Minor League Discussion & Boxes 7-18-2008

[Outshined_One]

Box Scores:

 

Iowa won 8-1 Box Score

 

CF F. Pie 2/5, R, 2 RBI, HR (7)

3B C. McGehee 0/4, BB, K

1B J. Dubois 2/5, R, K

RF J. Kroeger 1/3, 2 BB, 3 R, 2B (22)

SP M. Atkins 7 IP, 2 H, 1 ER, 3/1 K/BB, 7-10 GO-FO

RP M. Wuertz 1 scoreless, 1 H, 1/0 K/BB, 2-0 GO-FO

 

Tennessee lost 6-4 Box Score

 

SS M. Camp 1/5, R, K

CF T. Colvin 1/5, RBI, K

LF J. Fox 2/4, R, K

RF D. Deeds 3/4, R, 3 RBI, 2B (24), HR (8)

3B J. Lansford 0/4, K, E (6, fielding)

SP J. Russell 2.2 IP, 7 H, 5 ER, 0/1 K/BB, 4-3 GO-FO

RP C. Lambert 1 perfect, 1/0 K/BB, 2-0 GO-FO

 

Daytona lost 10-4 Box Score

 

2B T. Thomas 1/3, BB, R, SB (16), HBP

LF T. Wright 1/4, BB, R, 2B (13)

1B S. Clevenger 2/5, R, 2B (9), 2 K

DH M. Smith 1/3, RBI, 2B (3), K, HBP

RF R. Harvey 0/4, 2 K

3B J. Mota 0/4

SS D. Barney 1/4, E (13, fielding)

SP R. Hill 4.1 IP, 6 H, 6 R, 5 ER, 6/3 K/BB, 3-4 GO-FO

RP J. Papelbon 2 scoreless, 1 H, 2/1 K/BB, 3-1 GO-FO

 

Peoria won 6-3 Box Score

 

SS N. Samson 2/3, BB, R, RBI, CS (8)

CF J. Wyatt 1/3, BB, 2 R

3B J. Rosa 2/4, 4 RBI, 2 2B (30), 2 K

1B R. Ridling 0/4, 2 K

LF E. Lara 2/4, 2 R, 2B (5)

RF C. Andersen 0/3, 2 K

C L. Flores 0/3, RBI

2B J. Opitz 1/3, R, E (1, fielding)

SP J. Castillo 6 scoreless, 5 H, 2/1 K/BB, 9-7 GO-FO

RP J. Latham 1 IP, 3 H, 2 R, 1 ER, 0/1 K/BB, 2-1 GO-FO

 

Boise won 4-2 Box Score

 

2B J. Harrison 1/4, BB, RBI, K

DH D. Macias 0/3, BB, R, 2 K, HBP

3B J. Vitters 2/4, R, K, CS (2), E (5, fielding)

1B R. Keedy 0/1, 2 BB, RBI, K, CS (2)

LF D. Rundle 0/4, 4 K (ole!)

C M. Brenley 1/3, BB, K, PB (1)

SS M. Gonzalez 1/3, BB, R, K, SB (8)

RF K. Burke 0/3, BB, 2 K

CF K. Calvert 1/4, R, K, Assist (Home)

SP C. Carpenter 1.2 IP, 3 H, 1 ER, 1/1 K/BB, HBP, 3-1 GO-FO

RP C. Coleman 4.1 IP, 7 H, 1 ER, 2/1 K/BB, HR, 6-4 GO-FO

RP B. O'Donnell 2 hitless/scoreless, 2/1 K/BB, HBP, 4-0 GO-FO

 

AZL Cubs won 12-4, Box Score:

 

DH M. Cerda 1/3, 2 R, BB

LF J. Jones 2/5, 2 R, HR (3), 3 RBI, K

3B J. Contreras 5/5, 3 R, 2B (7), 2 HR (7), 4 RBI - wow :shock:

RF N. Perez 1/5, R, K

SS J. Lake 2/4, R, RBI, E (8, fielding)

CF K. Soto 1/4, R, 2B (2), 2 RBI

SP J. Antigua 4 IP, 3 H, 1 ER, 1 BB, 1 K, 1 HR, 10 GO-0 FO - that's a lot of ground balls

RP O. Martinez 2 IP, 2 H, 1 ER, 0 BB, 1 K, 3 GO-2 FO

RP M. Sierra 3 IP, 3 H, 2 ER, 0 BB, 0 K, 1 HR, 3 GO-6 FO

 

DSL Cubs 1 lost 8-5 Box Score

 

DSL Cubs 2 won 4-0 Box Score

 

RF J. Morelli 1/3, RBI, BB - 18 years old

SP R. Garcia 5.2 IP, 5 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 7 K, 4 GO-5 FO - 16 years old

 

OVERALL: 5-3

 

MLBAAP at Gold Coast, Queensland:

 

Kangaroos won 12-7, Box Score:

 

RF S. Williams 2/4, R, HR (1), RBI

RP C. Hams 1 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 3 K

[ctcf]

Give me Rich Hill dammit.

[RammyFanny]

Is it wrong to get a little excited about Rundle?

 

Seems like it's coming together for him, great game yesterday and now has a 1.072 OPS and slugging .659 though obviously only in 12 games. Maybe just wishful thinking.

[Guest]

Probable Starters:

 

Iowa: RHP Mitch Atkins (Iowa & Tenn: 10-6, 3.72 ERA, 116 IP, 92 K/30 BB)

Tennessee: LHP James Russell (Tenn & Daytona: 5-5, 4.08 ERA, 99.1 IP, 63 K/27 BB)

Daytona: LHP Rich Hill (Mesa & Iowa: 3-5, 5.09 ERA, 35.1 IP, 43 K/33 BB)

Peoria: RHP Julio Castillo (at Peoria: 0-1, 1.76 ERA, 15.1 IP, 7 K/6 BB)

Boise: RHP Chris Carpenter (Mesa: 0-0, 18.00 ERA, 1 IP, 1 K/1 BB)

Mesa: LHP Jeffry Antigua (1-2, 4.38 ERA, 12.1 IP, 10 K/5 BB) & RHP Miguel Sierra (1-0, 4.15 ERA, 17.1 IP, 9 K/6 BB)

 

You have to think Cashner and Shafer will make their Mesa debuts soon.

[Guest]

Is it wrong to get a little excited about Rundle?

 

Seems like it's coming together for him, great game yesterday and now has a 1.072 OPS and slugging .659 though obviously only in 12 games. Maybe just wishful thinking.

 

It's very encouraging. Just as important is that the walks are up and the strikeouts are down. Right now at Boise, he has 5 BB and 9 K through 41 at bats at Boise (walks 12% of the time, Ks 22% of the time). He struck out 33% of the time earlier this year in Peoria and walked just 9% of the time there (22 K, 6 BB in 67 AB). Last season in Boise, he struck out 61 times in 166 AB last season (37%) though the walk rate was as high as it is now (21 in 166 AB about 12.6%).

 

But yeah, it's only 41 at bats and he is repeating Boise. He is still 20.

[Guest]

LHP Michael Bunton cut, LHP Luke Sommer added to Boise from Mesa (he pitched yesterday for the Hawks).

[Guest]

Jeffry Antigua does get the start for Mesa.

[craig]

Question for Cal or anybody who might know: Caridad, the Dominican we signed from japan, has a good arm and OK walk control (although he lacks the breaking stuff for K-ball.) As I passed on from a report from two starts ago, he has a good arm, that at least on his best day clocks at 94-95 (and there has been talk that the Tennessee gun is slow, if anything.) On the Tennesse site, and I believe on the Cubs non-roster-invites site for spring training, he lists with a 1985 birthday. At age 22, with a good arm, and seemingly improving stuff as the year has progressed, and with the makings of an interesting changeup and breaking ball, he looks like a pretty interesting development project. First year in the American pros, good arm, and he's already doing better in AA than in A, that's a good trajectory with time to refine it all.

 

But BBCube and minorleague baseball list him with a 1983 birthday. As a guy who'll turn 25 this October, he doesn't look nearly so interesting.

 

Anybody know which it really is, or is more likely to be?

 

I'm mixed. The optimist says that he's pretty raw, the Cubs might not have paid him to sign as a 24-year-old, and the Cubs might be more likely to get the dates right. And given how little pro experience he has, why would a guy who can throw 95 go unsigned well into his 20's?

 

The negativist says that in past whenever there have been age issues, the older ages have always been more correct. Why would anybody fraud to get older, when he's starting in his 20's either way? And as a slim under 6-footer, perhaps he wasn't much of a pro prospect as a teenager. So maybe he didn't sign until in his 20's, and then by a Japanese team, because by then he was too old to interest American teams, and back when he was a teenager he was throwing 86 with no breaking ball.

 

Anyway, if anybody knows anything about which is right or wrong, I'd love to know. I'd sure like to be assured that he's really 22, and a prospect, not 24.

[Guest]

He's also listed as a born in 1985 on CBS Sportsline's web site. BA and BR have him as 1983. The Hiroshima Carp have him as 1983. Scout/Inside the Ivy has him as 1985.

 

I trust the Hiroshima Carp over the others since he played for them and probably had to get documents that proved his DOB info to play in Japan.

[craig]

I think it's probably wrong to get excited about Rundle. Even with his hot streak, he's hitting only .221 on the season, and he's only recently gotten past the .300-mark for OBP. Guys who whiff so much, that scouts to me like a hole in his swing or a hole in his vision. Even in his career-fortnight at Boise, his 3rd pro year, he's still whiffing almost a quarter of the time. Weird things can happen, I understand that. But I think he's cooked.

 

Another age question: Nelson "Neifi" Perez lists at 20 on minorleague baseball. I thought I'd read somewhere that he was 22. Am I misremembering and crazy? If he's really "only" 20, that combined with the enormous progress that he's made this year from last year makes him at least mildly interesting. 21% K-rate is still lousy, and 16K/1BB suggest some serious problems. But 21% K-rate is huge improvement over last year (30%), and the fact that he's "only" K-ing 21% despite obviously hacking rather indiscriminately (based on the one walk in 76 AB) might suggest that he actually does have some native ability to put his bat on the ball is he can reach it. Obviously having 17 or 28 hits be either HR's or XBH also speaks to some power, and he's got the power arm. Would sure be weird if he ended up actually being a prospect. At age 20, slim possiblity. At 22, much harder.

[Guest]

Yes, Nelson Perez is 20. That one I'm sure about. He was signed as a 19 year old UDFA before last AZL season.

[Guest]

Geez, Mesa's offense is ridiculous. They dropped an 8 spot on the AZL Angels in the 2nd inning, highlighted by a Kevin Soto 2-RBI double and a Jericho Jones 3-run HR. Everyone but Hoorelbeke scored in the 2nd inning.

 

All 9 of the batters Jeffry Antigua has retired have been via the groundout - 3 IP, 1 H, 1 ER, 1 BB, 0 K, 1 HR, 9 GO-0 FO.

[Guest]

John Contreras is another interesting guy, I don't know what to think about him. He's way too old for the AZL...22 years old...and he only OPSed .760 in the DSL last season at age 21. But he's pounding the hell out of the ball. His SLG at this point (after going 3/3 with a double through 3 innings) is .743 and he's got better patience than the other monster slugger for Mesa, Nelson Perez.

 

I don't know what to think of Mesa's stats period when their offense is so good. Maybe these older guys like Perez and Hoorelbeke and Contreras are taking advantage of the primarily teenage pitchers in Mesa and aren't worth a second thought.

[Brian]

Jericho Jones

[Guest]

John Contreras is another interesting guy, I don't know what to think about him. He's way too old for the AZL...22 years old...and he only OPSed .760 in the DSL last season at age 21. But he's pounding the hell out of the ball. His SLG at this point (after going 3/3 with a double through 3 innings) is .743 and he's got better patience than the other monster slugger for Mesa, Nelson Perez.

 

I don't know what to think of Mesa's stats period when their offense is so good. Maybe these older guys like Perez and Hoorelbeke and Contreras are taking advantage of the primarily teenage pitchers in Mesa and aren't worth a second thought.

 

Yeah, I'm thinking it's all down hill from here for John: 5 for 5, a double and 2 homers.

[Guest]

John Contreras (76 at bats in the AZL at age 22): .395/.435/.816/1.251

[Guest]

Weather: 85 degrees, cloudy.

 

Rich Hill and Daytona getting ready to get started.

[imb]

Weather: 85 degrees, cloudy.

 

Rich Hill and Daytona getting ready to get started.

 

 

Oh snap, i almost forgot

 

please do well rich

[Guest]

Fort Myers Top 1st

 

Juan Portes called out on strikes.

Daniel Berg flies out to center fielder James Adduci.

Edward Ovalle called out on strikes.

 

1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 2 K, 0 GO-1 FO

 

So far so good!

[Guest]

Hill's 2nd:

 

Wilson Ramos walks.

With Eli Tintor batting, passed ball by Robinson Chirinos, Wilson Ramos to 2nd.

Eli Tintor strikes out swinging.

Steven Singleton strikes out swinging.

Garrett Olson singles on a line drive to center fielder James Adduci. Wilson Ramos scores.

With Yangervis Solarte batting, Garrett Olson steals (3) 2nd base. <-- Clevenger dropped a pickoff, Hill had got the runner.

Yangervis Solarte flies out to right fielder Ryan Harvey.

 

2 IP, 1 H, 1 ER, 1 BB, 4 K, 0 GO-2 FO for Rich.

[imb]

Hill's 2nd:

 

Wilson Ramos walks.

With Eli Tintor batting, passed ball by Robinson Chirinos, Wilson Ramos to 2nd.

Eli Tintor strikes out swinging.

Steven Singleton strikes out swinging.

Garrett Olson singles on a line drive to center fielder James Adduci. Wilson Ramos scores.

With Yangervis Solarte batting, Garrett Olson steals (3) 2nd base. <-- Clevenger dropped a pickoff, Hill had got the runner.

Yangervis Solarte flies out to right fielder Ryan Harvey.

 

2 IP, 1 H, 1 ER, 1 BB, 4 K, 0 GO-2 FO for Rich.

 

BB-passed ball combo had me sweating

[Guest]

Hill's 3rd:

 

K

K (on a "FILTHY curve")

Ground out.

 

3 IP, 1 H, 1 ER, 1 BB, 6 K, 1 GO-2 FO

[Guest]

Hill's 2nd:

 

Wilson Ramos walks.

With Eli Tintor batting, passed ball by Robinson Chirinos, Wilson Ramos to 2nd.

Eli Tintor strikes out swinging.

Steven Singleton strikes out swinging.

Garrett Olson singles on a line drive to center fielder James Adduci. Wilson Ramos scores.

With Yangervis Solarte batting, Garrett Olson steals (3) 2nd base. <-- Clevenger dropped a pickoff, Hill had got the runner.

Yangervis Solarte flies out to right fielder Ryan Harvey.

 

2 IP, 1 H, 1 ER, 1 BB, 4 K, 0 GO-2 FO for Rich.

 

BB-passed ball combo had me sweating

 

Both balls 3 and 4 on the walk were pitches that "didn't miss by much." Hill's catcher has been catching for less than a month. No worries, esp. after his 3rd!

[Butterscup1679666578]

Any idea how long Rich is supposed to go tonight?

[Jon]

Hopefully he'll break 90 pitches.

 

Fort Myers Top 3rd

 

* Danny Santiesteban strikes out swinging.

* Juan Portes strikes out swinging.

* Daniel Berg grounds out, shortstop Darwin Barney to first baseman Steve Clevenger.