crap. Yankees, Red Sox, Cubs. Players on these teams will always sell for more money and far more often than any other team's players. Prime example, that David Price vs. the Josh Vitters. Yankees and Red Sox cards are ridiculous. After Joba's amazing debut of 24 innings, his cards were some of the most valuable cards in Beckett price guides and THE most valuable cards on Ebay. East coast bias exists in the world of baseball card collecting as well. Naturally, Geovany Soto cards are a hot commodity, rightfully so

 

Those are my least favorite. Buying is good. But beware of fake patch cards.

 

If you want to sell, try that forum I linked to, I deal on there and not only is it a good place to gauge interest on cards, but you don't have to pay seller fees, which is big. Plus they have almost anything you could be looking for. If you want it, chances are someone's got it

Thanks for the info. I've been out of the card-trading game for a long time. So just for the sake of clarification, if I have the next hot Ian Kennedy card, could I capitalize on the east coast bias and get an ebay bid price significantly over market/Beckett value? Or are you just saying that you'll get a fairer price if you have a large market team's prospect's card versus a small market one?

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I just recently got back into card collecting. I went through a span of about 2 years without really buying any cards or anything. The other day I went to the store and bought two packs of cards. In one pack I got an autographed rookie card of a catcher in the Braves system (Clint Sammons) and in the other pack I got a game-used jersey card of Travis Hafner. Not bad, IMO. First time I've pulled 2 autographed/memorabilia cards in one day.
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Thanks for the info. I've been out of the card-trading game for a long time. So just for the sake of clarification, if I have the next hot Ian Kennedy card, could I capitalize on the east coast bias and get an ebay bid price significantly over market/Beckett value? Or are you just saying that you'll get a fairer price if you have a large market team's prospect's card versus a small market one?

 

Well the thing is on a message board, you will almost always have to sell for a little less than half of the high book value, depending on the player and how much you'll charge for shipping. I recently sold a Jeff Samardzija Auto that booked for $30 for $14. A lot of people will also use Ebay as a guide for what cards are being bought for.

 

But Ian Kennedy.. his cards aren't really THAT big, but his cards would likely be bought by Yankee fans on Ebay. It also depends on the BV of the card. Say you have an Ian Kennedy card that books for $100. On Ebay it would probably sell somewhere between $40-$50. If you have a Joba Chamberlain card that books at $100, it will sell between $50-$60, and sometimes higher if some random card collecting novice really wants it.

 

Future reference, if you wind up pulling a printing plate of a player, which will be a 1 out of 1, don't get excited, they don't sell well unless it comes with an auto or if it's a good player.

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I just recently got back into card collecting. I went through a span of about 2 years without really buying any cards or anything. The other day I went to the store and bought two packs of cards. In one pack I got an autographed rookie card of a catcher in the Braves system (Clint Sammons) and in the other pack I got a game-used jersey card of Travis Hafner. Not bad, IMO. First time I've pulled 2 autographed/memorabilia cards in one day.

 

Those are always fun. The first jersey card I got was a korean dude whose name I forgot, but I was in awe at the jersey card, because when I stopped collecting they weren't invented yet, so I thought it was the coolest thing since sliced bread.

 

Jersey cards are a dime a dozen. I got dozens of them, virtually all commons and not worth any more than $8. The best memorabilia card I had was a Cal Ripken/Derek Jeter dual jersey card. Their cards, separately, are some of the highest valued cards and very sought after. This card was only worth $40. Jersey cards are awesome, but sadly not worth much. That Hafner probably isn't any more than $8

 

Here's a link to my photobucket (which hasn't been updated in a while) of some cards. If some of you haven't collected in a while and wonder what cards look like nowadays, check it out: http://s225.photobucket.com/albums/dd228/tkenm356/

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I just recently got back into card collecting. I went through a span of about 2 years without really buying any cards or anything. The other day I went to the store and bought two packs of cards. In one pack I got an autographed rookie card of a catcher in the Braves system (Clint Sammons) and in the other pack I got a game-used jersey card of Travis Hafner. Not bad, IMO. First time I've pulled 2 autographed/memorabilia cards in one day.

 

Those are always fun. The first jersey card I got was a korean dude whose name I forgot, but I was in awe at the jersey card, because when I stopped collecting they weren't invented yet, so I thought it was the coolest thing since sliced bread.

 

Jersey cards are a dime a dozen. I got dozens of them, virtually all commons and not worth any more than $8. The best memorabilia card I had was a Cal Ripken/Derek Jeter dual jersey card. Their cards, separately, are some of the highest valued cards and very sought after. This card was only worth $40. Jersey cards are awesome, but sadly not worth much. That Hafner probably isn't any more than $8

 

Here's a link to my photobucket (which hasn't been updated in a while) of some cards. If some of you haven't collected in a while and wonder what cards look like nowadays, check it out: http://s225.photobucket.com/albums/dd228/tkenm356/

Yeah, my best pull is a Nolan Ryan autographed/game-used jersey card. At last check it's worth $250 but remove the autograph and it's probably only worth like $10-$20.

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Well the thing is on a message board, you will almost always have to sell for a little less than half of the high book value, depending on the player and how much you'll charge for shipping.

 

So is it better to sell to brick-and-mortar stores instead? If not, where does the high book value come from?

Posted

Well the thing is on a message board, you will almost always have to sell for a little less than half of the high book value, depending on the player and how much you'll charge for shipping.

 

So is it better to sell to brick-and-mortar stores instead? If not, where does the high book value come from?

 

Book value esentially is Beckett. However, Beckett is not really highly regarded by devoted card collectors. So, while you could use beckett to help gage a price, most people will look to Ebay past sales for a more accurate price. Beckett claims to do a market analysis of some sort(with past Ebay sales included in that analysis), but recently they were caught putting cards up on Ebay themselves at listings which far exceeded their own pricings. This outraged many collectors and has further turned off collectors from Beckett. Although, even those colectors who do not like Beckett will sometimes admit to buying the magazine because they want to read the articles.

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Well the thing is on a message board, you will almost always have to sell for a little less than half of the high book value, depending on the player and how much you'll charge for shipping.

 

So is it better to sell to brick-and-mortar stores instead? If not, where does the high book value come from?

 

Book value esentially is Beckett. However, Beckett is not really highly regarded by devoted card collectors. So, while you could use beckett to help gage a price, most people will look to Ebay past sales for a more accurate price. Beckett claims to do a market analysis of some sort(with past Ebay sales included in that analysis), but recently they were caught putting cards up on Ebay themselves at listings which far exceeded their own pricings. This outraged many collectors and has further turned off collectors from Beckett. Although, even those colectors who do not like Beckett will sometimes admit to buying the magazine because they want to read the articles.

 

Just like Playboy.

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Well the thing is on a message board, you will almost always have to sell for a little less than half of the high book value, depending on the player and how much you'll charge for shipping.

 

So is it better to sell to brick-and-mortar stores instead? If not, where does the high book value come from?

 

Book value esentially is Beckett. However, Beckett is not really highly regarded by devoted card collectors. So, while you could use beckett to help gage a price, most people will look to Ebay past sales for a more accurate price. Beckett claims to do a market analysis of some sort(with past Ebay sales included in that analysis), but recently they were caught putting cards up on Ebay themselves at listings which far exceeded their own pricings. This outraged many collectors and has further turned off collectors from Beckett. Although, even those colectors who do not like Beckett will sometimes admit to buying the magazine because they want to read the articles.

 

Just like Playboy.

 

I was thinking that as I typed it. :lol:

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There's plenty of message boards you can deal on. The one I use is http://www.sportscardforum.com

 

There are several reasons not to sell on Ebay...

 

1) Unless it's a very high value card or a very popular player, there's no guarantee the card will sell for what you want it to sell for. I put two cards up on Ebay at the same time. One was a David Price autographed card numbered out of 50 (only 50 made) that booked for $100 at the time. I also had a Josh Vitters auto numbered out of 275 (or something) that booked for $60 at the time. The Price sold for $23.50, the Vitters sold for $26.50.

 

2) Seller fees were increased. A lot of card buyers and sellers on ebay were upset. A LOT. It even got so far as an attempt to organize a boycott. You sell a card for $80, you're gonna pay $5-$10 in seller fees, not including the $3-$5 you spent setting it up to promote it (bold lettering, highlighted search result, etc). At least that's what happened to me.

 

3) Your expensive card of the next big prospect in the Mariners farm system or whatever, won't sell for crap. Yankees, Red Sox, Cubs. Players on these teams will always sell for more money and far more often than any other team's players. Prime example, that David Price vs. the Josh Vitters. Yankees and Red Sox cards are ridiculous. After Joba's amazing debut of 24 innings, his cards were some of the most valuable cards in Beckett price guides and THE most valuable cards on Ebay. East coast bias exists in the world of baseball card collecting as well. Naturally, Geovany Soto cards are a hot commodity, rightfully so

 

Those are my least favorite. Buying is good. But beware of fake patch cards.

 

If you want to sell, try that forum I linked to, I deal on there and not only is it a good place to gauge interest on cards, but you don't have to pay seller fees, which is big. Plus they have almost anything you could be looking for. If you want it, chances are someone's got it

Folks get rich all the time exploiting market efficiencies.

 

Sounds to me like a person could do pretty well buying the Mariner cards on eBay and reselling them on sportscardforum.com, and buying Yankee/RedSox/Cub product on sportscardforum.com and reselling it on eBay.

 

Heck you could even create eBay listings for cards you don't actually possess (a Soto or an Ellsbury or whatever), but knew you could source quickly and easily for a given price, with the opening bid set X% over your cost. If a bid comes in, then you go get the card, even probably even before the auction ends.

 

Of course, I'm sure this business model has been examined already. :P

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a while back, some friends of mine were really heavy into baseball cards... they might still be. anyway, some of the stuff was cool, so i'd go to shows with them occasionally and i ordered some stuff off ebay.

 

I just dug up the box and it's a smorgasbord of Cubs disasters. A bunch of Prior jersey cards and rookie cards. Some Bobby Hill card, some kerry wood cards including a bat card (????), a bunch of sosa jersey cards and the coup de grace, an autographed jersey rookie card of corey patterson.

Posted
There's plenty of message boards you can deal on. The one I use is http://www.sportscardforum.com

 

There are several reasons not to sell on Ebay...

 

1) Unless it's a very high value card or a very popular player, there's no guarantee the card will sell for what you want it to sell for. I put two cards up on Ebay at the same time. One was a David Price autographed card numbered out of 50 (only 50 made) that booked for $100 at the time. I also had a Josh Vitters auto numbered out of 275 (or something) that booked for $60 at the time. The Price sold for $23.50, the Vitters sold for $26.50.

 

2) Seller fees were increased. A lot of card buyers and sellers on ebay were upset. A LOT. It even got so far as an attempt to organize a boycott. You sell a card for $80, you're gonna pay $5-$10 in seller fees, not including the $3-$5 you spent setting it up to promote it (bold lettering, highlighted search result, etc). At least that's what happened to me.

 

3) Your expensive card of the next big prospect in the Mariners farm system or whatever, won't sell for crap. Yankees, Red Sox, Cubs. Players on these teams will always sell for more money and far more often than any other team's players. Prime example, that David Price vs. the Josh Vitters. Yankees and Red Sox cards are ridiculous. After Joba's amazing debut of 24 innings, his cards were some of the most valuable cards in Beckett price guides and THE most valuable cards on Ebay. East coast bias exists in the world of baseball card collecting as well. Naturally, Geovany Soto cards are a hot commodity, rightfully so

 

Those are my least favorite. Buying is good. But beware of fake patch cards.

 

If you want to sell, try that forum I linked to, I deal on there and not only is it a good place to gauge interest on cards, but you don't have to pay seller fees, which is big. Plus they have almost anything you could be looking for. If you want it, chances are someone's got it

Folks get rich all the time exploiting market efficiencies.

 

Sounds to me like a person could do pretty well buying the Mariner cards on eBay and reselling them on sportscardforum.com, and buying Yankee/RedSox/Cub product on sportscardforum.com and reselling it on eBay.

 

Heck you could even create eBay listings for cards you don't actually possess (a Soto or an Ellsbury or whatever), but knew you could source quickly and easily for a given price, with the opening bid set X% over your cost. If a bid comes in, then you go get the card, even probably even before the auction ends.

 

Of course, I'm sure this business model has been examined already. :P

 

Problem is, it only takes once or twice of getting the rug pulled out from under you to get booted off eBay. It's against their TOS to sell things you don't own - so if something gets a bid, and you go to purchase, and it's gone - Youd better hope you have time to cancel the listing or you're going to wind up with negative feedback, and likely a report. Then there is always relying on a 3rd parties ship-time, as it reflects on you. Bear in mind that after ebay and paypal fees, you would likely need to be picking up at least $6-10 in gross profit to make even a couple bucks - and then you have to decide how much trouble $3-4 is worth to you.

 

We do lots of drop-shipping from other locations - and other people's errors quickly leave you in a bad spot.

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a while back, some friends of mine were really heavy into baseball cards... they might still be. anyway, some of the stuff was cool, so i'd go to shows with them occasionally and i ordered some stuff off ebay.

 

I just dug up the box and it's a smorgasbord of Cubs disasters. A bunch of Prior jersey cards and rookie cards. Some Bobby Hill card, some kerry wood cards including a bat card (????), a bunch of sosa jersey cards and the coup de grace, an autographed jersey rookie card of corey patterson.

 

 

On the Beckett message boards, there is a guy heavily invested in Tyler Colvin. By heavily invested, probably a couple thousand dollars or so. Your story would make him sad. I just want to shook my head when I read his posts about Tyler Colvin.

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a while back, some friends of mine were really heavy into baseball cards... they might still be. anyway, some of the stuff was cool, so i'd go to shows with them occasionally and i ordered some stuff off ebay.

 

I just dug up the box and it's a smorgasbord of Cubs disasters. A bunch of Prior jersey cards and rookie cards. Some Bobby Hill card, some kerry wood cards including a bat card (????), a bunch of sosa jersey cards and the coup de grace, an autographed jersey rookie card of corey patterson.

 

haha we probably have the same kerry wood bat card.

 

i also have a roosevelt brown auto. pretty awesome.

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